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Nintendo E3 coverage: Project Cafe time?
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article published on 7 June, 2011
Nintendo had arguably the best E3 keynote of the major gaming companies, unveiling the Wii U console and a plethora of Nintendo 3DS games, all of which should be released by the end of the year.
Nintendo 3DS
The gaming company confirmed the availability of the 3DS eShop and web browser. As a free gift to all gamers, the company is giving away Pokedex 3D and a 3D version of ExciteBike.
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DarkKingX
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8. June 2011 @ 06:02 |
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Originally posted by POGK:
I haven't followed much on Project Cafe but to me it looks like the remote will double as a portable gaming system. Think about it, play at home, continue playing on the way to work, lunch, etc. THAT would truly be innovative. An all in one solution. Now only if they can produce good games that people would WANT to continuously play...
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DarkKingX
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8. June 2011 @ 06:08 |
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
since wiiu play wii1 games, I wonder if it still can play gamecube games and finally play dvd movies.
Buy a DVD player! I hope it doesn't, since that I'll probably just cost more for a GAMING system... besides, just get Netflix, and stream it, if you really want to use your console for that!
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emugamer
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8. June 2011 @ 06:29 |
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I'm excited for this. The price of the PS3 was a shock to me and it took me 2 years to want to part with over $400 for a console. Now, almost 4 years later, I know what to expect in terms of price and will be ready to fork over money in the same price range. I will need to see all the specs and what release titles will be available, but I think I will definitely be getting one. I'm tired of Sony and their firmware double-talk.
Originally posted by DarkKingX:
Buy a DVD player! I hope it doesn't, since that I'll probably just cost more for a GAMING system... besides, just get Netflix, and stream it, if you really want to use your console for that!
This should be able to play blu rays, DVD's and stream netflix. It should be a full entertainment unit. Just my opinion. I don't want to have 5 devices connected to my TV, and if Nintendo was smart, they would package this as an all-in-one device. This one device would have the potential to replace someones Wii (BWC), blu ray player, netflix box and NMT, as well as stream media from a home network. Nintendo should capitalize on Sony's "it only does everything" fail campaign as being the console that truly "only does everything."
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8. June 2011 @ 10:38 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by nonoitall:
Nintendo made it a point to explain that the console and games would be backwards-compatible with the old Wii controllers as well. The overall impression I got was that the 'tablet' controller is designed to supplement existing control methods, not outright replace them.
That is interesting...not sure how they would do that...do you have to swing the LCD screen around like an idiot? How do you do the touchscreen functions with a WiiMote? Does this new controller have a port for connecting traditional gamepads like the WiiMode does? Can you stand on the LCD like you can on the Wii Balance Board? If they truly are backwards compatible, it will either be a tour de force in creativity, or the touchscreen will be completely pointless.
Not exactly...in one of the presentations for zelda, the LCD screen plays an essential role. IF your looking at island on your TV and you move the controller's LCD to the left or right you can see other islands or items that you don't see on your TV. Its actually utilizing the controller this time around. I didn't watch the video up here but if you saw it already, my bad for repeating what you already know. Personally, it's time to do away with balance boards and weird add-ons like the zapper like that. Motion sensors should be more like the kinect, where you buy one product not several for several games.
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Interestx
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8. June 2011 @ 11:27 |
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As the Wii has proved you don't need vast amounts of 'power' to win a massive audience.
It'll be interesting to see how this stacks up against the current gen when it appears.
With 1080p the res limit on TVs now that's going to flatten out the differences between consoles in a major way I'd expect so video calls, netflix and those added functions are going to be prime.
I wonder if 2012 will see the other 2 announce their latest for 2013?
That would be about right if the 10yrs 'life-cycle' is going to be accurate (including the overlapping tail).
With 50million+ PS3s & Xbox 360s out there it'll be like PS2 all over again, loads of potential customers out there for a long time to come for 3rd party devs (and the occasional 1st party game) to keep working on selling to.
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Mysttic
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8. June 2011 @ 11:57 |
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At first I was really excited for the concept; blown away really. But the more I read up on it, especially after people used it on the floor at E3 - I determined its really going to come down to specs of the controller.
My first concern is apparently the resolution isn't all that great on the controller, so how will that affect playing your games on it? The new Wii is without a doubt an HD console now, there is no way that screen on the controller can support 1080p viewing, and Nintendo definitely focused on their E3 showing that ability to continue playing your game if someone else in your household needs control of the TV.
My second concern is the fact that the hardware on the console really only caught up to this generation of consoles specs. What MS and Sony bring out in the next 2-3 years will likely make Nintendo look like a joke.
My third issue is range on the controller. Because its using the same technology as the wii-controllers, it's going to be very limited on how far you can be away from the wii. Using analog signals to the wii is just ouch.. Will I be able to say take my game with me from living room to kitchen without losing signal and what happens when it does drop signal?
