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18. September 2005 @ 11:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Currently, since many say that the problem is with a corrupted Remake executable, I am considering buying the latest version. But if I buy it and still get the same error, I might experience a mental breakdown. That's why I want to be sure I totally have to buy it, before wasting 40 or 70 bucks.
If you get that same error and Dimad doesn't have it figured out and fixed within a week I'd be surprised. His customer service is second to none.

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You can purchase DVDremake at a discount from here.


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Thanks for the link, I'll probably buy it. Do you think that I'll need the pro version or the regular is fine? I couldn't find a site where it compares the two versions. If you have a link, that'd be great.
Before buying I'll have to try and find out whether not removing the extra features from the DVD really affects the quality. I'll try to see if I can use RB Pro to at least edit out some of the things.

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Get the Pro version, it has a lot more options.

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I just tried to copy the same DVD without processing it through Remake(Decrypter-->HD-->Rebuilder-->Nero.) I did not get an error after rebulding, but when I tried to burn the file with Nero, I got the same message as before:

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WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.57 (1008), size=48128 bytes, created 12/22/1997 5:23:24 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.13
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 13c

Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A> Version: 1.01 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.13
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A >Version: 1.01 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.13
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : MAXTOR 6L040J2 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8481B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8481B D: CDRom0
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 510MB (522736kB)
Free physical memory: 243MB (248892kB)
Memory in use : 52 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

18.9.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
10:39:58 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

10:39:58 PM #2 DVDREALLOC -22 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 1183
File 'VIDEO_TS.VOB' is not referenced and should not be present

10:39:58 PM #3 Phase 115 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation failed


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.57 (1008), size=23936 bytes, created 12/22/1997 6:02:46 PM
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.18, size=57344 bytes, created 11/5/2002 3:16:52 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 3/11/2005 3:28:13 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

I am getting pissed off again - spent 7 hours encoding and am getting the same *%^&$# error. What is going on people? I can't spend so much damn time on this stupid process of copying a DVD. We wasted all this time in this forum and here I am back to the zero. Any suggestions? I have been able to copy a different DVD through RB when I did not use the decrypter. Also, when I used Shrink on this same DVD, I was able to burn it, though with crappy results. I hate this burning process; absolutely abhor it. What a piece of time wasting junk. I think it would be a very good idea to let jdobbs know what the hell is going on. During the last week I have been using my computer almost 24/7 for encoding and got errors something like 70% of the time. You have no idea how enraging that is.
Here is what I am going to do:
1) Re-encode the DVD again. Maybe since I was running programs while the encoding was taking place it might have corrupted the file.
2) Try copying a different DVD if #1 does not solve the problem
3) If #2 gives the same error, I'll try to encode directly with RB, i.e., skipping decrpyter

These are VERY time consuming, so I am hoping that some of you have brighter ideas. If after all this I don't have a flawlessly working RB, I will sure be banned from this forum for swearing, but by that time I won't care anymore since I couldn't find any help. I hope the latter doesn't happen.

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18. September 2005 @ 22:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I forgot. After preparing with RB, I edited out one of the audio channels (double clicked on it so that a red cross appeared nearby.) Could this be the cause of the error? If yes, then why? Should't I be able to use the PROFESSIONAL version to edit at least the most minimal things?
Anyway, I'm glad that I didn't buy Remake because before I get anymore programs I have to be sure that the ones I have are functioning flawlessly.

I'm sorry if some of you get offended, but DVD burning is indeed in the stone ages. The proof is within this and numerous other threads. I usually learn everything very quickly, but when it comes to professional DVD burning, just when I think I got hold of it, the damn thing slips out of my hands like a bar of greasy soap.

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Solution #1: Failed

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10:39:58 PM #2 DVDREALLOC -22 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 1183
File 'VIDEO_TS.VOB' is not referenced and should not be present
If that's the only error you get it doesn't mean anything's wrong. That would just mean there are no menus in the the VMG, which normally only contains copyright and region messages anyway. Try deleting VIDEO_TS.VOB and see if Nero will burn it after that.

This is actually somewhat of a confusing error to me since I know Nero used to be known for complaining when there weren't VTS_xx_0.VOB files for every titleset - even when there weren't any references to them in the IFO files.

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I hope you are right. Actually Nero will burn even with that error, but the problem is that the message says that it might be unplayable in DVD players. I'll try deleting and see if it works.

