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Taiyo Yuden Bulk Pack
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26. June 2005 @ 12:23 |
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Purchased these 4x DVD-R in Canada from blankmedia.ca in a bulk pack of 100 for $40.95 (Can.)They have a silver lacquer finish and had one of two different ID's on the hub:
GD000267
GD000272
Burned about a dozen at 4x on a Aopen duw 1608/arr without any problems (zero errors).
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG01
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 16
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 05
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1B
4x Write Strategy field 4 13 A8 89 65
4x Write Strategy field 5 B6 89 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0D 13 .j...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 31 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG01......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 0F 11 ................
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26. June 2005 @ 13:33 |
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Im not in Canada but that looks like a good price for your area,and it looks like they are authentic.
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26. June 2005 @ 15:41 |
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agreed with jim~ :)
when looking at 4x TYG01s...look for the GD000xxx (xxx being 3 different NUMBERS as to the batch of when they were made). u are good w/ those from canada~ :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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ScubaPete
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26. June 2005 @ 16:37 |
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FYI,
These same discs have been sold in the US for the grand total of $.24ea in bulk packs of 100.
I have gotten them from both MeritLine.com and NewEgg.com
Pete
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27. June 2005 @ 10:12 |
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Hi attar,
This is excellent news.
I am from Canada, and these are exactly the ones I want to buy soon.
http://www.blankmedia.ca/proddetail3.asp?id=421
DVD-R 4x Silver Lacquer Top (Taiyo Yuden).
I burn everything at 2x, but with those, I might try 4x
attar, how much was the shipping for those 100 ?
Will gimme an idea.
Thanks for letting us know !
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27. June 2005 @ 14:27 |
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I went to that site (blankmedia) and it says they open and repack the dvd-r's. I heard that wasn't a good thing.
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27. June 2005 @ 14:40 |
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Definately not a good thing. You might get two different dye lots. Only buy Taiyo Yudens in Origional Pkg.
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27. June 2005 @ 14:52 |
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What is a good site to buy Taiyo Yuden's from?
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27. June 2005 @ 15:38 |
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I usually do not "pimp" sites but since you asked Rima.com
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27. June 2005 @ 15:50 |
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cougar_ii:
"attar, how much was the shipping for those 100 ? "
$9.02 for shipping.Final cost with tax $57.41
Product was shipped from Kitchener ON. to Windsor ON.
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27. June 2005 @ 17:12 |
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Hi there,
Even if they are repacked, you are paying for some 4x, and you might end up with 8x, so that's not so bad.
Here's what they say on their web site
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Authentic Taiyo Yuden DVD-R media, made to the highest standards. Highest quality, suitable for duplication and public distribution. Disc features no stacking ring -- this means it can be printed by today's high speed disc production systems. The spindle you receive may be TyG02 or TYG01 depending on the batch lot. These are sold in bulk 100 packs. They are opened and repackaged for orders of 50 pcs. Orders of 50 pcs receive cake box packaging.
Format: Bulk value pack
Media Code Mfr: TYG01
Formatted Size: Not Formatted
Total Size: 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type: DVD-R
Media Type: 0
Media Code Id: 8.0x 11080KBps
Write Strategy Speed: 12.0x 16620 KBps
Current Drive Speed: 0
Default Rotation: 0
Linear Density: 0
Layers: 1
Media Code:
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 .l...@....R..... 00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG02...... 00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 06 08 0E 11 ......."" ...... Pioneer 108
Compatibility:
Everything at 4x
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27. June 2005 @ 21:49 |
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Final cost ont he TYs HERE in the states with shipping is 32 bucks and some change .at supermedia store or meritline.com
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30. June 2005 @ 16:44 |
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Definately not a good thing. You might get two different dye lots. Only buy Taiyo Yudens in Origional Pkg.
Now that's the silliest thing I ever heard ~
Would you care to elucidate and regal us with a factual basis for that statement ?
I've purchased TY's in 100-pack spindle lots for years. Have I been risking my entire DVD collection, perhaps jeopardized the physical health of my 4 DVD drives ?
How could I have been so foolish ?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. June 2005 @ 16:46
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1. July 2005 @ 10:03 |
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Yes I will educate you if you wish. If you ever looked around the dye side hub on inner ring you will see number usually starting with GG, GD GH etc. The number GG00001159 indicates that dye lot was 1159. I have many dyes different dyes lots. The 8x + Tys lot 1133 are a great deal better than dye lot 1159. The 1133 dye lot is a Ty 8x + Yuden000-T02-000 Fuji branded. The lot 1159 is the same MID but Sony branded. Same media code but different quality discs. Do some scans for yourself and see.
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2. July 2005 @ 04:05 |
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here is my scan of my TYs 8x DVD+Rs:
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID YUDEN000T02
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 01 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 .......YUDEN000T
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 02.8#T7..Nr..c..
00000030 0B 0B 0A 0A 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................
Can anyone explain what is a PIE/PIF test here is my results.....explain the chart to me:
I can gess about the Jitter part! LOL The PIF is 0 what does that mean? I see the PIE but the PIF is non existant.
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2. July 2005 @ 05:30 |
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i'm a bit slow understanding those sort of graphs, i'm happier with the kprobe ones..
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2. July 2005 @ 05:34 |
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I can't seem to understand what PIO/PIF means......Jitter I know! LOL
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2. July 2005 @ 05:36 |
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IHoe, have you looked at the kprobe graphs in first link in my sig, i pasted an overview of pif etc in there cus it was all gibberish to me at first..
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2. July 2005 @ 05:52 |
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thank you so much for that info! At least I have somewhere to go and how to understand this! I'm learning every day! thanks
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2. July 2005 @ 21:10 |
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@ALAND,
WoW, thanks ever so much ~ Taiyo Yuden makes a super crappy media
Hey everyone, If it isn't an 8X, 1133, DO NOT BUY IT !
