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WHEN MEMBERS FIGHT BACK!!!!
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FartDude
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15. May 2005 @ 01:39 |
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I always try and help anyone here that needs it when i'm around, But still it is annoying when u get n00bs posting dumb messages like I NEED HELP!! or "thx for the overwhelming response" (when no one replies to their thread). And the n00b bashing comes in , i admit im a bit guilty of this myself, but i never intended to offend anyone like some other post i've read in the past few months,
Some Examples
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/148004...
This one probably stands out the most
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/140706...
Here in this one it clearly shows that members dont always bash the n00bs. If i remember correctly it was some of the n00bies at the time that jumped in and helped me out.
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LivnDGirl
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17. May 2005 @ 19:32 |
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Here's my favorite recent example of a man who taught himself to fish (against his will apparently).
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/192166
No one purposely ignored him. In the short time it took for the post to get buried, he overcame his allergy to research!!
I try to get involved when people have a language barrier, or they obviously aren't expressing what they want correctly to get the answer they need. AND if they have obviously tried to help themselves first.
Personally, as a newbie I was thankful when someone pointed out a guide or a FAQ. This forum is a darned busy place and it's easy to miss important stuff (when you are blinded by frustation, kids climbing the back of your chair, and bedtime looming).
Picking newbies to help is sometimes reminiscent of choosing which shipwreck victims to help - you can only help the ones that will try to help themselves and don't panic and try to take you down with them!
That said, the hardest thing for us to remember is not everyone is as passionate, driven, or confident (for whatever reasons, hehe) as most of us.
All in all, I think most everyone handles newbies with respect and a sense of humor. Two things I find key in life.
My .02 worth
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Settle in with the beverage of your choice and ...
Read this first, before you ask for help
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
The third tab above "Guides" will answer most of the rest. This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. May 2005 @ 19:34
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17. May 2005 @ 23:04 |
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i've been guilty of posting 'search the forum' replies in my short time here, cus i'm an advocate of googling and self-teaching (did it myself to change career in IT and wouldn't want to do that again; however i'm becoming too disillusioned with staff who will trample over you to secure their own promotions so i guess i'll end up retraining again!);
anyway i digress, also i don't like regurgitating huge long replies, partly as there are always gonna be noobs who won't go on to become computer nerds as they just pop by for a solution to their problem. Which is fine, i guess it's the ppl who seem to post eternally with no searching of their own that annoys me. Sometimes these types need a little coaching to break them from their ways as it just encourages laziness down the line and clutters up the forums. Funnily enough i don't see as much of this on the Unix (boring i know!) forums i frequent, i guess it's cus PCs are so easy to maintain/easily accessible and more 'mainstream'.
Just my five pence
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6. June 2005 @ 22:05 |
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Hi! I have always thought afterdawn members to be very nice compared to others. I read the guides and try to research. However, life is stressful on this side and I have moments of panic,stupidness and ask dull questions. Pardon the description,but life sometimes seems like I am out there, attempting to function,in the middle of a warzone. Sometimes I do it sometimes I don't. So When people ask silly questions and seem heedless,maybe they are lazy and self-centered, or perhaps,they are panicked.
bye,end of rant
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7. June 2005 @ 06:11 |
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Everyone at some time has a bad day. Most of us on here try to understand that. But you will still find members that can't see that and jump people for the slightest reason. Keep in mind most of us are NOT like that.
Jerry
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ddp
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7. June 2005 @ 10:36 |
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but watch out for those mods as they have a hair trigger temper!!!!
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7. June 2005 @ 15:49 |
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Quote:
but watch out for those mods as they have a hair trigger temper!!!!
Take that back or you're getting banned!
What?
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rap4life
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8. June 2005 @ 16:14 |
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all mods are cool with me i think their cool and nice very nice
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andmerr
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8. June 2005 @ 19:07 |
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Quote:
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but watch out for those mods as they have a hair trigger temper!!!!
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Take that back or you're getting banned!Quote:
i'd like to see that............lol
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Phyco_Can
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8. June 2005 @ 20:14 |
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well guys althogh us noobs may be annoying
first of all many of oyu guys were also noobs at once
seond and most of all if you think about it noobs help this site alot because if there were not so many noobs asking the same questions there would not be so many afterdawnaddicts or senior members and with none of those ppl will not rank up to moderators
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evnflow
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8. June 2005 @ 20:51 |
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i posted this in another forum but i felt it relivant...i know that i am somewhat new to this forum..and have learned a lot in the last few months....and have to say that yes,that at first the forums were very friendly and then all of a sudden they started to get hostile b/c a newbie would ask a question(even though he should and i am probably guilty of this...have searched google)...but still this site is designed to help not hinder a person...that is why i was attracted to this site...it was one that was helpful...and i can honestly say i love this site...it is a learning tool...so if you are pissed at a newbie b/c he asked a question that should have been searched...then let someone else answer it for him don't be a d*ck and give him a smart*ss remark...what's the point?...just let this site be a helpful tool for EVERYONE...wasn't it designed for that?
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9. June 2005 @ 01:27 |
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Here's what i i posted in the same thread that evnflow mentioned -
Here's how i see it. I always try and be as helpful as i can, by answering what the noob has asked so far. More than often too much info is missing so we still have to guess at what the problem is, and what to ask the noob next. Not a problem, all part of the fun and that's why we're here. Part of what i try to do is detail as much as i can and try to word it such that anyone can understand it (this doesn't always happen as i do Tech Support for a living, but i do try to be a normal person as well!).
I myself have come across some genuine computer noobs recently and try to go the extra mile to accommodate their newness to all things computer-related (see the 3rd link in my signature for an example). Plus some of these complete noobs (i don't mean that offensively at all) are grateful for what you've given them and you know they'll go on to be of help to themselves and others in future, maybe even at forums such as this. If they don't intend/or want or need to do that, no problem, but at least you can see they've tried to help themselves a little bit first, and after being helped you can see they are willing to learn stuff for themselves.
It's hard sometimes to judge when a person is in in genuine need of help, or are just being lazy and wanting to be spoonfed forever more; maybe that's why some of us sometimes suggest 'do a search'. But hopefully there are very few who get away with being condescending or smartarses just for the hell of it.
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2. July 2005 @ 22:19 |
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ok, one thing when it comes to searching (I know, I know everyone wants there own thread on it lol) is my "500th Post" thread. I have seen about 5 or so sense mine was made lol. It doesn't REALLY matter but, I am just sayin'. Also I saw a post that said (my "500th Post" forum kinda converged to this) "How many posts have you made". lol
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