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Vurbal, I have no idea why it gave me such an error, but your advice worked. The stupid FBI warning is still there, but the menus are gone. Do you know why did I get this error and how to avoid it?
Right now things are crazier than before: Vurbal, I know that you disagreed that Shrink in the uncompressed format loses any quality, yet many people in this forum said that Shrink does process the file and the quality gets lost. When I used Shrink for uncompressed editing and then used CCE, I got the color edge pixelation in the black backround and thought that it was caused by Shrink. This time, I did not use Shrink, but the same problem was there. I was very dubious and tested the original DVD, and holy s***, it had the same pixelation! So the bottom line is that Shrink (uncompressed) and CCE without Shrink gave the same results. This contradicts what I have been told in this forum by Sophocles and others. Vurbal, you said that you had done an experiment and found out that there is no difference, could you post your results? I am not a pro and can't quantify quality, that's why if anyone in here has the ability to carry out a double blind experiment, please do so to find out whether Shrink messes up the files or not, and then post it. If you already have a proof, you could post that too, since some of you were absolutely convinced that Shrink distorts the original, I assume you had seen some sort of proof.

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I'm in the middle of some backups right now, but when I'll save some of the original files and run the same test I've run previously. Essentially it involves using an AviSynth filter called SSIM that compares the individual Y,U, and V values for each pixel to find out if they're different than the original. Each frame is then assigned a similarity index of up to 1, with 1 being an exact match. The 2 times I've run the test previously every frame had a similarity of 1.

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Nero often gives an unplayable message when there's nothing wrong with the DVD. Ignore the warning and burn anyway.

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@ Lumbatio sorry if I'm way off here I'm just checking back in and gald to see everybody still pitching in to get this working but I found this
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Another thing is that I only need Remake to remove extra audio and subpictures
and wondered does rebuilder not give you enough options to do this also don't know if it has been refferenced the passes really shouldn't need to exceed two I sometimes use just one. and have yet to get anything but grand results!

cheers!!

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It's just that I am not sure how to use RB to edit the DVD's. I assume that I should go to the "Input Settings" tab and double click anything I don't want until I see an 'x' besides it. The problem is that there are many unreferenced items with 0kb size and I don't know whether I should "x" them or not.
Everything is OK now. First of all, I discovered that Shrink does not really alter the quality in uncompressed format. This means I can use Shrink to edit the movies before using RB. But what is even more important, I discovered that even with 2 passes, CCE SP creates such a perfect quality that I can't tell the difference from the original even when the DVD is 7.95 Gigs (the largest so far.) As such, I don't really even have to remove anything from the DVD since the quality is not going to change. The only downside is that I have to go through the FBI warning when first inputing the DVD, but that's not such a big problem since it lasts only about 10 seconds. I should soon create a new thread specifically for newbies so that they can avoid the crap that I had to go through. It turns out that most of it was unnecessary, completely.
I decided to upgrade my Nero to 6.6.0.16, but am not sure whether that will solve the issue with burning some DVD's, as mentioned before.
Thanks everyone for the help. I'll return the favor by combining everything I have learned into the new thread to aid bewildered DVD burning virgins.

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Run your ripped file through DVD Shrink and then make a note of what each on does. Open RB and the Audio files should be in the same order as they were in Shrink. If you have the pro version of RB then it gets much easier. For instance the only extras that I like to keep are multiple audio tracks IE AC3 6ch and DTS 5:1 but to access them you still need the menu but you don't need the sound tracks to the "making of parts." To resolve this I select in RB pro "Keep menu's and blank extras" and then I remove all 2 channel sound tracks.

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Lumbatio if you disable one-click you will be able to preview and edit like in dvdshrink just switch to your teck original skin I think a couple others might do this as well but this is the one I use and after prepare you will be able to click on the preview edit tab!
also in rockas original skin(as well as uncasm's) the option is a check mark just like shrink!

see if you can make sense of my ramblings as it is getting late! I'm off to bed!

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l8nights

The difference with Shrink is that it allows you to separate the extras and view the audio tracks as well as locating trailers. Sometimes only the trailers need to be removed to make a DVD9 and type 5 and for that I use DVDremake. I only use shrink as an analysis tool. I used to use it to shrink only the extras before encoding but since jdobbs added the ability to retain the menu without extras I don't do that anymore

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I'm pretty tied up now, but perhaps within a week or two will try your suggestions and get back. I do have the latest RB pro version and the fact that you can edit the movie with RB without having to use Shrink is very appealing. I know about the drop down menu selection, but am not always sure what do they omit.
BTW, what does it mean when a user is inactive (e.g. l8night has acquired that title.)

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It means that for one reason or another they were banned from the forum for either breaking the rules or flamming members. I didn't know he was banned until just now.