My God ALAND, Thanks, I must have been MAD, MAD I say to think there was anything at all good before the advent of the 8X disc.
Stupid, stupid ScubaPete, for years, I've been under the impression that TY's were great. I remember lQQking HI and low for 8X a couple of 3 years ago and all I could find were 2X and 4X (only the 4X in the last 1 1/2 years ago) and not knowing that they were to be avoided at all costs, not only did I buy them BUT I told thousands of others to purchase them also. How many hundreds of thousands did they sell as being a top-notched disc when all those years we should have purchased only the 1133 dye app ~ God, were we all a$$'s or what ? Thank goodness there's someone as smart as ALAND to bail my sorry old butt out, . . . I gotta buy him a thank you gift, .. ..
Gee, I thought I knew a little something BUT NOW, well WOW again. To think, there can only be one good disc AND mixing dye lots is to be avoided because it is definitely not good.
(Come on Pete, put your thinking cap on, the opposite of "not good" is, . . . Ohhh yea, it's BAD ! Man, that is truly scary, . . . . )
(taking a notepad to jot it down sooo's I don't forget the cold, hard facts,)
OK, we know never ever to buy anything other than TY 1133, I just threw out 120, 4X TY, What else should I get rid of ?
Are only the Verbatim 8X any good also ? Were we insane even considering anything other than an 8X ?
(Man, it's a good thing I got rid of those 4X TY's that I bought for $24.00 / 100, what a rip-off ~ and to think, I might have 2 different dye lots, Man was that a close one ~)
OK, I'm going around to all the posts I've done over the last few years and I'm removing Sony's, Phillips, TDK's, HP's all discs made by MCC, RICOH and Ritek that aren't approved by ALAND OR are not 8X discs.
(beginning to wander off, staring at the floor, shaking my head and talking to myself, . . . . . ;(
What have I done, I've lied to so many for so many years - all TY's EXCEPT 8X, any other dye is substandard crap - come on Pete, get it together, you've got a lot of typing to do . . ..
Now I wonder, do I have to burn them at 8X too, . . . . ? Maybe if I'm burning at 4X I'll have the laser on the dye too long and ruin everything, . . . . Soo many cold hard facts to digest, . . . . IF THE PACKAGING ISN'T RIGHT, trash the discs.
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Definately not a good thing. You might get two different dye lots. Only buy Taiyo Yudens in Origional Pkg.
Lemme see, does it hold true with Ritek ?
I was recommending G04 dye AND the G05 stuff too, . . . . I guess the G04 dye went "bad", like all of TY's previous dyes and it will rot my jewel cases and contaminate my drives, . . . so many facts, without the proper packaging, you cannot get decent discs . . . where would I be without someone so generous with their knowledge to point out that all I thought I knew was total garbage -
Gee, I was so very close to ruination, imagine, if I might have had 2 or, heaven forbid, even 3 different dye lots on my table at the same time . . . I hate to think of the consequences, fire, flood and pestilence.
So had to fathom, there is only one dye lot that can be used ? Never mix dye lots, "It defiantly is not a good thing " (note: sorry for the quotation marks, I couldn't bring myself to misspell defiantly :( My bad . . . )
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Definately not a good thing. You might get two different dye lots.
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3. July 2005 @ 07:41 |
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wow scuba..... sit down have a drink...... take a deep breath and relax! I'm sure Aland isn't the only one out there that knows about dye lots! LOL ;-)
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3. July 2005 @ 10:46 |
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LOL subapete , you think aland will get your point heheh
you just might know a thing or two about blank media ,since you have made 1000s of post about it and have been here for years
but i guess if we have anymore questions about blank media we can NOW just asked aland ,since he seems to know it all
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3. July 2005 @ 10:53 |
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is it me or is it Memorex?? come on guys..... lay off this guy.... I still burn at 16x and I have no probs with my DVDs! Does that mean I know it all...... HELL NO! I am just satisfied that it works for me! I do slow it down if I think there might be a problem with the certain DVD that I am burning! But 9 times out of 10 I go at 16x. I hope that doesn't burn anyones bubble cause I go against the norm! I feel sorry for Aland that some of us are jumping on his case. If he's giving out wrong ifo just correct him. He's doing what we do...giving info on what works for him. It's a learning experience and we are all evolving! ok..... he said stuff that might be head banging for others who have been giving information on the contrary for years...... killem! oh hell......... where's your gun at!
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3. July 2005 @ 12:28 |
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I sincerely apologize for having a different opinion than Scuba Pete. Although I think he overeacted to my comments I will leave this thread to the "real experts" on this thread. After that post, I can see that no opinions are needed on this thread. You already have someone that can answer all your questions. I am truely sorry to have wasted your time.
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3. July 2005 @ 14:28 |
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@scubapete,
why are you being so harsh on aland? after putting ME in check about my error on media, did you have to take the time to insult him in this thread? YES, you ARE the expert on media scubapete and have been for years, but does that give you the right to ridicule someone to that degree? as you told me to do, "grow up"~ he meant no harm by what he said, whether his opinion makes sense or is incorrect, that is not deserving of the kind of sarcasm that you put on him. for someone that is highly regarded as the long time expert on media, you sure know how to put us "newbies" down.
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do u really feel aland deserved such a beating? you are only encouraging it~ i don't think so, no need to kiss scubapete's a$$, NOBODY doubts scubapete's extensive knowledge and wisdom on here, but aland still doesn't deserve what he got, he's a good guy, and I will personally stand up for him; it's the principle, not whether he is correct or not about his statement.
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