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sick of wasting dvds please help
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lenabena
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22. January 2006 @ 21:23 |
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i gave dvdshring and nero loaded. i copied about 15 movies so far. i had a few errors and burns terminated but on the next try it was ok. now i have thrown on 10 discs in a row. its driving me mad. please help. i dont even care if i have to pay for software as long as it works. this is so frustrating.
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22. January 2006 @ 21:28 |
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What are you trying to back up? sometimes cheaper discs can cause errors with burning. what discs are you using?
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23. January 2006 @ 00:00 |
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As gjl2002 said need more specifics and maybe can help. Shrink just doesn't make it anymore by itself or even with DVD Decryter. If want free programs can look at threads regarding DVDFab or DVD43. Also look at threads where Alkohol explains using VobBlanker. May not need to buy a program. If do want to buy I would suggest AnyDVD. Updated for life and frequently to address new encryptions. Works in background and can use Decrpyter to rip and Shrink to compress. Also as was stated, use good media. Garbage media gives garbage results. DVD+/- Forum has info on best media. I like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim. Have very few if any issues. Maybe one coaster in 200 burns if I don't do something stupid.
Also read through guides and do seach of threads for info. The answer may be somewhere. Some reading required but will better prepare you to post specific questions.
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23. January 2006 @ 11:21 |
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Certainly sounds like the media as the two above stated. I had the same problem when I first began backing up my dvd's. Picked up a 50pk of whatever and then found out why they were so cheap. As rn73 said TY's and Verbatim are 2 of the best according to members who know. Certainly sounds like the media as the two above stated. If cheap media is the case check out DVD +-R for Newbies and DVD+-R Media forums for other great opinions on great media to use. By the way, whats the media you presently are using??
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ya, 20 bucks says its the coasters she's buying
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24. January 2006 @ 06:17 |
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Could also be the speed that Lenabena burns at. I would also agree that it's the el-cheapo media.
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semid13
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24. January 2006 @ 11:52 |
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I am always using cheap media & I burned all my 8X media at 8X speed & I don't have any problems. The important thing is that I have an efficent system with multiple drives & I know what I am doing. I am a pro photographer & I can take a better picture with a $100 film camera than an amateur using the latest pro digital camera that costs several thousands. I cheat a bit because I have a very high end film scanner to digitise the film.
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24. January 2006 @ 15:10 |
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@ semid13,
I think lenabena created this thread about burning movieson a DVD+R or DVD-R. Sure, I can burn data @ 8X or even at max, but movie is different from still pictures.
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24. January 2006 @ 16:29 |
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How much RAM are you using? If you're multitasking while burning, you should stop. If your memory is low, you'll get failed burns.
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24. January 2006 @ 18:22 |
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this the error message i get. i am using maxell DVD+R. im burning them at 1.0 and my comp has 784 ram and i dot hae anything running at the same time. thanks
Windows XP 5.1
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ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM
NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.0.1.4
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 4
Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N>Version: CC15 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N D: CDRom0
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 638MB (653808kB)
Free physical memory: 234MB (240252kB)
Memory in use : 63 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
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NeroAPI
11:07:31 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation started
11:07:31 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
11:07:31 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
DVD-Video files sorted
11:07:31 PM #4 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory
11:07:31 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running
11:07:31 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer D: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N running
11:07:31 PM #7 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
DRM: Beginning burn process.
11:07:31 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
11:07:31 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
11:07:31 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
11:08:02 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)
11:08:02 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO
11:08:03 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
11:08:03 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.)
11:08:03 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [D: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N]
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11:08:03 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [D: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
11:08:03 PM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
11:08:03 PM #18 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files started
11:08:03 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4176
Cache writing successful.
11:08:03 PM #20 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Caching of files completed
11:08:03 PM #21 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
11:08:03 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
11:08:03 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-ROM (0), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8
23 54 37 20 00 5D 6C 00 - B2 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..]l..g......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
11:08:03 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
11:13:32 PM #25 TRANSFER -25 File Reader.cpp, Line 364
Error reading data
11:13:32 PM #26 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 367
Exception value: -1
11:13:32 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
11:13:59 PM #28 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 278
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
11:13:59 PM #29 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.
