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Problems with The Forgotten
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ScubaPete
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5. February 2005 @ 19:15 |
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AWwwwwwwwww,
Now I feel all warm and fuzzy -
No, no, false alarm,
I had an nose full for Bear hair Uuuuggg,
You have just GOT to shave your back there Bro -
Next time, a handshake will suffice -
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brobear
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6. February 2005 @ 13:59 |
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Pete,
Didn't you pay attention to all the warnings... parents give them, rangers give them and they post them in the park. Don't mess with the bears. LOL
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duey73
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8. February 2005 @ 18:02 |
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I was able to do the whole dvd of the forgoten
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brobear
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8. February 2005 @ 19:05 |
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Way to go duey73. Hope you continue to have the good, successful backups.
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8. February 2005 @ 20:56 |
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Brobear, you are correct about AnyDVD. It is the best value for the buck out there. I for one like to keep the entire DVD which includes the movies and I for one do not like to have to take the time to chop the DVD to pieces. I have always like to have something that is near the best that I can have. That is why I married my wonderful lady 48 years ago..
Enough said. AnyDVD is certinally worth 39.00 and even twice that price. As mentioned earlier they work hard to break any encryption even before the movie industry can put the movie on the shelf.
This being said, I would like to present the forum with a problem and maybe get a solution.
I usually burn with WinDvd Copy 3 and AnyDVD running in backgound. I have not had any problem until I encountered The Forgotten and now The Notebook.
The movie seems to back up without fault BUT the coming attractions play fine. The menu for the main movie apprears and I click on play movie. I get the FBI warning screen and then the screens telling you that the opinion is that of the studio and not etc....
I get it in several languages, THEN it wraps around back to the Main Movie screen.
Does anyone know what the problem might be with the DVD Copy 3 / AnyDVD. I am useing the latest vs of AnyDVD which is suppose to remove the protection.
I am backing it up with ANYDVD/Shrink/Nero tonight and will post the results of that burn BUT I was wondering if anyone was having tghis problem with WinDVD Copy 3 / AnyDVD.
Tom
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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brobear
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8. February 2005 @ 21:19 |
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TMcCallie
You're not the only one who has had this problem with DVDCopy3 and The Forgotten. That was a big movie, so I encoded it with RB/CCE and burned it with Nero. The problem that you're experiencing is probably due to Sony ARccOS, the new encryption system. There's bogus info inserted in the files and there are unreadable sectors. AnyDVD points some of that out in the info window. You may be getting an incomplete recording and the loop back is due to the movie not being recorded. Look at the burn ring in the dye and see how far across the disc the burn extends. Check to see what size the files on the disc are. See if the DVDCopy 3 will record the movie only selection. Do the test on an RW so you don't waste any discs.
One good thing about DVD Shrink, it will correct structural errors in DVDs. Using the Shrink, it's still a good idea to leave the AnyDVD running in the background.
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aabbccdd
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8. February 2005 @ 22:58 |
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tmccallie..THE FORGOTTEN can be done with DVD X COPY PLATINUM with DVD REGION +CSS running in the background. It worked for me fine. Or with AnyDVD in the background. If you have DVD X COPY that is.
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duey73
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9. February 2005 @ 06:18 |
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I just used shrink with AnyDVD and burned it with shrink but to do that you need Nero 6 .
I was able to copy the whole dvd
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9. February 2005 @ 15:56 |
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Brobear, thanks for the info. I am trying to burn it topnite useing shrink/nero. with AnyDVD in background. I always use AnyDVD in background as I figure If I don't need it then what the heck. I have found that it causes no problems.
I will let you know how shink/nero does it.
Thanks
TMcCallie / Flintstone_Redneck in some forums such as RipDVd
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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9. February 2005 @ 15:59 |
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aabbccdd, etc
I have DVDXCopy Platinum but don't use it as I have never been able to get it copy a darn thing.
Too many other copy programs to worry about this program that does not work for me.
thanks anyway.
Tom
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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ScubaPete
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9. February 2005 @ 16:26 |
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duey73
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but to do that you need Nero 6 .
Totally untrue. There's no reason that you can't use DVD Decrypter to burn and it is FREE. If you have Nero, fine use it OR if you have CopyToDVD, you can use that - Both are $$$$ programs though they have trials available you'd still have to buy it sometime, DVDD doesn't require any money, EVER.
Follow the guides in my sig -
Pete
Tom,
I think we all have an XCopy product or two onboard but I let my original Xpress and my Platinum gather dust too
Cheers and welcome to the DVD Shrink community :)
"P"
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brobear
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9. February 2005 @ 16:28 |
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Tom
Run AnyDVD of course (since you have it). One thing I've found is it's best to use Decrypter to do a rip in File mode when I run into the difficult encryptions. Use default and don't let the app skip any sectors. Toward the end of some rips the warning comes up, something like "won't patch...". Just click OK and let the rip complete. Then open the file in Shrink (AnyDVD running) and let Shrink do it's job. AnyDVD seems to help Shrink process the unreadable sectors even following a rip with Decrypter. That should do the job.
That was the method I used to rip The Forgotten. Following the RB encode I still had some bogus info in the file structure. CopyToDVD wouldn't burn it. I used Nero with an override and burned it. (Shrink and AnyDVD corrected a bogus structure problem.) The DVD plays fine, it just still has a touch of the structural encryption, but that doesn't affect playability.
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brobear
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9. February 2005 @ 16:39 |
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Pete,
Not sure, but I think Tom may have known about Shrink for a while, like many of us. ;)
Tom
Have you tried RB/CCE yet? jdobbs just keeps making RB better. I recorded the entire disc with The Forgotten to a DVD5. Even under magnification it is difficult to tell the difference between the original and the backup and that's on a 60" screen. CCE does a terriffic job.
