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Will Microsoft ride in as white knight to save Winamp from its imminent demise?

article published on 21 November, 2013

Yesterday we reported that popular media player Winamp was being shutdown by its owner AOL at the end of December. The outpour of support for the software was great, and a petition on Change.org reached nearly 6000 signatures overnight to save the media player or at least make it open source. While many were sad the software was to be shut down, there may be an unlikely white knight; Microsoft. ... [ read the full article ]

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24. November 2013 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup: MusicBee is the man!

P.S.
Winamp as a good chance to be an open source, since AOL already did open source of Wasabi (10yrs. ago) with the Z-lib (BSD-style); and they could open source more code.

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Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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24. November 2013 @ 20:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have a good one Chappy, here's hoping you taste the sweet mead of victory instead of the ashes of defeat today.

Asus Xonar Essence STX hey! ...so that's worth it?



Since we are on the subject of players... The latest VLC v2.1 (and above) is failing to pass-thru digital!!!!!

Something has happened and I guess I'll have to head to their forums to find out what it is. :/

I had to go back to VLC v2.0.8 to get back the "A/32 over S/PDIF" option which you need to select if you want to pass DD5.1 etc. over coax/toslink/hdmi to your receiver: Audio> Audio Devices> S/PDIF






Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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Zilog Z80 CPU, 32KB RAM (16K+16K cartridge), video processor 6847, 2KB video RAM, 16 colours (text mode), 5.25" FDD
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25. November 2013 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK guys, it's a damn good thing that I'm typing this as I have nothing left for a voice today, I don't think "Insane" is a big enough adjective for what happened here last night.
Riders just went to work and did what this team was built to do, win it all in Rider Nation!
31-6 @ halftime, 45-23 final & the party didn't end till the wee hours.
We have an area that's called The Green Mile going down the centre street of the City, and in a weird twist Tom Hanks was at the game with Martin Short, albeit cheering for the wrong team, but they both hit the Green Mile to take in the party...it was ironically cool.

And Jem, yes it was worth it. The card has a sweet response throughout the entire range and does make a difference with a quality FLAC file. I swapped out some Opamps to get a smoother sound in the high ranges. I used the LME49720's in the I/V spots and an LM6172 in the buffer.
I got it partially to run thru my Sennheiser HD595 cans, which come to life with the built-in amp on the card, but overall this card performs flawlessly.

I gotta rest some more, I think the entire City & Province took today off, we need more time to recover...WOOT!!
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25. November 2013 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sennhesier makes good headphones no doubt, the US Military and most of aviation use them as well. I'd much rather crank up a good amp and speakers myself, although I did have some induced noise with a poor power source and different ground planes to deal with, but cleared that up with a good power conditioner and a high quality isolation transformer buffering the RCA's so my noise floor is now studio quality. Now all I need to do is get a good mic preamp with some bells and whistles and I'll be set for live music, karaoke, studio reproduction, or even compressed music even though it doesn't meet my performance levels, however with little noise it isn't bad. Crown XLS's is my neighborhood among other gear. Love music too....

Congrats Chappy....
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26. November 2013 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Amp. QSC (Cristal clear sound) over Crown (Power).
Speakers: Electro-Voice (1927) over JBL (1946).

If your Sound System is Good:
You can talk-listen to another person right in-front on the speakers when are playing at high volume.

Live Free or Die.
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Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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26. November 2013 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Congrats on the win Chappy.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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27. November 2013 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use Shoutcast every day. Is there another way of finding these wonderfully idiosyncratic stations anywhere else?
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27. November 2013 @ 16:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try Musicbee.
The only downside from (ShoutCast-Winamp) is the lack to stream from it, less stations to choose from & less skins.
(ULTRA is my fav. For Alternative Rock, no ads).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1ryIctU8A0

IceCast: http://dir.xiph.org/index.php

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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27. November 2013 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Amp. QSC (Cristal clear sound) over Crown (Power).
Speakers: Electro-Voice (1927) over JBL (1946).

If your Sound System is Good:
You can talk-listen to another person right in-front on the speakers when are playing at high volume.
It would depend on the volume (decibels)output as to what you could hear from a conversation right in front of your speakers NO MATTER how good of a system you have. I won't knock QSC but I'll stay with my XLS over a QSC amp. I do love the old EV's they are definitely sweet speakers, I use to have several and I had old RTR towers with the plug in the wall Electrostatic Tweeters too as well as many other older good stuff.

I love MusicBee they are really good and will become my preferred player for audio.
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27. November 2013 @ 19:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cheer!
I gonna try one Crown: I-Tech HD.

