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Vanyun
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3. November 2005 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey folks I know I am new to the boards for posting, however, I have been reading alot of the post already and learned some things and tried out solutions. Now I guess I will give my experience with back-ups.

I just bought a LiteOn DVD-DL Writer (+/-) about 2 months ago, to my knowledge it supports every format of DVDs out there. I also purchased a Flip-Top/SwapMagic3.6 for my PS2 V12 Slimline.

So far for the PS2 games I have made backups on both Memorex and TDK (both formats are up to 8x and only allow a minimum of 4x). The software I have been using has been a combination of (Nero6.6 + AnyDVD) or DVD Decrypter 3.5.4 (been using this one lately).

For awhile now it seemed to all be working fine up until 2 days ago. And seems to have got worse. When I try to play most of the back-ups I get an error stating they are invalid PS2 disc. Overall I have 3 games backed-up on Memorex and 10 games on TDKs.

-Memorex
Predator Concrete Jungle
God of War (relinked on 1 DVD)
Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks

-TDK
Need For Speed Underground 2
*Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
*Delta Force Black Hawk Down
*Colosseum Road to Freedom
NBA Jam
Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater
Dark Cloud
Prince of Persia Warrior Within
RPG Maker 3
Soul Calibur 3

The games with an * in front of them are games that used to work perfectly up until 2 days ago, atleast to my knowledge. These games mostly have been played from a cold boot of the PS2 and the only game played until my friend and I called it quits. So it could be a heat issue as to why I am now receiving this error and knowing about it since I have been trying to play the other games after I have been playing the previous one.

It is boggling my mind, I have tried using my laptop cooling pad under my PS2 lastnight and the PS2 ran cold all night but still had problems. So it seems it has evolved from a possible heat issue into something else. So I have tried cleaning off the laser with a quetip (spelling) without any success.

This morning as soon as I woke up (PS2 been idle for hours) it will not even read ANY of the back-ups on TDKs... however imediately after trying with failed attempts I use SM3 and a Memorex back-up (say Mortal Kombat) it accepts it and plays in under 2 seconds of pressing X.

I am almost leaning to say it is the TDKs being hard for my laser to read now, however, I have read alot about TDKs being superior over Memorex.

Later tonight after work I am going to my friends house and will see if my TDKs are going to act up there or if they will boot without problems. Just FYI though he has I believe PS2 V5 with modchip swapping methods.

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated as I am almost out of patients and thinking of buying a PS2 V11 or under and getting a no-solder chip.

-Vanyun

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Forgot to mention that also after playing the PS2 for awhile and trying to play my DVD Backups with failed attempts off the TDK brand. I tried loading with the SM3 CD to play some PS2 CD Games and they play flawlessly as well as the original disc. So it does seem to be atleast narrowed down to PS2 DVD Back-ups, not CD-Backups.
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3. November 2005 @ 07:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One question... are they DVD+R or DVD-R?


Vanyun
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3. November 2005 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well my burner supports both + and -....

The TDKs are DVD-R and the Memorex are DVD+R. Since both types used to work I would doubt the PS2 would be picky about what type you use to burn. However maybe all the other times were flukes!?
Vanyun
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3. November 2005 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I just bought some Memorex DVD+R 8x 30 pack tonight and made new back-ups of the TDKs that were not working. Suprisingly enough they work flawlessly in seconds after pressing X on the controller with SM3. Also with Metal Gear Solid I have no more lag during the cutscenes like I did with my TDK (when it could load).

So I believe I have narrowed it down to atleast a bad batch of TDKs (which isn't unheard of but oddly that they are a good brand). Or that I should continue on using different brands other than Memorex but make sure to make the copies on DVD+R not -R.

For now I will continue to listen to my PS2 laser to hear if it sounds as if it is working too hard (some have said due to memorex) and would need a break. But for now it seems to work fine without any laser problems.

All in all, you can read up on the forums and go with what is said to be best or atleast better than the rest. However, I suggest doing your own trial and error backing up. Your PS2 may be picky whether you use + or - DVDs so just try and find out. Also as others have stated, just because they may work right away, don't assume they work all the time... TDKs worked fine for me for about a month, after that they seemed to act up fast.

For now I personally am going to stick with using;

Nero 6.6 + AnyDVD
Memorex 8x DVD+R 4.7GB
PS2 V12 + FlipTop Cover + Swap Magic 3.6

I hope that my experiences may help others with any issues they may come accross with any Invalid PS2 Disc errors.

-Vanyun
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4. November 2005 @ 03:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Next time you buy DVD's, skip the Memorex. I know they
worked for you, but they are cheap crap.
Your laser will have a harder time reading them then a more
quality media. This can lead to premature laser burnout.
I have also heard many people say that they worked for a little
while, then just stopped loading.
I used TDK quite a few times and they worked great
I now use only Philips 8X DVD-R for all my games.
Have a 100% success rate with these and they work great on both
my V7 and my V12
Other good brands are
Taiyo Yuden (top notch), Ritek, Verbatim Datalife
Sony if they are made in Japan
And i have heard that some people love Maxcell, i think also
made in Japan.


Vanyun
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4. November 2005 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the info steimy, think next time I am buying DVDs I will try Philips or TDK again but go with the +R since atm it seems my PS2 is being picky with what type they are.
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4. November 2005 @ 14:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some info in here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/252193 might help. Try booktyping the DVD+R's. In DVD Decrypter click on the book in the bottom righthand corner. Select your burner and select DVD+R/+R DL. This will allow your PS2 to read it as a normal DVD-ROM.

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