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Some changes (reverting back to old rules) to forums
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29. July 2004 @ 13:37 |
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I'll have to remember to leave a trail of bread crumbs (or beer cans)
It'd be better if you could make that imported beer bottles, cans sound to domestic and with crumbs I'd just get lost.
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29. July 2004 @ 16:29 |
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Heineken cans would suffice, as long as I was allowed to leave the trail. Do like the bottles better though, even though a good imported ale might be better than the beer.
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29. July 2004 @ 17:39 |
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and I reiterate, that ?kissin the Klingon? stuff might well be a deal breaker (lol)
(Pulling myself up ta my full height and clearing my throat, Accckk, Huuummm)
"Son," I say, "Son, why," I say, "Why do ya think I've got on this silly full suit on ?" "Because I don't want to get those armor-plated, brain boring, Klingon cooties getting next to my precious lily white body."
With all those wonderful oodles and oodles of secret stuff plus all that plunder and booty (and the ScubaPete does appreciate a nice booty) Though the temptation is there, ole ScubaPete has to draw the line at Klingon kissing. HOWEVER, with the promise of maiming some deserving Newbies thrown into the deal, we could consider a bit "O" hand-ta-glove holding with the loverly Girlka. I've seen her right after she has taken an icy, blue-slime shower and, in a darkened cavern, on a moss-free asteroid she might be alright as a very short term companion iffin her legs and that stubby tail of hers would be encapsulated thus giving the old Man a chance at gettin away should things get a bit toasty -
Anything much more than that, I guess staying a Senior is better than "KAPLATT."
(Yep, much, I say Son, Much better than "Kaplatt" !
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30. July 2004 @ 08:09 |
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30. July 2004 @ 08:23 |
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Is that last post a reason to limit Newbies or just to to kill off this thread?
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ScubaPete
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30. July 2004 @ 14:47 |
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No Prisoner,
I don't think the thread needs to be sealed, we just need a divine intervention to edit that idiot's post and ban him to the neither regions of the twilight Zone from whence his little scheme came -
(Getting ready to say my prayers)
Now I lay me down to sleep I pray this idiot is banned to the Garbage heap - ;)
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ScubaPete
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30. July 2004 @ 17:04 |
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Do you see there little Bobby, there is a God in Heaven ;)
Thank you, He who watches over us :)
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31. July 2004 @ 05:29 |
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Prisoner
bunij was asking to get the boot. He was trying to entice members into becoming involved in a chain letter style money scam.
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31. July 2004 @ 10:41 |
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Well that all makes perfect sense. I would like to move to Switerland and be the head of a large fun piramid plan. All money to me and none for the otehrs. who wouldn't want that.
But what are we talking about here now, Star trek. Why, every one know that Babaloon 5 was a much better series and the trek world, well its just sad.
And sadly enough I can quote any Next generation Episode and most of the old 1960's. The other two weren't the best either.
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31. July 2004 @ 11:09 |
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If the forum were to allow anyone who wanted to ignore its purpose, to use it to make a fast ill-gotten buck based on a con, then AD wouldn't last long. It would soon become choked with the posted scams of internet scam artists. Choked to the point where any valuable information filled threads or posts, would get lost and buried beneath a mound of hyperbole designed to rip people off. I kind of like AD the way it is and I'm glad that these cheap, reprehensible, little thieves, find it hard to make a home for themselves here AD.
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31. July 2004 @ 14:12 |
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Prisoner,
Was there a question about the action taken ?
I thought the thread was good and that one single idiot post didn't warrant the thread being closed and, I thought you felt the same way -
I just passed my thoughts on - Violator banned, post edited - :)
The conversation, based in the depths of space, dealt with what one wouldn't do to become a Mod. Absolutely nothing to do with Babylon 5, a fair proggy but I liked the First Generation myself (lol)
Pete
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31. July 2004 @ 18:25 |
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Definitely no scams wanted. We get enough of those outside AD. Good work in pointing out the offender to the mods there Pete.
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2. August 2004 @ 11:53 |
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Well I don't have any p'ticular reason to be here on this thread other than to say that I regularily read many of the Afterdawn discussions and I love the place. I haven't posted in awhile tho ...
Rob
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2. August 2004 @ 13:57 |
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I'm very sorry in advance for this post which may force this thread at least partially back on topic, but I was concerned about something I read up top.
'i.e. "don't show discussion threads started by newbies and with no replies" '
Umm...with all due respect, I have a small problem with that. Seeing how I am a newbie, I would like the senior members and members to read my posts before another newbie posts to it. Alot of legit posts would go unanswered if you let members filter out all previously unanswered noob posts.
I mean, if us newbs have to view a splash screen; the members could at least view all the posts.
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2. August 2004 @ 14:13 |
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pandymen! Welcome to AD.
