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'Far Cry 2' doesn't want to fall into 'Spore's' DRM trap

article published on 18 October, 2008

According to a post on the official Ubisoft forum, it appears the French game publisher is looking to not fall into the same traps that Electronic Arts has with their hit game Spore which has been slammed for using restrictive SecuROM DRM. For the upcoming expected blockbuster Far Cry 2, Ubisoft has admitted they will be using DRM, but with much less restrictions then Spore or Bioshock. ... [ read the full article ]

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23. October 2008 @ 22:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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its not intellectual when one uses personal insults in a post.

i thought it was a question...not an insult:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uF0njd5oo

now there you go, the author of spinrite....one of the most amazing bootable programs for disc recovery spells it out for you....(look up UBCD)


"They turned vista into...whether you want it or not....a super tight lock-down digital content delivery platform"

"They deliberate blurr the picture"

"It will degrade source quality"

the reports claim that drm is in the system kernel....basically the nitty gritty fabrics of vista are weighted down with copy right protection measures ....

now isn't this just a little over ridicules people??
rootkits? rootkits? rootkits in OUR GAMES??

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If an intruder could replace the standard administrative tools on a system with a rootkit, the modified tools would give the intruder administrative control over the system while concealing his activities from the legitimate system administrator
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In 2005, Sony BMG caused a scandal by including rootkit software on music CDs that, in an attempt to enforce DRM,[2] inadvertently opened a backdoor that allowed root access to anyone aware of the rootkit's installation.[3] The scandal raised the public's awareness of rootkits, while the public relations fallout for Sony was compared by one analyst to the Tylenol scare.[4]
you pay for the game....your pay for the operating system....you dont pay for copyright control measures on a system you own.....you dont pay for a game so that your system can be exploited and ruined....

For us more technically inclined folk drm may just be a bother (for now...this ROM business looks mean) , but to those who use computers for work and not just shenanigans, for them to have their system crash or get infected because some jerk on the other end wants to eliminates 1 possible piracy threat by ruining our systems... doesn't make tooo-much sense to me:(

so long and thanks for the fish..i guess you were right 13thHouR:D

i dont like far cry's 3 system limit, but at least our cries at the time of spores release was heard:)
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DRM, no DRM there is no reason not to buy the game if you like it. there are sites that have stuff to bypass DRM or remove it.

The gaming industry is Getting pulled in a transition, Same one Hollywood took, Wont be long before the GPAA pops up.

I hate DRM, but its not going to go anywhere anytime noway nohow.

Just be thankful, cause it could be much worse.
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24. October 2008 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Spamual and Azuran, knock it off!


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24. October 2008 @ 00:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXR88:
DRM, no DRM there is no reason not to buy the game if you like it. there are sites that have stuff to bypass DRM or remove it.

The gaming industry is Getting pulled in a transition, Same one Hollywood took, Wont be long before the GPAA pops up.

I hate DRM, but its not going to go anywhere anytime noway nohow.

Just be thankful, cause it could be much worse.

That's funny, because people used to say the same thing about music until iTunes came out with non-DRM music and Amazon just took off with it and ran.
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24. October 2008 @ 00:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sure thing loco, though varnuls insults "assshat" etc, is all okay?
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24. October 2008 @ 00:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spamual:
because one person ranting makes it true.....¬_¬
I feel you provoked the response with this post. At any rate, we need to get back on topic.


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Originally posted by daelin914:
That's funny, because people used to say the same thing about music until iTunes came out with non-DRM music and Amazon just took off with it and ran.
Okay that worked for music. so who is providing the drm free alternative to the Original Games? I'm obviously missing something.

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Originally posted by LOCOENG:
Originally posted by spamual:
because one person ranting makes it true.....¬_¬
I feel you provoked the response with this post. At any rate, we need to get back on topic.
that response was to the person in the blog who was ranting, not varnul, that is why i am confused as to why varnul lashed out at me, when i wasnt lashing out at him.

any me saying that, would not justify the accusations i got and name calling, i know the mods dont like me as it is, but thats not right.

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Originally posted by DXR88:
so who is providing the drm free alternative to the Original Games? I'm obviously missing something.

that would be the pirates. Yaaaarr!
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24. October 2008 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by daelin914:
Years ago, people used to have to put in the original CD in order for the game to play. While you may be able to duplicate a CD to make it happen, they could easily create a dongle for a couple of dollars that would work just as well.

Lauren
Umm... this is more about the number of installs and the process you must go through to retain the number of installs. It's not so much having the disc to play the game. Another way to do what you were stating would be to make a virtual drive on your machine, so that you didn't need the disc, but that's not really what we were talking about here.

Wow... you're a mean one, Mr. SGriesch.

It's an alternative method for copy protection. If you try to read a sector on a disc that generates a read error due to a specific error, wouldn't that virtual drive idea fail? It's actually a comment on the copy-protection methods that never work and only open room for more piracy or people just saying..... f this and buying a console system.
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I didn't intend for that to be interpretted in a mean way. Sorry if you thought it was. I just meant that SecureRom is very different "anti-piracy" measure than just needing the disc to play. The virtual drive could work, or a no-CD crack would as well. I think we are both agreeing that there have been ways around things, and there will probably be ways around this one too. It's just stupid for the company to do this in the first place. Varnull is right about having it install extra things that can cause major issues. It's just a game, and they are trying to mess with what is already on your drive, which IMO is no better than being hacked.
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Originally posted by DXR88:
DRM, no DRM there is no reason not to buy the game if you like it. there are sites that have stuff to bypass DRM or remove it.

The gaming industry is Getting pulled in a transition, Same one Hollywood took, Wont be long before the GPAA pops up.

I hate DRM, but its not going to go anywhere anytime noway nohow.

Just be thankful, cause it could be much worse.
We can only hope that if enough people complain about it (like Spore on Amazon), that the companies will begin to understand that we aren't naive about what they do, and that we won't support them. It's good to voice things that are unjust. Until then, don't buy their products. Money says more to them than their customer's oppinions do evidently.
 
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