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18. October 2004 @ 22:47 |
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shaddy, that definitely sounds like a media problem. Use dvdinfopro and see what the manufacturer of the TDK discs are. If they are MCC, that's Mitsibishi and they should be OK. If not, that's probably your problem.
Again, you're using a media that can be produced by different manufacturers because they farm out some of their media, so you never know what you're getting from one batch to the next.
Why weren't we using the branded Ritek G04 4x -R or the branded Ridata 4x +R that was recommended? Hmmm....? heh heh
I just can't seem to impress on people the IMPORTANCE of quality media(you can't see me but I'm crying right now ;>( ), not expensive( either of those discs are under .50 w/free shipping) just good dependable quality..
One last thing, what is the format of your DVD-ROM drive, burner, and DVD player? Now, what is the format of your media?
All must match.(+ or -, R and RW)
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18. October 2004 @ 23:08 |
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buckley28,
Permit me to intervine til my good friend Pete can get back to ya.
Totally fast and everything but the discs I just bought (from eBay) that are the dual sided DVD-R. You know the ones that fit 9.4GB? Anyway after looking through some of the posts I am I correct in understanding that my drive does not support the format of the discs? Because as bCat6 stated "medium is not present so it's not burning the DVD" came up when I was going to do the actual burning of the file. I think I am correct but need some clarification.
No.1-the slower the burn the less chance for error, not to mention the media is much cheaper. I never burn at over 4x. Fast burns are known for causing errors.
No.-2 What media are you using and does your format of your burner match the format of your media? By format I mean +,-,R. and RW. You also need to get Quality media like Ritek, Ridata, or verbatim. Make sure they are BRANDED. Bad media causes more errors than all the rest of DVD backup combined(that may be an exaggeration,but i'm trying to make a point!), it's not just a quality issue, it's a matter of having a workable copy.
Now, you're saying dual sided, do you mean dual sided or dual layered? A dual sided disc is a flipper disc, that is, it plays on both sides of the DVD disc. A regular burner can burn these discs because all it sees is a DVD 5 disc.(4.37gigs)
A dual layer disc is all on one side, it has two layers, that is, a burner has to be able to detect the second layer and when it begins. This disc is DVD9(8.5 gigs). A special dual layer burner is required to burn these discs.
Since I don't know your burner or your media I can't really tell you anything specific.
One last thing, if you are indeed using dual layered discs, you can use decrypter by itself in ISO mode(read and write) as long as it doesn't go over 8.5 gigs. forget that 9.4 crap, as in the DVD 5 they tell you 4.7 but it's only 4.37, the DL discs are only 8.5g.
Decrypter can handle dual layered discs, but it must write in ISO. Since these discs are so large, there is no need to use an editing or compressing application, because unless they exceed 8.5 the files will fit on DL media. Most movies (with bonus features) run around 7.5-7.9 gigs.
Hope this helps........
EDIT***-i just noticed you said your burner supports +RW? That means it will support +R or +RW. It doesn't mean you can only burn RW discs. If I had your burner specs and your media specs, i could do a whole lot better. BTW, you are talking about your burner and not your DVD-ROM drive, right?
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19. October 2004 @ 03:56 |
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Big O,
I just want to let you know that you impressed upon me the importance of media, I believe totally that crap media brings crap results. Besides, the Riteks look all pretty with the nice Sharpie touch. I have yet to create one out to the 15 or so I have made, that has not worked, so I am a believer.
I bow now.
gimpie
One more thing, what is a good registry cleaning program to use? I tried a couple that I found free trials on the net, but I was not impressed enough to spend $30.
Prostar 5600P, 2.0Ghz P IV, 512mb DDR, 64mb ATI mobility 7500, 40gb HD, 80gb external HD, NEC ND6500-A burner Win XP SP2
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19. October 2004 @ 04:23 |
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Do you guys know who makes Fugi media?
I just bought a Pioneer DVD recorder for the livingroom and that is one of the recommended brands (as are Sony and Ritek and Verbatum, like you guys have said). The freebies that came with the recorder are Fugi also.
Personally, I have never much cared for Fugi products; just wondering what you guys think...
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19. October 2004 @ 05:00 |
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... Well .. ket's see .. the FUJI media could have been produced by one of five manufacturers ...
1- Tayoyuden (excellent)
2- MCC (excellent)
3- RICOHJPN (also produces RiDATA, which is what I use)
4- Prodisc (another great manufacturer)
5- Fujifilm (grades out well by digitalfaq.com, but is the lowest of the five)
.. to determine the exact manufacturer of your media, you must install and use a program such as DVD Identifier ...
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
... and the digitalfaq website is ...
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
.. My personal favorite media is the RiDATA branded Ritek discs ...