I've seen some excellent threads started by newbies. They were well thought out and had potential for growth. Alas there are also those who come here looking for answers and rather than make use of the information already available here at AD they start a thread for the sake of a single question. fter 2 or 3 posts their question gets answered and the thread becomes abandoned, useless. I've seen some who have started the same thread in more than one forum area for the same question.
This is a selfish use of resources because it only serves the person who asked the question. I think that there should be a small waiting period, say five days before a new member can start a thread. It would still be a newbie thread but by then the person will have had time to read the forum rules and made an effort to find the answer to their question in another thread.
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2. August 2004 @ 17:33 |
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There are other forums that have a waiting period and I for one didn't care for it -
HOWEVER,
About the splash screen - the way I understand it, it would have the rules and links for guides but it should stay there for a brief time to encourage the Newbie to read it.
My thought would be that instead of a 5-day waiting period it could work on a 5-time login principle. If you had an important question you could login 5 times in say, 5 minutes and then post.
My reasoning:
Say you needed aid in correcting a drive that just stopped working - waiting 5-days would create a hardship so you could conceivably get your problem solved in short order by posting 5 times (watching the same splash/ rules screen for the 5X 30 seconds each time). After the 5X of watching the screen they would, if nothing else, know our rules.
Whatta ya think ??
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2. August 2004 @ 17:37 |
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I didn't like the 5 day waiting period for posting either but for starting a thread it might just have some merit. I think that anyone should be allowed to post as soon as they're members.
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2. August 2004 @ 20:02 |
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I was thinking like a Newbie when I gave that example and not thinking of the way things are actually are -
Topics change within threads all the time here -
A question Sophocles, why make them wait until they are members ?? Besides creating a hardship for them, what would be the purpose ??
Should we make them wait for a week before they can post for the first time ?
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3. August 2004 @ 01:24 |
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It is a difficult situation, on the one hand we have a batch of posts by Newbies that have been answered hundreds of times. If they learned search before post a lot of time and space wouldn't be expended. On the other hand, I wasn't happy with the waiting period imposed on me by one of the other forums. There needs to be some system in place to control the needless abuses and have the Newbies learn the rules. One idea would be to allow privileges, but if abused, they would go on a 3 day period where they couldn't post. That would allow the privileges and encourage the Newbies to be on their toes. It should be kept in effect at least a month. That way they wouldn't fall back into bad habits.
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3. August 2004 @ 08:28 |
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Some good ideas, but some newbies are the best source to solve problems. thinking back to why I signed on was because a question I aswered in person 5 times that same day I saw was here without an answer. So I login and posted. You might loose new members with some of the limitations here.
I currently like the way the site is setup. IF it were possible to have a text Screener, that would be cool. As in you type a comment like this and if it contains certain words or phases the REPLY button will not work.
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3. August 2004 @ 11:23 |
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Pete I was'nt suggesting that they wait until they're members for anything. Let them post right away first day but have them wait five days before starting a thread. Give them a chance to become familiar with AD that's all.
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3. August 2004 @ 16:46 |
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So, no one seemed to think the priveleges with abuse penalty idea had any merit, eh?
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ScubaPete
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3. August 2004 @ 17:31 |
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Bear,
The enforcement of that type of a system would tax our system beyond it's resources unless there were 100 full time Mods to police the forum.
With the attrition rate the way it is, everyone would be a Mod at some time no matter what his or her abilities.
This then would not be a place I'd ever want to come to -
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3. August 2004 @ 18:04 |
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Pete
All we'd need is Praetor's twin or perhaps a doppelganger.
Pete
If we restricted starting a thread by a few days and nothing else, we'd reduce the effort needed by mods considerably, the one time posters would go someplace else for their quick fix, and the truly interested would hang with us for five days and beyond.
We may need to be a little more realistic here at AD. We need to realize that not every person is a perfect candidate, some of us are S-Y-K-E-S, and some us are Vurbal?s, or Praetor?s, and also the rest of us.
Everyone should be given a fair chance to prove their genuineness through the sincerity of their acts, their desire to contribute. Everyone should be allowed to voice their opinions, but I think that before they can start a thread they should understand its purpose, and that its worth is to share knowledge, not to start threads for a simple close ended question that ends in a dead end.
Sure some of us will start threads that won't fly, but it's our expereinces and intent that seperates our attempts from pointless dead end threads.
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4. August 2004 @ 01:33 |
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Pete
Possibly it is an idea without a lot of merit. But it wouldn't require all Mods. Even now members and Seniors do a certain amount of policing of the forum. Note the manner in which scammers are treated. The Mod does the job and members do the policing. Often it is not the Mods that tell the Newbies where they erred, but the members. So why couldn't annoying infractions be reported and action taken then? These are just rhetorical questions and don't need an answer. But in the end, the system may just need to be left well enough alone. The cure may be worse than the problem. Now where did those beer cans go? :o)
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