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How To Build Up A Good Ratio On BitTorrent Registered Trackers
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6. December 2005 @ 08:27 |
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Ok, so you've joined a registered trackers, and you've noticed there are consequences if you don't have a good upload ratio.
People who have not uploaded a sufficient amount (usually 8gb) have to wait a period of time for newer files (upto 48 hours wait).
This can be frustrating, as speeds become slow, you have to wait a long time to get those files, and you risk being banned for a low ratio.
Ok, a technique I'm going to teach you, is a special method to build a big upload ratio.
Ok, imagine a torrent. Where there are only a few seeders, and a hell of a lot of leechers, if you could grab those file/s, you could seed for quite some time which would pay off as far as your upload ratio goes.
But to get those file/s, you'd have to download them, which we all know put's a big dent in your ratio. There is however, another way. On most torrent files, files are split up into WinRAR volumes. Usually consisting of 50mb. If you could get a few of these volumes, you could seed these for a very long time (depending on the number of leechers).
So, here is a picture of two torrents which have a high number of leechers, and a low number of seeders :
Also, notice how they have been uploaded recently, and thus have a time delay on you because you have not uploaded the tracker minumum to rid of your time delays.
Ok, now. If you download one of these torrents, you should pick one or two parts :
Notice how I have only chosen two files to download.
You will have to find out how to download the files of your choice only, on the client you use.
Now, after these files have downloaded, you will immediately start seeding to all these leechers. Leave it on for say.. a day. And you will have probably seeded over 1-2gb. If you keep using this method, you will build a really big ratio!
And it can be done whenever you want, regardless of your ratio. Also, I know it is frustrating because torrents which have a high number of leechers, are usually newer files and so the delay comes into play again.. but if you keep an eye open, or even set it so you can view ALL files, and sort them in the order of number of leechers, look for one without a delay on you, are you're all set to go!
Hopefully you can build up a big ratio with this guide! Enjoy!
-Mike
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6. December 2005 @ 12:32 |
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Hmm...never thought of using this type of method to keep the ratio above 1.00...good advice!
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AfterDawn Addict
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6. December 2005 @ 22:02 |
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Yeah, It's not too well-known so I though I'd let everyone know :)
-Mike
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CruzDavid
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8. December 2005 @ 16:22 |
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very nice...i see you got torrentleech rofl lmao lol dsggfsdfgfsddsgh
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8. December 2005 @ 22:21 |
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Thanks, and yes that's right. Got BlackCats-Games, TorrentBytes, MafiaTorrents, BitSoup, and Midnight-Torrents too.
-Mike
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13. December 2005 @ 22:10 |
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no offence mikeh,but those who use this method to up there ratio should be banned,what you are doing when using this method is effectivly creating a seed which is not a full seed
imagine looking at a torrent which has say,100 seeds,and of these 100 seeds,80 are only distributing 2 files,it gives the impression this torrent is healthy,when in actual fact its not,and reality there are only 20 seeds,..and will dis-wade others from seeding that particular torrent,because they think its healthy enough,and they may choose to seed something else
i personally ban anyone from leeching off me,who i suspect uses this method
this is frowned upon on many torrent sites,although they dont ban you for doing it,as of yet
there are many ways to keep a good ratio,and thats to download a popular small file,with plenty of leechers...keep up with the latest releases,and dont connect to old torrents
or just use newsgroups
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Gimpsr
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14. December 2005 @ 12:57 |
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"what you are doing when using this method is effectivly creating a seed which is not a full seed "
That's where you're wrong. He's still listed as a leecher, because he hasn't finished the file, thus he CANT be a seed. A seed is 100% complete.
He'll still be listed as a leecher.
Edit- And what I meant by "He hasnt finished the file" is i meant the entire torrent, not just the two individual files.
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14. December 2005 @ 14:24 |
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Na, I understand where youre comign from. And no I would be listed as a seeder because I've skipped all but two or three RARs and thus I am 100% complete. You've got a good point there about making it look healthy.