If Nintendo wanted to impress more they should have made the controller have the screen an HD of at least 720p and make it independent from the Wii itself. It does have some nice gimicktry to it, but that's nothing more than software coding to make the device do all it can. As IGN pointed out, technically the NGP *I refuse to call it Vita* could do the same thing to PS3s and likely do it better.
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emugamer
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8. June 2011 @ 12:05 |
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I really don't think Nintendo proved anything other than the fact that they had good foresight at the time to realize that HD had not penetrated the masses yet. They released a cheaper product with a minor innovation and marketed the hell out of it as a casual device for the whole family. As of recently, they finally admitted that they had nowhere else to go and were tapped out of ideas for the Wii. I think their new machine will hold up well. The PS3 and 360 have gone through a large part of their life cycle. If Nintendo does this right, they can grab a lot of customers who want to see what's next and fresh. It seems like it will definitely appeal to a lot of gamers, including the casual ones who bought into the Wii in the first place.
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8. June 2011 @ 12:21 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
I really don't think Nintendo proved anything other than the fact that they had good foresight at the time to realize that HD had not penetrated the masses yet. They released a cheaper product with a minor innovation and marketed the hell out of it as a casual device for the whole family. As of recently, they finally admitted that they had nowhere else to go and were tapped out of ideas for the Wii. I think their new machine will hold up well. The PS3 and 360 have gone through a large part of their life cycle. If Nintendo does this right, they can grab a lot of customers who want to see what's next and fresh. It seems like it will definitely appeal to a lot of gamers, including the casual ones who bought into the Wii in the first place.
Not sure I would call the Wii motion control system a minor innovation. While many developers used it as a gimmick it opened the door for Microsoft and Sony to do something with motion gaming. They may have been thinking about it before Nintendo did it but still.
To me Nintendo has always been an innovator in the gaming arena and tend to think outside the box.
I think this comic holds a bit of truth to what I am saying.
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20110608
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Mysttic
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8. June 2011 @ 13:03 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by emugamer:
I really don't think Nintendo proved anything other than the fact that they had good foresight at the time to realize that HD had not penetrated the masses yet. They released a cheaper product with a minor innovation and marketed the hell out of it as a casual device for the whole family. As of recently, they finally admitted that they had nowhere else to go and were tapped out of ideas for the Wii. I think their new machine will hold up well. The PS3 and 360 have gone through a large part of their life cycle. If Nintendo does this right, they can grab a lot of customers who want to see what's next and fresh. It seems like it will definitely appeal to a lot of gamers, including the casual ones who bought into the Wii in the first place.
Not sure I would call the Wii motion control system a minor innovation. While many developers used it as a gimmick it opened the door for Microsoft and Sony to do something with motion gaming. They may have been thinking about it before Nintendo did it but still.
To me Nintendo has always been an innovator in the gaming arena and tend to think outside the box.
I think this comic holds a bit of truth to what I am saying.
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20110608
I agree, Nintendo was the first to put out motion control system for consoles, and showed the world how a handheld is done right more than once; making Nintendo a key innovator for gaming technology. Just because its innovative tho, doesn't always mean its great; *cough Virtual Boy*. But if it wasn't for Wii, and Nintendo proving there is a mass market for gimmicks, than MS and Sony would not have moved onto gimmick based control schemes.
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Interestx
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8. June 2011 @ 14:02 |
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One thing I hope catches on for the next gen is the backward compatibility.
I think it's great that this Wii U is designed to also pley Gamecube & Wii games.
Hopefully that kind of b/c is going to be true of the next Xbox & PS.
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8. June 2011 @ 16:43 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
One thing I hope catches on for the next gen is the backward compatibility.
I think it's great that this Wii U is designed to also pley Gamecube & Wii games.
Hopefully that kind of b/c is going to be true of the next Xbox & PS.
It is rumored (so take this with a grain of salt) that the PS4 is not gonna follow the usual Sony type of next generation console as the previous 3 were (i.e. CD/3D -> CD/DVD/EE Tech -> CD/DVD/BD/HDD/WiFi/BT/RSX & Cell Tech etc). But more like a Super Enhanced PS3 with more Cell/GPU/Ram which would lead one to believe BC should be quite easy, and even PS2 as the shear power it would have could emulate it without having to include physical EE hardware.
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brockie
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8. June 2011 @ 17:54 |
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can you imagine how sick you will feel as well being distracted by a screen on the controller why your trying to play on you big TV. plus do we really need to have a screen on the floor showing you a golf ball & the videos they showed were of MS/PS3 games.
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voyager
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11. June 2011 @ 10:52 |
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Really awesome ,but is not for me.
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Gnawnivek
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11. June 2011 @ 23:01 |
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Originally posted by GGPWN:
Legend of Zelda in awesome graphics, what more could you want?
Online ID? Meeting friends to gloat the progress? Unlocking the game 100% and want to know the other gamers have the same accomplishments?
Peace!
