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7. June 2008 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what I've read, the results from 3dmark are about right for the real world, the 9600 sits between the 3850 and 3870, except of course when you enable AA, which puts it "ahead".

Right now two of my housemates could potentially be buying 9600GTs (and the irony is that one of them has left, and his brother's PC at home has one in it!) so if they do I can offer some real world testing. One of them is waiting for the Galaxy 9600GT Blade to put it in a low profile case (an original Xbox Crystal case, to be specific) and the other is just contemplating various options as an upgrade from his X1900XT-X.



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7. June 2008 @ 12:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Creaky: I agree with that, but I wasn't going to say anything in case it came out as racist... :P
Don't worry about it. I'm of mixed race but as English as you! :O



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7. June 2008 @ 12:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha, fair enough.
But yes, I'll be keen to see how the 4800s do after being denied crossfire - I'll almost certainly wait for the 4870 unless it never appears.



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7. June 2008 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
I think I made an extra 200 or so marks from the jump from 3Ghz to 3.15 for my CPU - My score with the HD3870 stock was 10,700 and overclocked was 11,500, so the 9600GT is certainly close to the HD3870 - i'd say perhaps between it and the HD3850.
this is 3dmark06 right? or an older version?
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7. June 2008 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Correct, 3dmark06.



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7. June 2008 @ 15:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn!
could you give me the breakdown of the score (the three numbers below the bold score)?
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7. June 2008 @ 16:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The CPU Score is as obvious. The other two test how powerful your GPU is at rendering shader model 2 and shader model 3 graphics.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
The CPU Score is as obvious. The other two test how powerful your GPU is at rendering shader model 2 and shader model 3 graphics.
no, no
i meant could you give me the numbers that you got for those areas separately...
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7. June 2008 @ 17:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah right sorry.

3DMark: 11492
SM2.0: 4962
SM3.0: 5561
CPU: 2678




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7. June 2008 @ 17:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's right, BE AMAZED.

I remember when Sam and I were both shooting for the 7000 mark!
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7. June 2008 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, and I got SO close... lol
As it stands right now, my highest 3dmark is 13801, which was when I had crossfire enabled - my CPU really held me back there though.



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I think I managed 15 thousand with my Q6600 at 3.6 and my OCed 8800GT.
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7. June 2008 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and there you have it lol.
The highest 3dmark at my LAN stands in the mid 16ks with a 3.3Ghz Q9450 and an 8800GTS 512MB. The highest unofficial score is in the 17ks with a 9800GTX and another Q9450, but at 3.7Ghz - it's unofficial because he used a Vcore of 1.5V to make that speed - on a 45nm Quad?



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7. June 2008 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
and there you have it lol.
The highest 3dmark at my LAN stands in the mid 16ks with a 3.3Ghz Q9450 and an 8800GTS 512MB. The highest unofficial score is in the 17ks with a 9800GTX and another Q9450, but at 3.7Ghz - it's unofficial because he used a Vcore of 1.5V to make that speed - on a 45nm Quad?
that dont make it unofficial, its a flipping miracle though :O



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7. June 2008 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's unofficial because he's not using that voltage for normal usage.



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7. June 2008 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that means sh!t all.

3d mark is all about getting the highest possible, no matter what. thats why the top scores normalyl use 5-6GHZ c2Qs under LN2 (fair or what?)

thats what 3d mark is about.



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7. June 2008 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, 3dmark is about obtaining a relative score for your system - the purpose of it for the chart at my LAN is to bench how your PC compares to the others, as you would use it.



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well thats the purpose at your lan then. for the rest of the world, its about being the best, in your hardware catagory :)

does he run it at 1.5 all the time?

if so then, according by your lan rules, its fine



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No, not as far as I'm aware.

As for the global purpose of 3dmark though, I agree, it's basically turned into a pissing contest, given the dubious scientific accuracy of the system.



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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=175829
plz see post #7!!!!!!!!
45nm's are not to be treated like 65nm's!!!!!!!!!!!
you will kill your 45nm if you overclock it like your 65nm!!!!
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Indeed we know - hence why he doesn't use that voltage every day. Note that 45nm Quads are more susceptible to the issue than the Duals.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ah right sorry.

3DMark: 11492
SM2.0: 4962
SM3.0: 5561
CPU: 2678
oh, no worries
i really appreciate the info!
thanks,
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Indeed we know - hence why he doesn't use that voltage every day. Note that 45nm Quads are more susceptible to the issue than the Duals.
what i heard(ppl say that Intel warned them before) was that even using the voltage for like 5 seconds causes permanent damage! And then ppl started blowing their CPU's running them only for 5-10secs with extremely high voltages (which is 1.4 - 1.5 for 45nms).....I really wouldn't even boot the system with more than 1.4, i mean, do you really want to throw away 200 bucks (for the cheapest 45nm)???
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7. June 2008 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But yeah, based on information I've seen from various forums, bolstered by that thread, the max I would ever recommend going to (even once) is 1.35V for an E8000 series, and 1.25V for a Q9000 series.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
But yeah, based on information I've seen from various forums, bolstered by that thread, the max I would ever recommend going to (even once) is 1.35V for an E8000 series, and 1.25V for a Q9000 series.
so u do agree that 1.5v is wayyyyyy too much for even one boot, right?
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