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16. April 2007 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn i cant take a vacation for a bit without all hell breaking loose around here! I dont even know all of whats going on, but i can imagine it's the same crap we've seen before so i'll give my standard explination. here's the deal folks, sad but true, we cant make everyone happy all of the time so we wont bother trying. for years and years i've seen people whine and bitch about this thread or that thread being closed, well tough titty! the safety valve has never been "immune" to anything. the same rules apply there, we just tend to look the other way when it comes to retarded rambling on with the threads. the old timers will know we've been thru all this pointless crap many times, nothing will change, we'll still run the site the way WE see fit, and thats that. unfortunately, the majority does not rule here, so no matter how many people seem to love a particular thread, we'll kill it when we think we need to. within an hour someone will make a new one, then everyone will migrate to it, and all is happy in the land of aD. no amount of bitching, whining, nagging, pastering, begging, etc, etc is going to change it. however, a large contribution to the mods paypal accounts might have some effect, but i wouldn't hold my breath.
dont get me wrong, i hate to see people leave, but they do it of their own free will, and we need to respect that. i've had countless friends (yes, i have friends believe it or not) vanish from aD over retarded messes like this one, and i'm sure i'll see more ride off into the sunset before it's all over. get over it, live and let live, we'll sweep up the corpses and spray the smelly stuff, sooner or later you'll forget all about it.





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16. April 2007 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What the hell did I miss? Things don't seem to be too rosy here. I think I'll stick to reading the "Other PC Hardware" threads. :(

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first things first, my bitch for today is the school shooting in Virginia, and finding out one of my cousins got seriously injured...
FUBAR folks, FUBAR.

As for what has apparently happened here...
Well sweet baby jesus, i go off for half an evening to help a paranoid customer, and come in to find ddp has left, brandon and jack taking are taking vacations, and in all likelyhood, the sh*t has quite literally hit the fan...

What the [expletives deleted] is this d@mn world coming to ?

If anyone cares to fill me in on the details, please feel free to pm me, or gimme a shout on my IRC chan *listed in my sig*



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16. April 2007 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by janrocks:
I saw the start of this rumbling a few nights ago on IRC.. I'm naming no names, they can own up for hitting the button themselves if they choose.


Well that would be me..the snitch is I. Started as a ribbing to herbsman, but after reentering the safety valve a day or two later and having to scroll through pages and pages of "news" in a "where are the old timers thread" I got fed up.


Now this is aimed entirely at ireland and I apoligize if it seemed underhanded in anyway, but PM's would have got us no where...I assume you've whined and moaned via PM's to ddp and the rest of the mod team and admins here to get your way as usual. So where would a PM from me or any one else here at AD done any good.

I completely agree with ddp...you have several threads, each of which very popular, here in the safety valve. Pick the right one to post your news. The answer is not to keep changing the thread title to cover your ass, that is just childish...making up the rules as you go. Everyone knows what the safety valve is and what it is for.

When I hit that "offensive post" button I had no intention of running you (ireland) or ddp or anyone else away from the site, but just wanted the mods to do what should have been done along time ago. I don't want anyone to leave (well not anyone)...I've laughed at your jokes and pictures with everyone else here and enjoy them and your presence, but the loads of other BS that you post is insane.

As for being off topic, I'm not innocent. I've taken threads way off topic before...even on purpose on occasion, just to see how far I could take it off topic before something was said. I guess toe'n the line is just a part of human nature.
Originally posted by ireland:

ddp,if thats the only reason...ye may as well close them all,as no thread in the Safety valve is ever on topic
I think that is what he was trying to change...get some organization.

Originally posted by ddp:
ireland, than post your tech stuff in your tech download thread, not in the other threads. do that & i'll re-open the old timers thread. there has been offensive reports about you spamming these other threads with your tech news posts. keep the posts to the threads they belong to, ok?
I couldn't have said it better myself...let me choose what I want to read. When I open the "say good morning thread" I want to see someone saying good morning, not a story about how over priced rice is in China.