11:13:59 PM #30 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 4:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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25. January 2006 @ 01:33 |
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@KCflyGuy
You were talking about cheap media giving problems - just giving a comparison that cheap doesn't means no good if you know what you are doing. I burned 100 DVD disks a week including my video conversion business, movies ripping & photo slideshow. I know what I am talking about. Do you?
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@ semid13
I did say that it could be the quality of the media too. I also mentioned burn speed because it wasn't mentioned by either jgl2002, rn73, chilwill, dvdsndict, and borhan9...who also posted before I got to this thread.
You can get away with cheap media if you burn it very slow, but I wouldn't waste my time and money on any cheap media.
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I burned 100 DVD disks a week including my video conversion business, movies ripping & photo slideshow.
Not everybody have the same hardware or software or even the experience that you have to burn 100 dvds a week. I was only offering another solution to lenabena that it could be burn speed. If you think that I'm wrong about this then you should start viewing all threads that mention that it could be burn speed and comment on each and every thread.
I could say that I burn 200 dvd movies a week, but that's not going to win me any award. If it makes you feel better about your credentials then good for you.
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25. January 2006 @ 03:50 |
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semid13.................
You may have gotten good burns, with the cheap media, but six months , or maybe even a year down the road, when you or your clients want to look at them again, is when you may find out about the cheap media. The dye (where images are burned to), will start to break down, and you get freezing of picture, pixelization and studdering of sound, if sound is present. Quality media doesn't do this, unless you have problems with your burner.
Cheap media is cheap for a reason! (not to say you can't find good media on sale, for a cheap price, now and then).
lenabena...........
Stick with name brand media (Sony, Maxell, Fuji), made in Japan, not Taiwan.
It will say on pkg., where it's made. Some Maxells, Sonys and Fujis, are made in Taiwan too. Stay away from them. The only exception to the "Made in Japan" rule is with Verbatim media. Verbatim is excellent media also.
Good luck!
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25. January 2006 @ 16:20 |
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jvc is correct - cheap media will not last as long as quality media.
i can burn at 16X on quality media with excellent results yet i know of people who burn at 1X on cheap media and end up throwing about 90% of the discs away due to errors
in this life you get what you pay for
@semid as for your discs working because you are "experienced" there are plenty of "experienced' people on these forums who have had problems caused by cheap media.
cheap media is a factor in discs producing errors!
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25. January 2006 @ 18:20 |
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semid13:
>>>>@KCflyGuy
You were talking about cheap media giving problems - just giving a comparison that cheap doesn't means no good if you know what you are doing. I burned 100 DVD disks a week including my video conversion business, movies ripping & photo slideshow. I know what I am talking about. Do you? <<<<
Actually, experience is not an issue. The number of disks you might have successfully burned this week is not an issue. Your incredible expertise in the field of photography is not an issue. And, the possibility that you "know what you are talking about" is not even an issue.
It is a fact that there is more lousy media out there on store shelves than there is reliable media, when it comes to blank DVDs. And, based on the little information offered by the person who began this thread, the odds are certainly in favor of the source being lousy media. Yes, it also could be other matters, such as multitasking, or use of labels, or attempting to burn too fast, or incorrect DMA / PIO assignments, or trying to use the Roxio INCD drivers along with the Nero drivers. However, those occurrences are far more infrequent. The odds overwhelmingly suggest that the best response to this issue (based on what we know so far) is the possibility that the user is trying to burn on some lousy media. At least, until we get some answers to the obvious questions.
If you "know what you are doing," then you are certainly aware that lousy media often fails to play in standalone burners. You are also certainly aware that lousy media can deteriorate rapidly. As an obvious example, the Ridata GO5s have become rather infamous for this, and they have almost ruined the former good name of the Ridata manufacturer, after they cranked out hundreds of thousands of GO4s which were excellent quality, overall. But then, as one who "knows what you are doing," obviously, you already knew that.
You claim to use "cheap media." I am not certain if you meant inexpensive media. I would certainly hope that you are not dealing with poor quality media, though, since you know better than this. At least, one would have to assume this, if you "know what you are doing."
Or, are you conducting some sort of experiments or educational research into the effects of trying burn with lousy media?
None of us (myself included) has been given enough information yet to diagnose with absolute certainty precisely what the problem is. Yet. In the absence of more information, one has no choice but to suggest what I am sure you would agree would be the quickest solution... the one which has the greatest odds of being the cause. Poor media.
But then, you already knew all of this. Since you know what you are doing.