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19. October 2004 @ 05:56 |
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Pattykmn, catfreak's advice is excellent, just follow it. One thing, I would also try dvdinfopro (it's like dvdidentifier). Both are free, so you could use both i guess, but I like infopro a lot more even tho I have both,LOL..
dvdinfopro does a lot more then identify, whether it's media, drives, burners, etc. It will reestablish links with hardware, erase and format discs, play mpeg, AVI, VOB,etc., snapshots(saves current view as jpg file), copies to clipboard, sets booktype on drives, tests for read errors, tests for media and drive speed, preference settings for programs, it'll even create and compare ISO files(haven't used that one yet, heh heh), and let's see, mmm.....oh yeah it'll even eject your drive trays, LOL.
The more i use that sucker the more i'm impressed with it, plus the fact those intrusive ads on most free software are almost non-existent on this little app. One little popup when you 1st open it and that's it.
Keep it on your desktop for handy access, i highly recommend this little jem to EVERYBODY! ;>)
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dabney
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19. October 2004 @ 06:17 |
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can someone tell me what do i do to get defjam fight for ny burned from off the computer
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19. October 2004 @ 06:19 |
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gimpie, Thanx man! ;>)
On registry cleaners, I like Be Clean and RegSeeker. I use both, usually what one misses the other will get. RegSeeker is probably the more powerful of the two.
BeClean has Registry Cleaner, Internet Cleaner, History Cleaner, Temporary Files Cleaner, Disk Cleaner, Desktop Cleaner and Start Menu Cleaner. You can even create your own cleaner!
It can be found here:
http://boozet.xepher.net
RegSeeker is a little more involved, has more features. "RegSeeker is a handy tool for managing several popular registry items and searching the registry by keyword. It offers quick access to Startup Entries, Uninstall Information, Color Schemes, History items (URLs, Recent Documents etc) and IE Favorites. The program also includes a registry cleaning feature that finds invalid and unused registry entries, allowing you to delete them. RegSeeker can automatically create a backup before deleting any registry entries. The program comes with an attractive, easy to use interface. Nevertheless it is not intended for complete beginners and you should feel comfortable working with the Windows registry before using it." As far as cleaning the registry goes, just follow the leads and you'll be alright.
Just remember when using the app there is no "go" button, you have to right click on the window, then choose and click on your options.
You can find it here:
http://www.onlythebestfreeware.com/program.asp?program_id=30
I have run other registry cleaners and then run that app and it found 1000-1200 more entries!
But, it's good to run a couple to cover all bases, run BeClean 1st, then run RegSeeker. Both are free! And better than most of the paid versions I've seen.
Good luck...:>)
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19. October 2004 @ 06:24 |
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That's four manufacturers and one brand that sells media by several manufacturers, much of it by 3 on the list. Below are some of the manufacturers along with the format they manufacture for Fuji.
-R: ProdiscS03 (Prodisc Technology Inc.), PVC001001 (Pioneer Video Corporation)
Prodisc was #4
-RW: MCC 01RW11 (Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation), PVCW000001Q9 (Pioneer Video Corporation)
MCC is #2 and PVC wasn't on the list except it is Fuji
+RW: RICOHJPNW019 (Ricoh Company Limited)
Ricoh is #3
+R: RICOHJPNR018 (Ricoh Company Limited), RICOHJPNR008
Again Ricoh is #3
I'd recommend going with Ritek-RiData, as you are assured of a good media at a good price. You'll get Ritek or Ricoh depending on whether you choose the - or +R format. I'm not pushing Meritline, but they seem to have about the best track record of service and guarantee. Appears catfreak, BigO, and I are in agreement.
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19. October 2004 @ 06:25 |
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19. October 2004 @ 06:28 |
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dabney, I have no idea what you're asking, could you try a little punctuation and full wording please? :>)
Ls it cud be lik this u no wat i men win i giv a ansr to the ?.
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19. October 2004 @ 06:40 |
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... bigorange ... I didn't realize that you were bi-lingual ...
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19. October 2004 @ 06:41 |
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catfreak , don't ya just hate that crap? LOL
It's a good thing they don't get a chance or else you would have another loss on your record, LOL.
BTW, to the mods, sorry for responding to catfreak's off topic post ;>)
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19. October 2004 @ 07:16 |
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Ok, here's a change of question/pace, but I have a computer at work and I have a ton and I do mean a ton of music on it, and I would love to listen to it at home. Problem is, it's mostly mp3s. I can convert to .wavs and that's fine, but it doesn't dent my supply of music. I tried making a data disc of my converted mp3 files to .wav files and burning them to a dvd, but even my PS2 (playstation 2) wouldn't recognize them. How do I get mp3s and/or .wavs to a dvd player to save me space off a dvd? Or do I simply have to live with the limited space off a .wav capabilitiy of a normal cd? I've seen the new dvd players that offer mp3/burned dvd ability, but I was hoping I could do it right now with my current set-up. Let me know. By the way, I've got over fifty films and going in my collection. I love you all. =)
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19. October 2004 @ 10:53 |
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Has anybody received this error yet?
Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)
Btw, thanks to ScubaPete and BigOrange for sharing their wisdom and allowing me to back up 2 dvds so far. My Bruce Lee collection will live on...