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forkndave
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9. February 2005 @ 17:47 |
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I backed up "The Forgotten" using AnyDVD and DVD Shrink and burned with Nero. The only problem I had was that Shrink would hang up on the guy with the green shorts. I turned him into a still picture and it went fine. The guy in the green shorts never had any effect in other movies other than slowing Shrink down a little while it was being processed. Lately, I've been backing up the whole movie. I delete the foreign languages and the directors comments and record everything else. I usually shrink the extras a little more than the movie, though. AnyDVD was probably the best $39 I've ever spent. It hasn't failed me yet.
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10. February 2005 @ 05:22 |
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To my forum friends, Brobear, Forkndave, and Scuba Pete.
Yeah as Brobear mentioned, I have been a Shrink user for way back. I use it along with quite a few other burning programs such as Instant Copy, DVD Copy 3, Decrypter, DVD2One, and Recode 2 just to name a few. BUT when all else fails I can count on Shrink.
Brobear, I do have RBCCE but I must confess that I have never tried it. I looked at it once and got a little scared off. The thing that I was concerned with was the length of time that it took to complete the job with this product. I understand the fact that it makes an excellent reproduction but just could not bring myself to spending that much time on making a backup.
I work for H&R Block from Jan 2nd until April 15th each year and believe me I have been busy 7 days a week. We are starting to slow down a bit and plan to get into RBCCE after the 15th. I know that I will be calling on my forum friends for HELP.
Shrink did The Notebook fine and I am going to try The Forgotten useing ANYDVD/Shrink/Nero. Will let you know if it is successfuly.
Hello Dave, nice to see you here.
Tom / Flintstone_Redneck on some forums.
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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brobear
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10. February 2005 @ 06:56 |
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With the AnyDVD/Decrypter combo, I never even noticed the guy in the shorts. It must have whipped on by. Just had to do "OK" to finish the Decrypter rip and override Nero for the burn with RB encoded files. Tried the same rip and fed it to Shrink and it burned auto with Nero without slowing down.
Tom
You could have been using RB already. Due to the lengthy times involved, a lot of people let it run while they sleep. You can even set it to do batch files and get a few encodes done while snoozing. Unless you're an insomniac and doing taxes 24/7, you could have let the PC work while you rest.
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Amberly
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10. February 2005 @ 12:24 |
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ok. I just read through this post and a bunch of others regarding the forgotten. I'm so new to this and I am so confused. I ran the movie through DVDD, then ran the ISO through shrink. only got so far in shrink before i got an "out of memory" message...then I tried reauthoring. I only did the movie files. I left out the title menus and extras. still got the out of memory message. Can anyone tell me (in simple newbie english) how do fix this problem? I have shrink and DVDD. i don't have any of the other progs. any help with would be great.
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MarkNZ
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10. February 2005 @ 17:31 |
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Regarding the forgotten!
Please use AnyDVD with CloneDVD2 as CloneDVD2 has a fix for the new mastering error's
These two programs work best side by side
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Amberly
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10. February 2005 @ 17:34 |
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like i said before i have shrink and DVDD...i don't have any other progs...anyone who can help me with the forgotten using those two programs?
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10. February 2005 @ 17:57 |
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Well old standby DVDShrink along with AnyDVD running in the background did back up The Forgotten without a hitch.
long live Shrink and AnyDVD.
Tom
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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Amberly
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10. February 2005 @ 18:26 |
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I've never used AnyDVD, so to use it with shrink, is there anything i need to do or do i just run the program and it will do the rest?
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brobear
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10. February 2005 @ 18:56 |
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AnyDVD can be downloaded as a free 3 week trial. http://www.slysoft.com Read the product description. The program works in the background so you just use your program as you normally would.
Anytime I have a troublesome encryption, I run DVD Decrypter and rip in file mode and use the Decrypter ripped files with the encoder program. Shrink will convert to ISO to burn with DVDD, so no problem ripping in file mode. The reason for a rip in file mode is in case I need to do any work with a particular file. With Shrink, leave the AnyDVD running even when using ripped files.
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11. February 2005 @ 06:48 |
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You said it BroB. Works wonderful
HP 7975 Pentium 4W/2.0 XP Home
1 GB RAM
Maxtor 80 GB and WD 80 GB (used for movies only)
Pioneer 116 DVD ROM,and BenQ 1640 Combo
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mrsweet69
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15. February 2005 @ 11:08 |
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okay i've read all your threads and still nothing! I'm trying to rip The forgotten. I've tried using DVD Shrink 3.2 and it won't even analyze it, then i tried using dvd decryptor. That gets to around 54% usually and comes up with an error: I/O error. I also tried copying the files right off the dvd onto the hard drive not using any programs (this worked on another dvd that i had problems with). after playing around with it i managed to copy every file except one, it was the VTS_03_4. I can get about half of the file then it comes up with an error. DVD Shrink tries to open the whole movie file and it says it can't find a file thats not a part of the disc, VTS_03_6.
I've also tried using the AnyDVD which i just downloaded today. I bring up AnyDVD and just let it sit in the background like i read. Tried using DVDD and Shrink, but still...more ERRORS! I have no idea what to do, but i'm thinking there is no hope for this dvd and it is probably IMPOSSIBLE! ANy more suggestions????????
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mrsweet69
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15. February 2005 @ 11:16 |
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i have tried everything and nothing works. I've used both dvd decryptor and DVD Shrink. I have tried them using AnyDVD. i tried transfering the files right from the dvd to the HD in which i got every file except for VTS_03_4, i can only get about half of it. DVD Shrink still won't open the files tho, it tries to look for VTS_03_6 which doesn't exist. I am out of ideas and am thinking that it is impossible to rip Forgotten. Any more ideas?????
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