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Gnawnivek
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11. June 2011 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by POGK:
Originally posted by Oner:
Reggie Fils-Aime said in the E3 event numerous times that it is NOT portable.
Well, it would be REALLY cool if it was. Almost the right next step.
Almost the right next TWO steps... In order to make the tablet-ish controller to stream console games, you'll need some sort of online service (not that it can't be done, but it will be awkward without the online part). The Xbox got Live, PS3 got PSN, what does Nintendo have?
Peace!
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12. June 2011 @ 00:17 |
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OOOO, but will it work (the controller) with my existing wii or am i expected to buy the new set?
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12. June 2011 @ 01:26 |
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Originally posted by jimmurray:
OOOO, but will it work (the controller) with my existing wii or am i expected to buy the new set?
The new controller will not work on the old console (at least AFAIK), but the old controller will work on the new console.
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jimmurray
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12. June 2011 @ 01:36 |
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now all they have to do is set it up via att or verizon or both and really let the wireless fun begin.
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13. June 2011 @ 13:42 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by jimmurray:
OOOO, but will it work (the controller) with my existing wii or am i expected to buy the new set?
The new controller will not work on the old console (at least AFAIK), but the old controller will work on the new console.
This comment is 100% wrong. The controller DOES work with the Wii and that is what they were showing at the conference. Please get your facts straight before telling someone something incorrect. Thanks
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13. June 2011 @ 19:10 |
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Originally posted by Bigwillyz:
Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by jimmurray:
OOOO, but will it work (the controller) with my existing wii or am i expected to buy the new set?
The new controller will not work on the old console (at least AFAIK), but the old controller will work on the new console.
This comment is 100% wrong. The controller DOES work with the Wii and that is what they were showing at the conference. Please get your facts straight before telling someone something incorrect. Thanks
When in the presentation did they demonstrate the new controller working on the old Wii? (By the way, my comment was not 100% wrong; I said as far as I know the new controller does not work on the old console. My comment allowed for the possibility that my knowledge was incomplete. In addition, Nintendo did explain that the old controllers work on the new console, so at worst my comment would be 50% wrong.)
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14. June 2011 @ 01:41 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by Bigwillyz:
Originally posted by nonoitall:
Originally posted by jimmurray:
OOOO, but will it work (the controller) with my existing wii or am i expected to buy the new set?
The new controller will not work on the old console (at least AFAIK), but the old controller will work on the new console.
This comment is 100% wrong. The controller DOES work with the Wii and that is what they were showing at the conference. Please get your facts straight before telling someone something incorrect. Thanks
When in the presentation did they demonstrate the new controller working on the old Wii? (By the way, my comment was not 100% wrong; I said as far as I know the new controller does not work on the old console. My comment allowed for the possibility that my knowledge was incomplete. In addition, Nintendo did explain that the old controllers work on the new console, so at worst my comment would be 50% wrong.)
Fair enough. The whole show of the Wii U was on a regular Wii. The new console was not announced.
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14. June 2011 @ 02:03 |
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The new console was not announced...? :-S
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Bigwillyz
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14. June 2011 @ 16:45 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
The new console was not announced...? :-S
No it wasn't, all this info floating around on the net is hearsay. I don't know where all these specs came from but I know it did not come from Nintendo as they have yet to announce the system. Yes the new controller is going to be for the new system and work with the older Wiis but the new console has yet to be seen. The only thing I can confirm is a 25GB capacity disk(Supposedly Blue-Ray) that they are going to be using for games.
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14. June 2011 @ 17:17 |
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Originally posted by Bigwillyz:
The new console was not announced.
Originally posted by nonoitall:
The new console was not announced...? :-S
Originally posted by Bigwillyz:
No it wasn't, all this info floating around on the net is hearsay.
Dude, really? the WiiU is the new console, it's announced, it's happening.
Yes, they made much more of a big deal about the controller, but it was the console that was announced. The videos of the presentation all refer to the "New Controller" and that was my only complaint, they should of gave the controller a name instead of calling it "New Controller" or simply called it the "WiiU Controller" otherwise confusion like this will happen.
And yes, I know they did not release any specs for the WiiU console, but that's half the fun of waiting for an upcoming console is to piece together info and rumors and try to figure out it's specs. AfterDawn had an article doing just that about a week or so before this one... (link)
chill,
Jam out.
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14. June 2011 @ 17:17 |
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Originally posted by Bigwillyz:
No it wasn't, all this info floating around on the net is hearsay. I don't know where all these specs came from but I know it did not come from Nintendo as they have yet to announce the system. Yes the new controller is going to be for the new system and work with the older Wiis but the new console has yet to be seen. The only thing I can confirm is a 25GB capacity disk(Supposedly Blue-Ray) that they are going to be using for games.
In that case, wouldn't the console have been announced, but just not seen yet? (But I remember them having mockups of the new system that visitors could demo - not necessarily final products, but not necessarily old systems either.)
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