I could have sworn TorrentLeech suggested it, but I re-checked and they don't lol. The bad thing is, people like me who have a download and upload cap cannot enjoy registered trackers as much.
I only have a 20gb per month download cap, and a 5gb per month upload cap, so as you can see this is one of the reasons I tend to use this method. I know it is no excuse, but I hope to get another ISP soon.
As far as the guide goes, I feel it is upto everyone what they decide to do. Let your conscience decide. But I do understand where you are coming from Hursty, and I thank you for letting us know about the ways in which it can affect torrents.
-Mike
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14. December 2005 @ 22:49 |
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That's where you're wrong. He's still listed as a leecher, because he hasn't finished the file, thus he CANT be a seed. A seed is 100% complete.
He'll still be listed as a leecher.
you should do some research.....
you are listed as a seed.as you have completed what you intended to download
check around the torrent sites,a lot of them say the same thing,and a lot of them frown upon it
i should know,i am a member on a lot of register only sites,i can name a couple that stickied this
but each to there own,if you want to do it,then do it,i dont use torrents as much these days anyways
some people dont really understand how the torrent system works,(i am not saying you dont),but some abuse the system,and hit and run all the time
this goes for those who use DHT on register only sites....now that really screws things up
kind regards hursty
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CruzDavid
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16. December 2005 @ 17:23 |
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So your saying that out of 100 seeds only 20 people actually wanted the file.
Your ridiculous. On the popular torrent sites a file can get 300 peers altogether easy. Real popular torrents get 1000. Your saying that nobody is gonna want the file they download. 80% will do this.
Get a grip man. Most people download stuff because they want it.
I download and use this method on a big DVD-R or even some xbox games.
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i_suck
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16. December 2005 @ 18:16 |
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use proxy, your stat will stay the same.
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16. December 2005 @ 19:09 |
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You leeching bastards! LOL How can you call yourself claimed "filesharers" when you didn't even mention that you were!? I always allow a torrent lacking in seeds more time for others to become seeds, then I take off, but I rarely never allow a torrent to have less than 1.0 ratio. I also don't have a cap on my ISP, so ha! Hehehe!
But I do have a low bandwidth, so Boo to me.
I also have seen torrents that have way more than 1000 peers on it, more like 20000 if the item is popular.
...Use public torrents!!
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16. December 2005 @ 22:38 |
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@ CruzDavid
who's ridulous????....me?
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CruzDavid
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17. December 2005 @ 10:36 |
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You your basically saying that ouyt of 100 people 80% arent sharing the whole file. because they are using this method. Check the peers list when your downloading and you will see that theres more then 20% with 100%.
Also on azureas if you dont download the whole file even though you chose not to download certain files it wont go to the seed area whrn you are done.
You will see you are downloading bits at a time even though there is no data being transferred.
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17. December 2005 @ 12:16 |
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Check the peers list when your downloading and you will see that theres more then 20% with 100%.
Also on azureas if you dont download the whole file even though you chose not to download certain files it wont go to the seed area whrn you are done.
You will see you are downloading bits at a time even though there is no data being transferred.
Yes it will.. I will be listed as seeding, and it will say I'm seeding with 100%. When I only choose to download one of two parts and cancel the others, it will say I've 100% and fully distributing.
-Mike
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18. December 2005 @ 02:15 |
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the figure 80/100 was a figure i pulled out off the top of my head,it doesnt matter whether its 1/100 or 99/100
people should seed properly,and stop being such a leeching b*****d's
if anyone cant share what they have took,and keep up a good ratio,i.e 1:1,then they should either dont download or donate monies to attain credit
this is how the system is supposed to work,check this out on any torrent site.