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@ lumbastio hope every thing has worked out 4 you have any questions well I'm sure the friendly members here will be happy to iron out any wrinkles her is a link to why I am now "inactive" > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/5/233562#1321602
and this one makes for a good read> http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/237534
also if you get the chance check out uncasm's guide it is no longer as flip has deemed it necessary to ban the author!

let's hope the wind changes as it has began to stink in these once fun filled forum's
have fun and enjoy it because it seems nothing last forever

see you around ;)
later, l8ter aka l8nights!
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Noticed a couple of things might have been made a bit more concise. With using Shrink to make files DVD compliant; DVD Shrink will often correct the structure so one can go ahead and burn. One of the nice functions built into the Shrink program. What happens though when using Shrink at "no compression", it still processes the files as Sophocles stated. The result resembles someone changing the contrast on a video monitor. Noticable when you look for it between the original and the Shrink output. You still end up with a good viewable output though. You'll notice if you look around that this condition is often referred to as "softening". I prefer my copies to be as crisp as possible. With hundreds of backups, I've only had to resort to using Shrink on one occasion. With updates to decryption software, I doubt that would be necessary again with the same DVD. However, it isn't worth the effort to go back and retry it. It was a bad movie and only something I picked up because it was a topic of interest at the time with new encryption.

Using RB to edit is just a matter of setup. Go to Options and select Setup. In the setup window at the bottom you'll see "Audio to Remove" and "Subtitles to Remove". Select the languages you don't want to keep in both and save. That edits out all the languages you selected each time you use RB in the future. Just remember if you ever record some of the Japanese classics with subtitles, you may have to reset unless you allowed Japanese in your original selection. That's just an example, but sometimes in rare cases you may want to remember you have to change the settings if you want to allow other languages to be recorded. That fairly well covers editing out extra language tracks. Under Special Settings select Remove All DTS Audio and Remove Director's Comments if you don't want to take up the space if these options are present. That will leave you with the Dolby track or whatever is present. DTS takes special equipment to play, so is an option needed only if you have the equipment. Only the true aficianado seems to appreciate the difference. Sadly I'm not one of them. ;) Now you have your languages and audio fairly well covered in internal RB editing.

Under Mode you can select the content of your DVD backup. You have Movie Only, Movie and Menus Only on up to Full Backup. So, you can now have a Movie Only with only the surround sound Audio and no languages saved other than the ones you want. Sounds like that would fairly well edit for most users' requirements. More than that and a person is getting a bit anal. Going as far as clipping titles isn't going to save enough space to make an appreciable difference. The result should be fully compliant. In the past all of mine have been.

Usually most problems that occur happen in editing or in the decrypting process. RB simply uses one of the supported encoders or transcoders to compress. If you put a problem in, you get a problem out.

As for 12 hr encodes, I regret seeing your dilemma but that appears to be equipment based as much as software. Using Shrink with all the "Quality Settings" and RB/CCE at 2 passes (all CCE Basic will do anyway) takes about the same amount of time. I have a relatively slow PC at 2.8GHz and my encode times are only about a third (or better) of yours and that is using an SP trial set to 4 passes. That's 2.8GHz, 1GB RAM, and 2 X 7200 RPM HDDs one at 80GB and one 250GB. A faster processor and more RAM makes a difference. Mostly the faster processor though if you have ample memory. As pointed out, encoding is highly processor intensive. Also to save yourself a bit of time, you might want to cut back to 3 passes with the encoder to save a few hours. jdobbs, the author of RB, tends to think the extra passes don't do that much to help.

One last thing of note; get an RW or 2 for testing those questionable burns with Nero. If it doesn't burn properly on the RW, then nothing is lost. Once you know you can get a good burn, then record to the recordable disc of choice. Takes out a lot of guess work and saves on the coasters.

That should have you only needing AnyDVD and Decrypter to decrypt and rip, RB with an encoder to compress and your choice of burners to complete the project. Saves all that time editing and moving files around. I'd suggest ripping in the file mode, personal preference, but I know from experience it does an excellent job in RB. If you want ISO output, RB can still give you ISO even though you rip in File mode. Those options are under Mode as well at the top left of the RB window. I hope you realize your options better now.

As for some of those "free" programs floating around the net; just because they open and seem to function doesn't mean they're working properly. I think you may realize that from vurbal's and others' input and your own personal experience here. Those of us who have been helping with support of RB on the forum have also seen cases where "free" versions of retail encoders and "unlimited trials" have also posed problems. Seems some of those people who supply "free" programs do a better job than others. As a self professed person with expertise, you should see the validity in what I'm saying.

Happy burning...



