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9. April 2005 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ugh, i despise anything to do with nuclear material. That bombing was horrible but i suppose at least it happend at the very begining of nuclear weapons. It served as a lesson of why NOT to use such weapons. I don't even want to think about what kind horrible destruction a modern nuclear weapon would bring.

I feel very sorry for the victims of that attack. I, myself, have seen video footage of the victims of that attack that have brought a tear to my eye.

But i don't buy wholeheartedly into that articles propaganda either. If Japan was going to surrender they should have done it. Not thought about it. That's one of the conseqences of poor military decisions. The innocent always suffer the most. Blame the emperor of Japan.

The past is bloody and horrible. The things that people who are dead ,or almost dead, did before a lot of us were even born are lessons for us to learn from. One of the main problem of our time, that future generations will look back upon and wonder why, is the genocide that is happening in Africa. It's happening now. Right now.

http://www.sepnet.org/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=507&blogId=1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4227835.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3853157.stm

History will look back on ALL "civilized" contries and wonder, how we could go on about our lives, each calling ourselves good, telling ourselves how much better we are, morally, then each other, while something like these genocides happen in Africa.

*BTW, i always thought your nick was based on a comicbook character with the same name, Pulsar. :)*








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10. April 2005 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wanted Quasar (Derives from quasi- stellar radio source or something like that!), but it was taken, so I chose pulsar. It is a neutron star that spins so fast is emits a signal; link below explains it better than I can;

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/pulsars.html

Pulsar

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10. April 2005 @ 01:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i youst have to ask you guys does evrybody in america go to church evry sunday

thats the message that we in sweden have gotten.
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10. April 2005 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i youst have to ask you guys does evrybody in america go to church evry sunday
Nope. That one is easy! It all depends on how strong your beliefs are. There are some who practice church at home, where others will go to church.

It all depends on how you want to worship really.

;)

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10. April 2005 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nowadays you have a choice. In the days of yore (where the hell did that word come from?) you were considered a hethen if you did not attend church & you risked being ostracized by the rest of the "God fearing" community. Why would God want us to fear Him? Never understood that.
Thank the Lord (?!) that the church has lost its' grip by terrorising & the use of fear to make people attend.
Power & control is what it is all about. Always has been, always will be.

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10. April 2005 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow what a conversation and they say we are dumb----

the nerds rule

"JUST WIN BABY"
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10. April 2005 @ 21:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Never knew why god wanted to be feared? well here it is. Back in the old days with kings and queens and crap, what control was there? None. If you wanted to invade someones country how would you get everyone to follow you? if you said "I am king and I command you to invade that country there" people would just look at you all crazy like. So what better way of getting em' to follow you than saying "Invade that country there for they are infedels and god says they should die OR god will send your ass to hell"
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10. April 2005 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the dark ages were caused by religion and lasted for approx 1400years (I think thats right, anyways they lasted a long damn time) during said time we didn't really make any progress with technology and stuff. Just think where we would be today if they never happened.
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11. April 2005 @ 08:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
we probably would've blown ourselves up by now.

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11. April 2005 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
maybe than maybe not!!!
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11. April 2005 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God would not want us to fear Him, It is man who wants us to fear Him. Why would God use fear to get His way?

And I am an atheist!

Pulsar

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11. April 2005 @ 11:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so!!!!
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11. April 2005 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
?

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11. April 2005 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This top has certainly brought forth some interesting comments.

Personally I don't think God exists.

I just wanted to bring some ideas to the table.

God is a like a father figure. Something people have created to feel safe and protected.

Where did the idea of perfect came from? The only possible answer is that we experienced it from a perfect being (God).

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it
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12. April 2005 @ 03:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God is a like a father figure. Something people have created to feel safe and protected

i agree its a fable to teach us right and wrong so why dont go crazy

plus whos bible is right --jews,muslims koran,budda,etc

im not saying they have a bible persay--but why do they die for their god and we saw ours is right --its a weird battle
plus the bible was written by men who was around---well stories do get misconstrued

so i dont know what to believe---but if it heals your soul to believe
then believe to you hearts content-----as long as your a better person for it

"JUST WIN BABY"
AL DAVIS
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12. April 2005 @ 04:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2000 years of Highly Intelligent People that have believed and studied about God, and you guys believe that you have the perfect idea of what God is, or whether or not He exists? Think More, Friends. You will find a good answer in your silence.

