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DMS4 SE Lite VS. Matrix Infinity
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caliwest
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5. January 2006 @ 12:39 |
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which is a better chip outta the 2 and why... DMS4 SE Lite VS. Matrix Infinity??????
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Yoti
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5. January 2006 @ 16:26 |
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DMS4 SE is a clone chip (i.e.fake) of the DMS4 Lite or DMS4 Pro. So Idefinately wouldn't be recommending that pooh chip! Matrix Infinity chip performs identical functions to the DMS4.. I have both: a DMS4 in my V10 PS2 and a Matrix Infinity in my V12 (if you have a slim line I would definately recommend the Matrix casue it is more stable than the DMS4; on the other hand if you have anything other than a slim line than I would recommend the DMS4 Pro).
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7. January 2006 @ 00:09 |
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The DMS 4 SE is not a clone chip: http://www.dms3.com/dms4se/features.html
There may be fakes of it, but it's just a new release from DMS. The Matrix Infinity is an excellent chip. It's what I have in my v.4 PS2. It probably is a little more stable than DMS chips. The chips are almost identical as far as features, the main difference is that the DMS 4 has a HD Loader Program built into the flash. To use the MI with HD Loader or HD Advance, you'd have to install them to your MC using Infinity Manager and boot the elf files that way. Basically they're similar, you won't go wrong either way.
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caliwest
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7. January 2006 @ 03:09 |
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thanx for the help guys..i ordered the matrix infinity modchip..and just received it yesterday..but it came without the wires $49!!! without the wires! oh well..im jus happy mah azz didnt get scammed..so i juss ordered the wires for it today.....also what diagram would i go by...cause its the matrix infinity with the blue dot on it and i have a V13 ps2?? thanx again
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7. January 2006 @ 03:46 |
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Yoti
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8. January 2006 @ 16:06 |
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Thanks Tokijin - I didn't know there was a DMS 'SE' chip. I said it was a fake cause the 'Matrix Infinity SE' is a clone chip: guess I'd better do my research next time!
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9. January 2006 @ 13:40 |
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Yeah no prob. I've made too many errant statements to count. Wasn't trying to prove you wrong, I just keep a close eye on new modchip's. You never know when such info may come in handy.
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2IIPac
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9. January 2006 @ 14:07 |
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I heard that the Crystal Chip or whatever is supposidly better than both of them. You can play your backups online automatically without having to patch the DNAS code in or rebuilding it. Check it out at http://crystal-chips.com/main/
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9. January 2006 @ 16:07 |
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Well I believe the DVD-9 support is still in waiting for the Crystal Chip. It is no doubt a good chip. You need to use hacked firmware to play backups with the CC. Not a big deal though, there's plenty of sites to download it from. To say it's better than the DMS 4 or Matrix Infinity, that's a stretch. Those chips have been around longer and proven themselves. The CC is a fairly new chip, so there would be limited long term data on it.
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Yoti
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9. January 2006 @ 17:16 |
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I agree, stick with the DMS4 or Matrix - they have proven themselves to be worth while chips. Friends of mine have bought other chips (against my advice)including the CC, only to regret it later. But at the end of the day it's the consumers choice.
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2IIPac
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9. January 2006 @ 17:33 |
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9. January 2006 @ 19:14 |
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That's an opinion. I disagree with you. No offense, but I probably no more about PS2 modchips than you do. I could be wrong. The Crystal Chip is a good chip. It is currently the only modchip that auto patches DNA ID's for online play. If you care about playing PS2 game online, it might be worth getting the CC over the other two. I have a Matrix Infinity. I almost got a DMS 4 Pro, so I researched that thoroughly as well. From your sig I take it you have Swap Magic. I too have friends that are modders. One is a member of this site, the other is the person who did my PS2. I still talk to him over MSN. Correction on my earlier post, the CC does support DVD-9 games. If you look at the bugs for the latest CC firmware update, it talks about PS1 game fixes for the v. 14 PS2. The MI and DMS 4 have great firmware. Team Toxic are geniuses. Those chips have a proven track record. The CC is a good chip, but since it's a newer chip, it has some bugs to be worked out. The firmware also makes no mention of supporting multi disc games, something the DMS 4 and MI have done for awhile. I'm just not sure you can compare it to the other two, at least not yet. You're free to disagree with me. I'm not telling you you're wrong, nor am I saying I'm right. We just have different view points. Btw anyone looking for the crack to make the crystal chip auto boot backups and imports can find it here: http://forums.psxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25224 You download the CC firmware from the official site unzip it, then download the crack and unzip it in the same directory.
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2IIPac
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9. January 2006 @ 19:19 |
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Yeah man you probaly no just a little about modchips than I do. But I probaly know more about technology than you lol. But you a good guy but I think online is a must nowdays. It beats playing by yourself allday.