Take care,
-Bruce
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25. January 2006 @ 18:26 |
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very well said bruce :-)
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why don't the bunch of you quit acting like crying babies and get the proof first before you start making assumptions on what the supposed 'cheap' media is... for all you know, he could have bought a case of memorex and they in fact coded out as ricoh.... get the facts first.
just ask semid13 to post up what media was bought, ID the disk, and post the results..
this thread has officially been hijacked now by you 3 and have not even helped out the original poster... granted, they have not returned yet.
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25. January 2006 @ 19:35 |
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lol, yeah this thread is WAY gone.
@ Lenabena,
you may be better off putting that error message in the Nero forum. Just a suggestion. I for one don't know anything about Nero (don't use it). Not to say someone here can't help is just seems yuo have a better chance in there.
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no one is "crying like a baby" when someone posts that cheap media doesn't cause problems i will be the first to correct them also experience doesnt make a cheap disc a good disc this is all we are trying to get across.
we have no proof as to what discs anybody is using all we are doing is giving our advice from our previos experiences which is not intended to "hijack" this forum but to help lena in case it is the media she is using.
it will not help her if she is being told one thing by one person & something else by someone else (especially when the "advice" given by someone else is not the opinion of so many other people in this forum)
all we are trying to do is correct semid from misleading lena as all the experience in the world will not help you burn to a bad disc
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well i'd say until he (semid13) posts what media he used as described as cheap... don't make assumptions !
and for the Nero log... it already has been provided, just no one analyzed it yet.. until now
@ lenabena...
this is what i find so far.
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Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4082N>Version: CC15
i dont know what burner that is much less find a revision for it.
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Physical memory : 638MB (653808kB)
Free physical memory: 234MB (240252kB)
Memory in use : 63 %
234mb left... a little low, you should add another stick of ram
63% mem in use... free up some memory, kill all un-needed applications before using Nero, run a defrag, clean out the hdd often.
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Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)
you have the burn set too close to the edge... back it up to about 4300mb
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Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03
you are using good media, i personally use these too, among my MCC04's and TY02's
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Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R DL.)
your drive does not seem to recognize your media, hence your burner needing a firmware update, i just cant find that burner, much less know what kind it is... looks like a dell burner..
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Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
good setting there.
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Error reading data
what are you trying to burn?
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I want to apologise for the deviation from the original thread but it seems that everytime someone has a problem burning, it's always the cheap media & the fast burning speed that's the culprit.
Yeah experience amounts to nothing & cheap should be inexpensive because due to my high usage I was offered wholesale prices for a variety of brands. I used Verbatim, TDK, LG(Sony made), Mitsubishi, Imation & Maxell. My favorite is Verbatim & TDK. The really cheap one I buy is called A1Pro 8X made in Taiwan. I burned more than 1500pcs - failure rate about 1% same as the branded media.
What I want to emphasise is that most problems are hardware based. In my two years of DVD production, I worn out 4 DVDRW & I am using 5 drives at present. In my opinion, drives are more important than the media you used & they tend to give problems very often & drives favour certain type of media. In this case, experience counts. I like DVD Shrink & I stopped using my DVD X-Copy Platinum a few weeks ago.
I am not trying to act high & mighty & I still have a lot to learn from you folks out there.
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well, with that said, i guess lenabena proved all of you guys wrong from the get go.... he/she used good media and burned and 4x.
so before jumping the gun, watch, look, read, listen... you may learn a thing or two..
i am not sayig i am the greatest... i had to learn some day.. now i am just on a different level then most !
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I agree with wilchill. This thread has gone to the wayside. Haven't heard if it worked for Lenabena.
@ Semid13...I do apologize that I was a bit hard on you. I just wanted to offer solutions. It's just that from my experience, it was media when I started that gave me problems. As time goes by and knowing what media to avoid, I came across another problem due to burning speed. There are some brands that do advertised to be 8x, but found out that it doesn't mean the media is as reliable.
I don't want to tell somebody to change their drives, because it's much more inexpensive to just change to quality-made media. It's probably cheaper in the long run to have a quality burner than to keep buying expensive burning media, but most people come here to AD to look for a quick solution so that they can burn...like I used to do.
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the one's who are truely appreciative are the one's who come back and say thanks, or remain members. then you have the one's who join up, get a quick fix never to return.
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