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Stone Age, now that was when I started, back when you threw the old rock slab in the dino rockpecker box and it chiseled a fine output. LOL Actually we had things like 321 and little other choice than early stages of Shrink. Maybe the rock slab was better. ;) Not that bad even then once you caught on. Nothing like the high quality we're getting now. However, then you didn't have all the extras and the movies seemed to be smaller. ;) Of course there was "The Longest Day", "Green Berets", "Gone with the Wind" and "Lawrence of Arabia" for those who really wanted to push the compression envelope. LOL And just because everyone else told you, I have to agree, there is usually nothing in the Audio folder. LOL Have a good one...

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hey l8ter. I read some bits and pieces from the threads you provided. I never that such things were going on in here. I am new around here, but my opinion is it is very important to think thrice before banning a knowledgeable and well respected member. It's likely that the problem with managing this forum is due to the fact that there is no age qualification for moderation, as far as I can see. Some responses from the moderators I read made me think that they were very young. The rule must be that no one under 18 should be a mod. Preferably over 20. Older=wiser=tolerable=alternate solutions before losing temper.

Thanks a lot for clarifying brobear. Here are some specific comments/questions:

1) Do ALL DVD's need to be made compliant or only very rare and weird ones?
2) So then are you saying that Shrink only changes the contrast? Just like you, I want the absolute best quality and contrast is not a problem.
3) The setup info was very helpful. I'll get rid of extra subpictures, but the audios can't be touched since all the operas are in foreign languages.
4) Movie only option is very indiscriminate. Some of the opera's are split into two major files and movies only will remove half of the movie. Perhaps I should use Shrink to see the contents and decide whether I can use that feature.
5) If your 2.8 GHz is ?slow,? then my PC is perhaps from the stone ages! 2.8 is very impressive, how can you call that slow? I don?t want to buy a new PC, but if there was a forum in here about hardware, I would like to know whether it is worth changing the CPU of my 3 year old Dell Dimension 2300, maybe to something like 3.2 GHz (what?s the highest and prices?)
6) I agree about RW. That?s something I should have done before wasting 7 DVDs, but that?s ok, they were only TY! I hope that I won?t need them anymore.
7) I am using only file mode

Perhaps the most important question is this: when I compared an opera processed and edited by Shrink and then encoded by CCE SP 2 passes to the original DVD, I could see no difference whatsoever. This is when I became convinced that Shrink does not change the quality in the uncompressed format. What do is your experience in here?
Also, for a test, I decided to burn a DVD using only RB ? I kept everything that was there. After CCE SP 2 passes, there again was no difference between the original and the copy even though the damn thing was 7.96 Gbs! I began to wonder, if such a large file can be copied with SP so impeccably (this is not even 3 passes yet), why the hell edit it in the first place? Do you think that there is any point in trying to decreasing the DVD size when CCE SP does such a perfect job?

Most of the programs that I get are directly from the manufacturer. All I do is decipher the code for the activation. But you are right, some programs, e.g. Remake, operate on a different basis and while any program and any security system can be breached, it?s just not worth the time. I spend that time more productively by trying to get scientific software which helps to propagate the knowledge in science, the best thing out there. Remake is just peanuts.

Eventually I hope that the prices for those DL?s go down. All this discussion is because of the expensive prices of dual layer media. Once it goes down, DVD burning will be as simple as CD burning. Let?s hope it happens soon before the transcoding and encoding industry gets so rich that it tries to prevent it from happening.




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1. October 2005 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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No matter how good a transcoder or encoder is, something had to go to reduce the size of a DVD. One of the things that shrink does is it reduces the sharpness, gives a kind of softened airbrushed look. Reducing the sharpness can hide video noise or least make it less noticeable but it also washes away fine background detail. Even when I decide to keep all the extras I try to find something to trim especially large audio tracks. But most of the time I don't give a "rats behind" abut all the boring extras but I do care about sound tracks. If there's an AC3 6 CH and a DTS 5 CH then I try to keep them both but to use them you need to be able to access them through a menu. Fortunately DVD-RB Pro has that option you can keep the menu and blank the extras.

With some concert footage the extras are often desirable because they provide extra musical passages and music is the whole point to a concert. Often however concerts are filmed in dark theaters and the video is already going to have noise due to low light conditions. In such cases it might be worth while to consider grabbing it all and use filters such as undot to minimize the noise.

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1. October 2005 @ 10:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree on the conditions of the concert playing a large part in the quality. After doing that Michael Flatley Collection for my wife, I noticed that the concert that was videoed first had a lot of noise in it, the second concert on the disk that took place 2 years later was in excellent condition. Which I think has to do with later video technology. It is like some movies, those that have been remastered look a lot better than those that have not. In their rush to put everything out on DVD it looks like some studios just took old video tapes and recorded them, the quality is bad.


 
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