Bad things happen. This is one of the trickiest things to explain. Without going into too much detail right now: If good things could not eventually come from Bad Things, God would not allow them. Soil would not grow the Vegetables we eat if it were without impurity. It is the Free Will that we have been given that people abuse. If we loved Him because he MADE us, what good would that be?

It is a horrible thing when Priests and Ministers do bad things. But that is the Ministers and Priests doing the bad things, not God. Shame on them for abusing the trust they have been given. But also, shame on people who believe that somehow thay are not Human, just like us.
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12. April 2005 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah true that

"I have no particular talent. I am merely inquisitive" - Albert Einstein
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12. April 2005 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Linuxfed3,
Why would I let someone else think for me? Just because they may or may not be smarter than I am.

No one here claimed to know what God is or isn't. They just gave their opinion.

Personally I think religion is more of a problem than anything. But on the other hand if we didn't fight over religion I'm sure we would find something else.

I don't understand what is so important about a being that we don't even know exists or not. Most people view God as someone that loves us all. Why do we worry about it. We can't see, feel, taste or smell God. There is know danger associated with God. Why does anyone care?

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it
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12. April 2005 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In the time of Jesus,people around him like Thomas ,where gnostics,
they believed every single person IS god, thus blocking the influence of the church, a powerstruggle began and the church won !

i think the way we believe in god(not the way we experience him) is indoctrinated from birth!(familie,peers, media etc.)

only an inlightened person thinks for himself!
and in doing so, creating new way of believing living and

think for yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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12. April 2005 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Would you let someone work on your car if they had 1 year of experience, or 15? If a Newbie was telling you about Computer Hardware, would you listen as opposed to someone you knew had years of experience with computers? Can your few years of deliberating about God match the years, and thoughtfulness that have came before?

We let people think for us all the time. Commercials and Advertisements seem to guide our culture the way it wishes. The products we buy, the clothes we wear, do you really think you are thinking for yourself?

Religion, Friend, is a TOOL. I can build a house with a hammer (tool), or I can hit someone with it. A tool is at the mercy of it's user.

I feel the wind on my face, but I cannot see it, smell it or taste it, does that mean it does not exist?

I mean little disrespect, but I believe a lot of people don't think long enough or hard enough when it comes to thinhgs like this.

A lot of the proof about God resides in the persons who have believed. Mother Theresa believed. John Paul II believed. Ghandi believed in one way or the other. These are some of the greatest people who have walked the Earth besides Christ. Don't you see the connection?
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12. April 2005 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
believing is not knowing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps. i'm not a mechanic but i fix my own car(just mounted a new driveshaft)




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12. April 2005 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"I feel the wind on my face, but I cannot see it, smell it or taste it, does that mean it does not exist? "

But you still FELT it. With one of the 5 senses. I always hated that one. People before us used to think the sun went around the earth and that the world was flat. I'm sure they put a lot of thought into that one too.

But then again, i've never went completly around the world...so do i know, for sure, that it ISNT flat??!!?? All i know is what they told me..all these thoughts...time for my head to explode. :D
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12. April 2005 @ 14:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kaboom!!!!
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12. April 2005 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think that it it time I resign myself from this thread. I came to this Forum looking for DVD advice (That I appreciate very much) and I will be back. As a few have said, this really isn't the place to discuss such things. At the risk of sounding like I Planned all this, Please come to a place that you can debate better Christian Guides. The people there are very gentle, and will help some of you with the information you seek. It may suit some of you to remain as you are. So be it.

http://forums.catholic.com/

I will still visit this thread, but I will not respond. I hope I have given you a good idea of what you may be missing. Please. Actually spend some time thinking about God. Not just on this Forum, but somewhere that you can actually concentrate. You will be surprised by the outcome.

SEMPER FIDELIS
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12. April 2005 @ 16:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would take computer advice from a Newbie. Just because the title is new doesn't mean the information is.

Sometimes new is better. For example you have a new doctor and an old doctor. Yes the old doctor would have lots of experience but the new doctor would know about new treatments and techniques.

Everyones thoughts are directed by one thing or the other. Its what comes out after taking that information that is your own.

Personally I think this place is as good as any to have a conversation about God. Its better than a forum designed for a religions group. It opens the table up to a wider variety of ideas.

The problem is that fighting is more likely to occur here because of the variety. If someone throws out and idea and some else just decided to come on it say its wrong that will cause problems. Opposed to the small group of like minded people where everyone agrees on everything (no fighting).

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it
 
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