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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28. November 2013 @ 05:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Try Musicbee.
The only downside from (ShoutCast-Winamp) is the lack to stream from it, less stations to choose from & less skins.
(ULTRA is my fav. For Alternative Rock, no ads).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1ryIctU8A0

IceCast: http://dir.xiph.org/index.php
Thanks, I'll give those a look.
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30. November 2013 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Congrats on the win Chappy.
Thanx my friend!

Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Sennhesier makes good headphones no doubt, the US Military and most of aviation use them as well. I'd much rather crank up a good amp and speakers myself, although I did have some induced noise with a poor power source and different ground planes to deal with, but cleared that up with a good power conditioner and a high quality isolation transformer buffering the RCA's so my noise floor is now studio quality. Now all I need to do is get a good mic preamp with some bells and whistles and I'll be set for live music, karaoke, studio reproduction, or even compressed music even though it doesn't meet my performance levels, however with little noise it isn't bad. Crown XLS's is my neighborhood among other gear. Love music too....

Congrats Chappy....
Also Thanx my friend!

My top line Onkyo gear got stolen from a storage unit a few years ago and the insurance company I had screwed me over & didn't cover it. The circumstances were a little weird so they had a 3rd party investigator check it out and he validated the claim and recommended they pay out, but they still declined it. Needles to say I was pissed (so was the investigator)& I haven't gotten around to replacing them yet.
This card tho, does a very admirable job going thru my home theater system, Logitech Z-5500 with Nuance speakers in place of the little Logi speakers, which I use 3 of for my centre channel. While Nuance speakers didn't live up to the hype when they first arrived, they still are a pretty decent speaker and can handle some serious volume.
I've been a musician since I was 6 and have also done sound engineering for 4 bands, so I guess you can say I also love my music (Classic Rock).

I've d'loaded MusicBee to see what it's got, let's see if it becomes my go-to player.

Later folks!

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30. November 2013 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use a Yamaha front end with Crown XLS 2500 amps, Klipsch Horn speakers with Klipsch LaScalla's and Klipsch KLF 20's as reinforcement surrounds with a Klipsch SC3 center plus I'm building bass reflex Eminence 12in with Selenium Professional Horn Drivers (Tweeter/Midrange). I also have Klipsch 12" Subs as well as some Dayton Audio RSS390HF-4 15" Reference HF Subwoofer's 4 Ohm that I'm also building. I have Mixing boards, a Karaoke system professional, several different mic's based around Shure M58's & SM58's, I do need a better mic preamp and I could use a sound effects board but I have almost a full small studio.

I dabble just a little bit with audio but not as much as the average kid does these days, right! LOL
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30. November 2013 @ 22:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I use a Yamaha front end with Crown XLS 2500 amps, Klipsch Horn speakers with Klipsch LaScalla's and Klipsch KLF 20's as reinforcement surrounds with a Klipsch SC3 center plus I'm building bass reflex Eminence 12in with Selenium Professional Horn Drivers (Tweeter/Midrange). I also have Klipsch 12" Subs as well as some Dayton Audio RSS390HF-4 15" Reference HF Subwoofer's 4 Ohm that I'm also building. I have Mixing boards, a Karaoke system professional, several different mic's based around Shure M58's & SM58's, I do need a better mic preamp and I could use a sound effects board but I have almost a full small studio.

I dabble just a little bit with audio but not as much as the average kid does these days, right! LOL
Holy shite batman...that's an expensive little setup you have there! I used to have LasCallas at one time as well, they've been around for some time now, very nice speakers. I like Klipsch gear.
I haven't had a "super setup" like that for some time, I had to sell my last one after my divorce in 97. I probably miss my TEAC A3440 the most, followed closely my American Acoustic Labs speakers. Big-ass boxes with a 15" sub, 2-8" horns and 4-3" tweeters per box, in a hardshell case with front covers, big metal handles and metal corners because we also used them as stage monitors at one time. They had a very demanding presence (and power requirement) but also a 20' projection so you needed a big room for them to perform at their best.

I'd LOVE to come by and help play with your gear there MM, it's been awhile since I've played with a good mixer and the system to make it all work.

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30. November 2013 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I miss my reel-to-reels too I had both Akia's GX's and TEAC's. I also had several EV's Voice of the theaters, RTR towers with the plug into the wall electrostatic tweeter among many other toys. It looks like you too had some good toys I don't know what I'd do with out my audio gear, love good sound environments but I've also worked with a lot of musicians over the years too, not so much now unfortunately and used to play and sing years ago but the old voice isn't what it use to be when I was a kid. Ya I wish you could come over I'm sure we would like similar music and could have a good time.
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2. December 2013 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TEAC is public & TASCAM is the pro brand.