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9. January 2006 @ 19:55 |
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Well I guess that makes me a loser, since I play with myself all day lol. Of course I'm into RPG's, so not really much point in playing those online. I never got into the MMORPG's. There are some good ones like World of WarCraft. You might know more about technology than me, I certainly don't claim to be an expert on anything.
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marik1234
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12. January 2006 @ 13:52 |
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Hey, is there hacked firmware like that for the DMS4 Pro chip? Because I really want it, and ToxicOS is nice. I have had no problems with my DMS4 Pro chip, IMO its the best out there. And the topic creator should've gone with the DMS4 Pro SE chip.
How I make extra money:(for games/clothes/cable etc)
V7 PS2 DMS4 PRO flashed w/ ToxicBIOS w/ brand new laser, a 400c, the best PS2 laser out there & V7 PS2 w/ Swapmagic 3.6+
CHEAP PREMODS:http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9505&start=45&sid=55e37705899abd5013604185d6f3ca8d |
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12. January 2006 @ 15:40 |
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Not that I'm aware of. Toxic OS v.4 is really good operating system. It has all the features you'd expect from a top notch chip. Hacked firmware wouldn't serve any purpose that I know of. All the chips inherent abilites are unlocked after you flash it. Check out the specs: http://www.dms3.com/dms4se/features.html The MI is an awesome chip too. I've been told by a couple people that Matrix chips are a little more durable than DMS chips. Either chip is king of the modchip hill. Peace.
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marik1234
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12. January 2006 @ 16:44 |
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Dont need to check out the features. I already know everything, but thnx anyway, now I know's there's not any hacked DNA$ prevention firmware for DMS4 Pro chips. I'll probably get a Crystal on my other V7 then, see in sig. IMO, DMS4 Pro wins at the end, with more features and a 2MB flash. :) HDD Loader...
How I make extra money:(for games/clothes/cable etc)
V7 PS2 DMS4 PRO flashed w/ ToxicBIOS w/ brand new laser, a 400c, the best PS2 laser out there & V7 PS2 w/ Swapmagic 3.6+
CHEAP PREMODS:http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9505&start=45&sid=55e37705899abd5013604185d6f3ca8d |
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12. January 2006 @ 17:45 |
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That's cool. I bet you use your v.7 with Swap Magic a lot lol. The DMS 4 Pro is great chip. I won't say it's better than my MI, but I'd be happy with either. Can't beat an HD Loader prog built into the flash, huh? Team Toxic thinks of everything. They ought to borrow the CC's auto DNA patching, but they've said they won't do it. Not sure why, but who cares? I've never played my PS2 online and don't plan to start now lol. Let's call the battle between the DMS 4 Pro and the MI a draw. Cheers!
84. Q. I know you said I should get a DMS 4 or Matrix Infinity, but I'm interested in the Crystal Chip, is the Crystal Chip any good?
A. Yes. It direct boots everything and supports all the features of the Matrix Infinity and DMS 4. The Crystal Chip has an added bonus: It auto patches DNA's for online play. So you can play your backups online automatically without having to dink around with Winimage, Windip, or Disc ID Insertor, or any form of DNA patching. The Crystal Chip is currently the only modchip on the market that supports this feature. The official Crystal Chip firmware isn't capable of booting backups and imports. You need to download the Firmware crack and extract it to the same directory as the Crystal Chip. The hacked firmware will boot your backups and imports. If you play your PS2 games online a lot, and are interested in getting it modded, check out the Crystal Chip.
http://crystal-chips.com/main/
CC Firmware: http://crystal-chips.com/main/content/view/28/43/lang,en/
CC Firmware Crack: http://forums.psxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=25224
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marik1234
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12. January 2006 @ 18:11 |
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Yea, I did use to use it all the time before I got my premod. And I think that Team Toxic won't put it in because they're public, everyone knows (about) them, so they could probably get it legal trouble a bit easier than the Crystal chip guy, since I think he(fine, or she) is anyonymous. But someone should make it for the DMS4 Pro, I dont care who, anyone, I want that feature...but its always good to have a built-in cheat device(I dont use it though) and an HDD loader, and be able to play DivX/Xvid CD/DVD+-R/RW's.
How I make extra money:(for games/clothes/cable etc)
V7 PS2 DMS4 PRO flashed w/ ToxicBIOS w/ brand new laser, a 400c, the best PS2 laser out there & V7 PS2 w/ Swapmagic 3.6+
CHEAP PREMODS:http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9505&start=45&sid=55e37705899abd5013604185d6f3ca8d |
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Soulcity
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12. January 2006 @ 18:26 |
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What's the total difference from the DMS4, Matrix Infinity, and The Crystal Chip? And if I were wanting to play my backups onlin which ypu be the best for me to get?