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19. October 2004 @ 11:30 |
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skins, that usually means scratched and/or dirty discs. :>)
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19. October 2004 @ 11:32 |
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Just wondering if the registry cleaning has anything to do with burning DVD's. I saw the question earlier, but not sure what it is relating to? I only ask because I wanted to know if this is something I needed to be using on my computer if I am burning disc?
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19. October 2004 @ 13:23 |
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Hey brobear,
I'm just saying a conversation about a media that in the past I had "listed" (which is the context which I had written that post in) had no bearing on the questions that were being addressed here and now on this thread. Don't go getting "ticked" on account of nothing - I just wanted to get this thread back on track. Your views are always welcomed.
Peace there good guy, let's just have peace -
Pete
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I get them at Fry's and pay .19 cents a dvd. They've worked great so far. Just having issues with the software I was using. That's why I'm trying out DVDSHRINK.
That's like saying, "I have a car with 4 flat tires and it won't go anywhere." So you're going to blame the transmission (your software) and maybe, if the fault isn't there - is the next step to blame the car's engine (the DVD drive.) ? There's nothing that we can say to you at this point - you feel your $.19 discs are blameless (the car's flat tires don't matter, the car doesn't drive.).You'll have to look else where as it appears our council hasn't any value.
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I think it would be great if we could talk on the phone or something more direct because while I appreciate this forum a lot, it doesn't allow for immediacy of response.
Hey there good guy, I totally understand, I really do - So when you get back from your $49.99 to $69.99 tech support phone calls, stop back and let us know how you made out :)
Cheers,
Howdy buckley28,
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I have a 16x DVD+RW drive which came with the computer. Totally fast and everything but the discs I just bought (from eBay) that are the dual sided DVD-R. You know the ones that fit 9.4GB? Anyway after looking through some of the posts I am I correct in understanding that my drive does not support the format of the discs?
Not too many pple use Dual-sided discs but they are to be treated as single-sided discs that you can "flip" over and record on the other side. It should be a Firmware issue not a format issue. Many mfgs. have "Tweaked" their drives to accommodate "flipper" discs. Check with your drive's mfg to see if they are set for that type of media.
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One last thing, I understand from reading certain areas around the internet that the dual sided (9.4GB) DVD+RW will not be available for sometime to the general public. Is this so? If not where can I get some so I dont have to break up or reduce any of the movies ready to be burned?
Once again, you'll have to look at the "date stamp" on those posts because I haven't seen too many posts on Dual-sided discs recently as they have been available for a couple of years. Most of today's conversations deal with Dual-layered discs. Some pple may be waiting on Dual-Layered discs that are Dual-sided also, they're not available at all and I don't know when they will be.
If you're uncertain, post the URL's of those posts you're referring too.
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19. October 2004 @ 14:01 |
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Hey, BigO. I've been using TDK based on Pete's recommendation to another newbie. Didn't know that they were "farmed out" to different manufacturers :)
The big deal about the media brands you recommend is that they won't cost pennies extra, but huge bucks extra - I'll have to import them from the US here into Canada, and Lord knows if they'll even make it past customs. The brands that are all over the place here are Memorex, Kodak, Sony and TDK . . . hmmm, I think that's about it.
The thing, BigO, is that when I use Decrypter/Shrink, I produce good results, but very slowly. Same TDK, same writer, etc. How then could it be the media?
My writer is +/- (Sony DRU-710A) and I've had identical results using either format of media.
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19. October 2004 @ 14:03 |
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Pete,
I'm reminded of the old adage, you can lead a horse(or car heh heh) to water, but........
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19. October 2004 @ 14:08 |
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sorry shaddy, I either forgot or didn't know you were in Canada. I answer so many of these things I tend to be forgetful sometimes. Like I say, if the TDK is made by MCC you're in fine shape. I actually use to buy TDK til I got a batch one time that wasn't MCC, I think it's only recently,(in the last few months) they started doing this or it could have been the supplier.
Did you use dvdinfopro on them?
I have a Canadian link somewhere for media, let me see if i can find it.
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19. October 2004 @ 14:09 |
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Shaddy, media wouldn't cause your programs to work slower, i think we've got our wires crossed somewhere.
Here's that link and i believe they have riteks and verbatim.
Canadian media suppliers:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/media.html
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19. October 2004 @ 14:40 |
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shaddy, i responded to your comment,
The disc, however, won't play. It is not being recogised by the DVD-ROM or by the DVD player connected to my TV. The brand is TDK.
To me that suggests media problem or compatibility problem. That has nothing to do with your programs running slow or not working.
I believe I suggested using Nero recode w/ decrypter to rip and see if it ran as slow as your /shrink/decrypter to burn combo in order to determine if the problem was in your PC or in the applications. To that you responded:
Thanks for the useful info, BigO. I used a combination of Decrypter in file mode and Nero Recode as you suggested, and the process went smothly. No error messages
Have we uncrossed the wires now? :>)
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19. October 2004 @ 14:47 |
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... Shaddy ... I just talked to a buddy in Windsor and he said that he and his mates buy their Ritek media from http://www.blankmedia.ca/
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19. October 2004 @ 14:51 |
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Thanx catfreak, another link to put in my folder for our Canadian friends :>)
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