this has been taken from one of the main private torrents sites as an example,(the owner of the site has posted this),not just some "guy"
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SOME MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PRACTICING A SYSTEM WHEREBY THEY DOWNLOAD JUST A FEW FILES OF A TORRENT THEN JUST SEEDING THESE FEW FILES. THIS IS CAUSING THE UPLOADERS PROBLEMS BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT THESE MEMBERS THEN START SHOWING AS SEED ON THE TORRENTS AND THE UPLOADER ASSUMES THAT HE HAS GOT SEEDS ON HIS TORRENT AND WILL SOMETIMES WITHDRAW FROM THE TORRENT BEFORE THERE ARE GENUINE SEEDS. ALSO WHEN STAFF MEMBERS LOOK AT THE MEMBERS TORRENT HISTORIES WHO ARE USING THIS METHOD THEIR HISTORY LOOKS LIKE AS IF THEY HAVE BEEN USING A CHEATING SYSTEM.
I AM NOT GOING TO BAN ANYONE FROM DOING THIS BUT IF UPLOADERS OR STAFF MAKE MISTAKES IN BANNING ANY OF THESE MEMBERS THEN IT'S THE MEMBERS OWN FAULT.
sorry about the caps,but thats how it came.....
calling me ridiculous.....jeeeeese
end of discusion,and un-subscribed
good luck anyways,if anyone wants to use this method,then fine
i dont upload anything anymore anyways (much),i use newsgroups...
so what i am doing wasting my time arguing about this,god only knows
because some people just dont listen
kind regards
hursty :)
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20. December 2005 @ 06:03 |
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Come on guys, an Addict and a Senior arguing like newbies, let's all just agree to disagree :)
Life goes on :D
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AfterDawn Addict
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20. December 2005 @ 10:14 |
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I'm no arguin' wi Hursty.
-Mike
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20. December 2005 @ 10:50 |
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Ah, ok, fair do's & apologies
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20. December 2005 @ 12:00 |
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Hehe, forget it.
-Mike
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23. December 2005 @ 12:28 |
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Now, after these files have downloaded, you will immediately start seeding to all these leechers. Leave it on for say.. a day. And you will have probably seeded over 1-2gb. If you keep using this method, you will build a really big ratio!
Mike,
As a torrent downloader myself Im going to have to disagree with you on some points of this method, especially when using TL like u are. Ok here it goes. Lets say you use your method and after 1 day (a full 24 hours) you have uploaded 2 gbs (which would occur with a 40 KB/s upload am i right). Ok so lets say the next day you want to download a movie, a 2cd 1.36 gb movie. For me, if heavily seeded, these movies take about 30 minutes to download. That leaves me with only a decent ratio for 1 day of uploading and 30 minutes of downloading.
Can you see how this doesnt really work? especially if you want to download a lot. Feel free to tell me how you feel about what i have just said.
Edit: I have seen people do this method with the .avi samples that movies usually come with.
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23. December 2005 @ 13:25 |
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That's really upto whoever. It's a guide on building up a ratio. Wether you want to download straight away is upto each individual person. I see where you are coming from, however I think it helps when people don't jump onto new torrents with a low ratio, otherwise they get themselves into trouble ratio-wise.
-Mike
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25. December 2005 @ 17:53 |
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If you really wanted to cheat, you could just do this: http://i'manidiot.com/ But, you're just hurting people like yourself that want to download. I haven't used any sites where I considered cheating, but I guess if some of you have then there must be something cool on them.
p.s.
1) For some people it's easier to seed than others i.e. a faster connection - and some of these people REALLY seed.
2) The more upload bandwidth you use, the less download bandwidth you have.
3) It's almost common knowledge that if someone posts a torrent it's their job to seed it well enough to get the ball rolling, it's also dumb to think everyone will seed 1:1 -- that's like wishing for world peace.
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26. December 2005 @ 00:00 |
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Last I heard it was patched on pretty much all sites.. but I agree, I would take it out, not something you want users to do.
-Mike
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27. December 2005 @ 14:03 |
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Mik3h Someone pointed out earlier that you had torrentleech...I was wondering...you have an invite you could send me? :)
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