Originally posted by janrocks:
Be assured I read those that I have an interest in, and if I can think of something I try to at least make a funny comment about the content.. It's not nice feeling like you are posting into thin air... A common feeling in the console areas....
The randomness of the posts would lessen the chance for everyone to get what they want....if you (ireland) have news post it in the news thread, if you have Vista news post it in the Vista thread. Make up your mind already, how many threads do you need? I'm not saying don't post the stuff, but post it where it belongs...I don't want to deny anyones right to read the news, but I don't want to read it in every thread that ireland posts in.
Originally posted by ireland:

as far as i am concerned they are lower then whale crap
for all i care,close them all....as i will no longer support them..
meaning no more info on vista or downloads or news...
More childish threats...
Originally posted by janrocks:

ireland.. a little FYI.. It wasn't like any sort of big discussion about it, just a comment between two mods. 2 lines at most.
There was no great conspiracy.

Originally posted by janrocks:
Anyway.. what I wanted to say I have.. don't go abandoning us news hungry fools.. we need our daily fix..
See we don't want you (ireland) to go away.

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Ireland was right, if you had an issue pm the guy, I mean whats the worst that can happin, he might reply back and say, hey don't like it kiss my behind, eehh, I can live with that, or he just might say ok, got your point, sorry, now was that hard.
Irelands post from above...
Originally posted by ireland:

quote,ddp
i'm on his shit list. take a look in safety valve.
As I said earlier, what good do PM's do if the person in question is just going public with the private? And ireland and I have had disagreements in the past...I know how he operates.

Originally posted by abcd:
one thing for sure the SV could use a good cleaning up!!!and what should be done is before you can open a thread in the SV a mod should have to OK it


That is a great idea...might add a little more work for the mods though and by the looks of it AD is going to be a little short in the next few days/weeks/months whatever.

Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by ddp:but not 2 or 3 copies of the same post in 2 or 3 different threads all the time. your tech news posts goto your "*HOT* Tech News And Downloads, I Would Read This Thread And Post Any Good Info,Vista" not into "Where Did All The Old Timers Go ? Also Say A Good Morning Or Afternoon Or A Good Evening Or A Good Night Thread". if you are going to do that than decide which thread is to get everything, retitle it & we'll close the others so people don't post into them by mistake.

- i agree 100% (don't take it all personally Ireland). I personally have to scroll thru 99% of them especially the long-winded ones, i've always got far too much to do, my poor old brain is far too busy for all this
Originally posted by billybob:
I have no idea where any of that came from, i mustve missed a page of this thread, but i for one enjoy your hot news posts ireland, and everything you post, but you just have to put yourself in the place of the mods i suppose.
Originally posted by zippyDSM:
I hope everything is ok,and as a mod I am sure even you understand threads need to go to the right forum :X

a forum can only withstand so much randomness befor no one can find their way around 0-o my god I now know why I cant find anythign in my head its a mess!!
Originally posted by gerry1:
Some of Ireland articles are way over my head and there is no sense in my reading them. I have this nifty mouse with a little scroll wheel on it that lets me get past that article really quickly and without a great deal of effort. When I did undertand the articles, they were extremely helpful to me when I don't understand them, well, there I go with that little wheel thing again!
That is alot of scrolling...

Originally posted by little155:
ireland, I normally don't say much about anything that goes on in these forums. I glean the good stuff and throw out the BS. I always look forward to the articles you post, no matter what thread. If it wasn't on the subject, I always considered it a bonus when it came from you. I'll keep reading where ever you post and keep enjoying what I read. You seem to have a good since of humor. Thanks for your articles. George
The odd beam of light...(no offense intended)

There are a few who don't mind scrolling through all the articles, but I'm here several times a day like many and get tired of scrolling when it isn't necessary.

I give up....I'm not leaving, they will have to carry me out the door.

I don't want ireland to leave, just do the right thing. I don't want ddp, creaky, gerry or anyone else to leave over this BS.

The only reason I posted was to let everyone know who the bastard was.

I know I probably won't be making any friends with this post and I'm not worried about that...just who are going to be my new enemies?


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16. April 2007 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Scott, all i'll say it takes a real man to be honest and say it was him, i know you'll get what i mean by that.

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16. April 2007 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wasn't trying to be slick and sly by reporting, I just knew how the other avenues would have turned out. Keeping it between me and the mods was the best route, but since a coward was called out I thought I should stand up and take credit for what has happened.