I use TASCAM for recording CD-RW's & CD-R's.
As a DJ. should I upgrade to: !?
http://tascam.com/product/cd-rw901sl/

My next step is recording DVD-RW's & DVD-R's.

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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2. December 2013 @ 20:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TEAC was Pro too, actually in the day TEAC was premier gear, top of the line. TEAC isn't obviously what they were a couple decades ago just like Marantz & Harman Kardon isn't either

That Tascam looks pretty good and I like the pitch adjust feature too so I could see buying one of those but I would probably goes with one of their master recorders like the DA-3000 or the HS-4000.

Here is a picture of the old Akai GX-230D I had many years ago.
Akai GX-230D
You'll find it mid-way down the page.

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3. December 2013 @ 00:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrguss:
TEAC is public & TASCAM is the pro brand.

I use TASCAM for recording CD-RW's & CD-R's.
As a DJ. should I upgrade to: !?
http://tascam.com/product/cd-rw901sl/

My next step is recording DVD-RW's & CD-R's.
The TEAC A3440 4 Channel Simulsync was standard fare in many a recording studio back in the 70's & 80's, including mine. I just wish I had all the tapes from those days still, I don't even really know what the hell happened to them...
The recordings from my own band(s) would be awesome to listen to now, we were pretty darn good if I must say so myself. Sure miss those days and the groupies that came with the job...LOL
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3. December 2013 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All of my 7" & 10" tapes started to fall apart after a decade or so of use and sitting. The magnetic bias would just peel off, which was sad since I had a ton of music that I lost and party tapes gone. I did have a TEAC 4ch too, I forget the model # off hand, and we used it for recording in a friends basement who I grew up with. I also used it with some good bands like The Daisy Dillman Band and a few others. I'm with you on the old days. ;D
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3. December 2013 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I remember those TEAC reel-to-reel when my friends & I open our first discotheque in my town (70's - 80's). We use to buy the mix tapes (Reels) from a well known Disco.

In the 80's. I start doing my own mix-tapes; in 2000 I start mixing CD's. & now is almost time to start mixing DVD's.

I know: I'm behind many DJ's & VJ's. But for me mixing is just a hobby.

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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I think you should thing Blu-ray and skip DVD as the time spread would be like/better then the old reel-to-reels were in the day. You can get a lot of music on a Blu-ray with sample rates of 192KHz, great fidelity and long play, the best of both worlds. Love music! Like Chappy...
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4. December 2013 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agree:
I thought it awhile ago, just like in the 80's when I decide to get CD's as a source in stead of tapes.

Now is time to make the jump to BR as a source and skip DVD's.
Good thing that I only have 100- DVD's on music video clips.

Next:
http://tascam.com/product/bd-r2000/

Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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4. December 2013 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The main caveat there is, BD-Rs are more expensive, byte-for-byte, than hard drives currently are, and are FAR slower than HDs. A 25-pack of 50GB Blu-Ray blank disks costs $65-80, depending on manufacturer and distributor, for a total of 1.25TB of storage. I know for a fact that 2TB+ external HDs currently run for the exact same price range. Just check out Newegg, especially their newsletter discounts, if you don't believe me; they recently offered a 3GB external for $89. BD-RWs are FAR more expensive than BR-Rs, as well.

You quite literally can archive external HDs for less and gain faster access/write times; they are fully erasable/rewritable AND take up less space, to boot (for an equivalent amount of storage). HDs also don't require the acquisition of a separate BD burner, which will ALSO cost nearly as much as an external HD - lol.

Quite a few recent receivers/"media center" boxes support external HDs, whether by USB or ethernet, as well.

Edit --> Ugh, kept using "GB" instead of "TB"...

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4. December 2013 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agree.

But I think the mayor problem I face is that original video clips on BD are not many & I'm no-fan of live concerts on video or audio.

Get streamed MPEG4 videos to my hard drive (no DRM but with a watermark) is no bad. But is no greater that the real physical disc.
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Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.

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4. December 2013 @ 20:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Agree:
I thought it awhile ago, just like in the 80's when I decide to get CD's as a source in stead of tapes.

Now is time to make the jump to BR as a source and skip DVD's.
Good thing that I only have 100- DVD's on music video clips.

Next:
http://tascam.com/product/bd-r2000/
That is your best bet and you can still use flash drives and memory sticks as well. I'm also interested in the HS-4000/HS-8/DA-3000 units too.
 
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