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12. January 2006 @ 18:52 |
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Soulcity, resize your sig before one of the moderator's sees it. The features of the MI, DMS 4, and CC are all comparable. They autoboot everything, support DVD-9 or Dual Layer games, have a built in Y-fix (so you can play PAL games on an NTSC PS2 flawlessly or vice versa), support multi disk games, PGen and SNES station, ARMAX and Gameshark, boot elfs off the Memory Card (or off the chip in the case of the DMS 4 Pro SE), support HD Loader and HD Advance, and , makes your PS2 a region free DVD player. Matrix Chips are well known for their durability, DMS chips are probably more feature packed than any other modchip out there, and the Crystal Chip is the only chip that auto patches DNA ID's for online play. When playing a backup online, you have to patch the game's DNA ID, so that the online game server doesn't detect it's a copy. The Crystal Chip does this automatically. They're all quality chips. If playing backups online is important to you, probably go with the CC.
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dgm08
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16. January 2006 @ 14:19 |
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Is it that hard to patch the games for online play with DMS4 or MI? Does the autopatching work well? Does Crystal Chip 1.1 autopatch the games or is it just 2.0? What makes Crystal Chip worse than DMS4 or MI? Is the boot rate really that much worse? Thank you.
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16. January 2006 @ 15:24 |
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Well check out the specs for all of them. They're about the same minus the differences I pointed out. Tech specs: http://teammodders.com/ps2_mc.php?ex=2
The auto patching works real well from what I understand. I don't think CC v2.0 Pro is out yet. CC 1.1 Pro does autopatch the DNA's, yes. http://crystal-chips.com/main/content/view/69/57/lang,en/
I think the boot rate for any good chip is about the same- 99.9%. The only game I know of that has mod protection for the PS2 is Rugby League 2. RL2 is an obscure title released in Europe, the UK, and Australia that will never the see the light of day in the U.S. Aside from that any one of those chips will boot any backups you have after they have been flashed. Matrix Chips are user friendly, durable and very effective, DMS chips are a little more user intensive but still simple and very poweful, The Crystal Chip requires hacked firmware to boot backups, and offers the same functionality and simple user interface. Don't let the hacked part scare you, the official firmware doesn't boot backups for legal reasons. In a number of places modchips are illegal like Korea and the UK. The "hacked" firmware is simply the official firmware modified so that it can boot backups and imports in countries where they're still legal (like the U.S.). You can find the hacked firmware a number of places, here's the latest release. : http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloa...
Also here (You don't have to sign up for this one): http://www.forumconsolas.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1213
Here's more info on the CC2.0 http://forums.maxconsole.net/archive/index.php/t-10884.html
Truth be told I've never played any PS2 backups online, so I've never patched the DNA's. I've helped several people with the process though, and in my opinion if playing PS2 backups online is important to you, you should probably go with the Crystal Chip. It has all the same features and quality as the others, and it auto patches the DNA's. Patching the DNA's isn't really that complicated, but it's not something you'd want to have to bother with all the time either.
Here's the patching process:
20. Q. What are DNA's?
A. Any game made after 2003 for the PS2 that is online playable contains one or more image files that has a "disk
DNA checker." The online game server checks your game disk to see if it's the real thing or not. Thus, you have to discover which .img file on the game disc has the checker file.
21. Q. How do I patch DNA's?
A. http://www.ps2nfo.com/on-line.html
22. Q. Where can I find DNA ID's?
A. NTSC-US: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/199101C
PAL: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/198137
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dgm08
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16. January 2006 @ 15:43 |
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Wow! You have been so helpfull. I Think that I will go with Crystal Chip then. It seems easy enough to upgrade to a hacked firmware. One last thing, though. Does the firmware look different than the official PS2 one. If so do you know where I can get screen shots. I can't find any. Thank you so much.
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16. January 2006 @ 15:53 |
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Yeah you won't go wrong with any of the chips I mentioned. They're all top of the line. Good job on doing your homework first. Most people just get whatever and end up with crap chips or get lucky and end up with a good one. I prefer the research approach. One thing I forgot to add: you need a laser fix if you have a slim PS2. Any slim that is modded requires a laser fix. I couldn't find any screenshots of the CC Firmware menu, sorry.
26. Q. I'm in the market for a modchip or premodded console. What are some reputable sites I can order from?
A. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/251223 In addition http://www.modchip.com and http://www.norcalmods.com are supposed to be reliable. http://www.Xmodds.com is another quality mod site. If you're interested in a premod or modchip, be sure to order from one of these high quality sites.
Note: v.12-14 PS2's will need a laser fix like the neo fix. This is necessary to keep the laser from burning out.
From KC36330, a professional modder and member of AD:
If your modder didn't install a laser fix then most likely your laser is now on its way out. All V12-V14 PS2's require the laser fix, especially modded consoles. Even a new unmodded slimline PS2 can burn the laser out in as little as a few hours of game play.
Laser fix info: http://www.modchip.com/ps2/v12laserfix.htm
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