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16. April 2007 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have not been here all day as I been at the hospital and still there,as I am using my lap-top computer To post this.from my car.

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Now this is aimed entirely at Ireland and I apologize if it seemed underhanded in anyway, but PM's would have got us no where...I assume you've whined and moaned via PM's to ddp and the rest of the mod team and admins here to get your way as usual. So where would a PM from me or any one else here at AD done any good.


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As I said earlier, what good do PM's do if the person in question is just going public with the private?

any thing said to me in a pm is private

And Ireland and I have had disagreements in the past...I know how he operates.

no you don't


I am going to show ye how well ye think ye know how I operates
I did not pm a admin or a site mod.as they can verify that fact.

99.9% of when I pm a site mod, is if I am giving a program away or talk to ddp About windows 98.and pm?s are far in between to those guys.

And it?s a fact I do not go to the powers to complain about any one here or out side the site

[b]Did ye think to try a pm?[b]

Also it?s a fact if ye used the pm system we could of worked this out.
cheers

p/s i for got this,its a fact ddp asked me to change the thread title..

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16. April 2007 @ 16:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I've decided that I'm NOT going anywhere. I'm very fond of a number of people here and, despite claims to the contrary, they are indeed "real" and not mere words and names on a screen... it isn't imaginary people who email me or even call me at home. I'm always polite and respectful to everyone here but its foolish of me to expect the same in return.

Regarding the safety valve, garmoon wrote (and I certainly agree):
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I just don't get this. If the Safety Valve isn't for talk about many diverse things then what the Hell is it for? I also don't think a LITTLE light banter in the help threads is so bad. Do the Capital One ,Dark Ages Commercials in the US ring a bell? I get the sense that this place wants to be all business and no fun. Who wants to work there? This place has been a part of me for over 2 years, I've seen good people leave and bad people banned. If AD gets to be where there is no place to enjoy one's visit, whether it be a first time visitor or veteran grouch, like myself; then it will slowly push newbies and addicts away. It's happening now.
If garmoon's and my interpretation of the purpose of the safety valve is incorrect; if chatter has no place, then its purpose needs to be better defined and the forum description rewritten.
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16. April 2007 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm glad you are sticking around gerry and I hope that ireland does too. ddp and creaky need to stick around as well. It is all of these diversities that makes afterdawn the great site that it is...just need to air things out everynow and then.


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16. April 2007 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my reply edited out as can't say any more than i've said, in my previous replies.

edit- Loco, i was never going anywhere, 'twas just my dry sense of humour leaking out :P



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16. April 2007 @ 16:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let's hope the same goes for the rest of the deserters.


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16. April 2007 @ 16:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God Damn! This is my huge bitch! I am so f**king pissed!

So as alot of you may know my XBOX died January 14th.
M$ so far has sent me 4 refurbished consoles.
I got the 4th console today, and was all gity because it actually turned on unlike the other 3. I then load all my settings, and throw Gears of War into the drive. I then get a read disk error half way threw the load. I say thats weird so I try Crackdown. While Crackdown is loading I hear a weird noise coming from the disk drive so immediately remove the disk. I look the disk over and there are 4 or 5 rings etched into my game. I then look at Gears of War, same thing. I was able to conclude that the 360 scratched my disks.

I then call M$ and ask what the *bleep* is up. The lady replied replied "oh.... lets see, ok is your console in the vertical or horizontal position?" "Vertical" "ok move your console to the horizontal position, and see if it will read a disk" "mam, this console has already scratched 2 of my disks, I will not put another disk in unless you will replace it" "I am sorry sir our warranty dosen't cover damage done to the games; please insert a diffrent disk" "So are you saying you won't replace my 2 games that cost me a 60 bucks each, when clearly the console you sent me scratched them?" "That is correct" "Ok, I would like to speak to a suporvisor" At that point she hung up on me.

This sucks.
Not only do I have a dead 360, but I have 2 dead games.
I have been without my console for over 3 month! This is outrageous! I think the Better Business Bureau will be getting a call tomorrow!

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16. April 2007 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
every one of you bastards have been here too god damn long to let something so stupid cause all of this "i'm leaving, i'm not leaving" bullshit!!
seriously, this is crap is more annoying than anything that anyone is bitching about. just for the record, i think the entire safety valve section could take a swirlie down the bowl of non existance! this is a tech forum, we come to learn things, not play chit chat with every other bastard that either 1. has a problem and needs to fix it. or 2. basically has no sort of real life outside of the normal day in and day out, so they hang out here. less jibber jabber, more learny learny.






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16. April 2007 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
darthnip
now i know ye problem..i think..
which one is ye in this pix...

we is learning and learning...or is it learny learny?


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16. April 2007 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did someone edit my last post??? I don't remember writing that. I thought I did leave out some of the letters though. DID I? Or did I write the whole word? Sorry, I was pretty pissed!

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16. April 2007 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Darth...you're right, I isn't going anywhere. Who knows, perhaps getting pissy every now and again is a good thing.

My Bitch is for COMCAST CUSTOMERS:

This is the view from my living-room window and that monstrosity being built is the new comcast tower ... its what your $100 monthly bills are paying for. As for me, just what I need...another glass building. Philly has a thing for glass building and come three in the afternoon, the sun reflects on them and I have to shut my blinds and curtains because its blindingly bright. Anyway this what you bills are paying for; an ugly 100 or so floors of blinding glare:



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16. April 2007 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seems like a bunch of high IQ tech people got their tails feathers ruffled, responded, and now with a good night's sleep, will go on with their lives tomorrow. Let's hope we'll all be back to laugh at ourselves ultimately. Hasn't been this exciting around here since Saw III.

There are much worse things happening today, particularly at Va. Tech. Now that's worth Bitchin' about.

@gerry, you need to get a telescope for all the lovely people you might drop in on in that glass house.LOL


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Yeah, seems every time I put CNN on, the fatalities are even higher.

@garmoon...you have no idea how often I've thought of that. The view from my building is wide open with tens of thousands of windows with which to play "peeping tom" LOL!

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16. April 2007 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gerry1:
the sun reflects on them and I have to shut my blinds and curtains because its blindingly bright.

maybe you should invest in some solar panels...the saving might pay for your Comcast bill. LOL


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16. April 2007 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Yeah, seems every time I put CNN on, the fatalities are even higher.
How many is that now?

wow, I can consider myself lucky! Our comcast bill is only $89.48, and that is with taxes.

We have Comcast Digital Voice, High Speed Internet, The HD package that has the most chanels, 3 HD tuners, and 2 cable modems (one for our 8 computers, and one for xbox live, and the Playstation Network)

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@Loco...next time I'm at home depot or Lowes, I'm going to look if I can find some of that film designed just for that purpose. It's like some sort of lightly tinted contact paper ... you clean your widows really well and apply it to the inside of the window.
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wow, I can consider myself lucky! Our comcast bill is only $89.48, and that is with taxes.

We have Comcast Digital Voice, High Speed Internet, The HD package that has the most chanels, 3 HD tuners, and 2 cable modems (one for our 8 computers, and one for xbox live, and the Playstation Network)

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Damn, I'm in the philly suburbs, and I was paying $189 less hd, less 1 modem, called them and threatened to switch to verizon, they called back and gave me a deal for the same I have down to $131, I thought I did great till I heard what you have, what town are you from, and you bet your ass I'm gonna be calling them back.
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Redmond Wa, the heart of Microsoft (Microsoft owns Comcast, so that might be part of it)

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Ok, I just got back from home depot, while I was their I picked up for boodles of Spray Paint, 3 shades of Green, and Black. I bought the spray paint so I can paint the new 'huts' aka hovervill houses, (4 by 4 foot house built from plywood) I built for paintball. As I was walking threw the store with my spray paint I was getting the nastiest looks from other customers.

Why do people always think the worst of people?

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17. April 2007 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry im late. Im still taking abreak, but i just read some comments.

Originally posted by locoeng:
I know I probably won't be making any friends with this post and I'm not worried about that...just who are going to be my new enemies?

You just made one :) Lots of respect gained for that post.


Originally posted by Gerry1:
Well, I've decided that I'm NOT going anywhere.
Good!! Otherwise id be following!



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