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17. February 2006 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was thinking maybe we could change the amount of posts for new ranks so that it more represents the usefulness of posters. An example i think would be fine would be as follows;
Junior Member-30 posts
Member- 250 Posts
Senior Member- 1000 posts
aDa- 2000 Posts

Any feedback id like to see what people think about it.

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17. February 2006 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Totaly agree with that DVDBack23, cant see it happening though.

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17. February 2006 @ 08:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
there are enough people surviving to ranks they don't deserve (just look at me); i think the post numbers we have now are quite possibly too low to reflect a member's true stats, as reflected by a number of banned senior members. lowering the bar only means C students will get A's and people that shouldn't pass a class will.


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17. February 2006 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Might be OK,....if posts in this thread and Saftey Valve did not count.....


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17. February 2006 @ 11:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
drd is working on a karma system which there is a thread i think in this forum. the karma system will probably do away with post numbers.
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18. February 2006 @ 01:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ddp

How would the Karma system work exactlly...

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18. February 2006 @ 05:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ borhan 9
A karma system is where other members give you points. So say if you helped out someone with a problem as a token of their appreciation they could reward you with a certain amount of points.



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18. February 2006 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds good but what would happen if u help someone out and they do not reward u with points, cause it may only b optional to give a reward, which i dont care about but everyday we have newbies asking how the current system works.

Basically i feel if the karma system is goin to work it should b up too the admin and mods if someone helped or not, or just make it a step they must take when they solve the issue, sorta like the last step.

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18. February 2006 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it is implemented then there's bound to be a few selfish people who won't reward others or will leave once their problem has been solved.



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18. February 2006 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Personaly i dont like the sound of the "karma system", however"my name is Earl" is quite funny(if you dont know what that is its some comedy about karma) :P

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18. February 2006 @ 12:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After all, how many here watch "The Carson Daley Show", let alone "My Name is Earl"?


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18. February 2006 @ 12:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol never heard of that what you jus said mate, "My name is Earl" is the only thing on at 4 am on thursdays and before you ask what im doing at 4 in the moring..don't. :D

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18. February 2006 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
party pooper!!!!!
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18. February 2006 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well if thats how the karma system is goin to work... I dont really like it... but thata mee, I say keep the current system and if people are inpatient thats their problem.

Those people who want quick fixes come and goo but the people that are tru to the excellence of this site will stay and add to this vastly great knoledgeable site..

Edited by DVDBack23


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18. February 2006 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with borhan, people just come and go realy, i like the current system, whats wrong with it??

@ddp, LOL..i just don't wanna say, well..err its kinda, put it this way, "not suitable for the younger audience" ;D

hey its only thursdays anyway..i aint a machine :P


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18. February 2006 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe we could all vote...like on "American Idol" or "Dancing With The Stars".....:-)


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18. February 2006 @ 17:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I belong to several other sites, some have a karma system and some have the rep point system. When I first joined them I thought those systems worked well but they DO NOT work well in either case. The KARMA system ends up with members that become FRIENDS giving hits to other friends. The only ones seeing any advancement are those groups that stick together. The REP POINT system is even worse because you then give every member the MOD complex. If you don't like someone you can just NEG REP them which makes them look bad even though thats not the case. One site allows enough NEG REP to suspend the members right to post or download off that site, kind of like a pre-ban situation. This forum had the best advancement before it went to the post count system. Having the mods/admins vote on advancements is the only true way to show merit where due. Just my opinion but this opinion is from actual experience on other sites. The old way was the best way.

Jerry


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18. February 2006 @ 18:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree. Should be only on help rendered....


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19. February 2006 @ 00:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Jerry746
That's an interesting proposition and there's merit to it, but how do you propose that so few(Admin staff) keep up with the already large and rapidly expanding AD population. I presume that the present system was set up so as not to burden the Admin staff so that after a certain post count you're promoted, not necesarily automatically but requiring less Admin intervention. As it is they have their hands full, so any additional duties will probably overwhelm them.


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19. February 2006 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Spot on Jamz. There's well over half a million users on this site. The old system worked well when there was less users but since AD has gotten bigger in population the mods and admin just don't have the time to individually promote everyone.



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19. February 2006 @ 05:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with Jerry746. But I think the best system would be a hybrid system of Karma, Activity, (amount of posts) and Admin opinon.


--Rules--

If the member isn't contributing to the forum then they shouldn't advance.

If they are contributing to the forum but not contributing much (yall no what I mean... little one liners!) they shouldn't advance.

If non of the Mods notice a member which has a great Karma rating and a low Activity rating then the karma is probibly fraud.

-Same with all other cases. Low Karma - High Activity, High Karma - High Activity. If the member is that helpful or that active then there should be evidence.

--End Rules--


The Mods should act like Presidents, you know like the check and balance system used in the USA. Mods should have the power to approve or veto.

Well thats how my system would work.

Thanks for reading,
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19. February 2006 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So what happens to people who have been here for a couple of years? Do we all have to start again? How do I prove that I helped someone months ago? I delete threads when they have been inactive for a month or so. Would I lose everything, as would many here?

I shan't return here if I have to start again.

Gif by Phantom69


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19. February 2006 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good point Pulsar. That's why I think there would be too many complications to introduce a new system.



R.I.P. 2Pac, Eazy-E, Biggie, Big L, Big Pun, Mac Dre, Aaliyah, Left Eye and all the other fallen soldiers

The best MP3 ripper around (Exact Audio Copy)
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/mydeneaclame.cfm
To make gapless audio cd's out of MP3's
http://www.chrismyden.com/040207.php
To check vital info on your MP3's download Encspot
http://www.guerillasoft.co.uk/encspot/
To get past copy protection on Audio Cd's read this
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/70597
To tag your MP3's the easy way download T&R
http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm
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19. February 2006 @ 09:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LMAO, hell if i have to start again im going to be realy pissed off!!, i like the current system, no need for change..the Karma system b/s has been going on for too long, no one realy seems to like it so why cant we just keep it the way we have it now, im sure everyone will be much happier :D

I realy dont wanna start aggain, it's just the same as being banned!!

Yours Truly; Rav
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19. February 2006 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with Pulsar that starting a new system again and starting from the bottom won't work for older members. In the other forums I mentioned they gave some advanced credit to members for time as member and their present statis but many complained as usual about he got more credit that she did. Same old story. Under the old system the first 3 levels were by post count. The last 2 levels (Seniors and Addicts)were hand picked as it should be. There are enough Mods on here to do the job properly. Just because a member posts 2500 useless posts shouldn't make them an addict. The Karma system and Rep point system also have their faults. There has to be some control somewhere or there is no point to any of the systems. Back when I made senior it took me almost a years to do so. You only posted if you had information to answer a question. All the usless garbage wasn't allowed. If you didn't have anything to contribute to the thread you didn't post. Now we have people making addict in 3 months. I wonder how they do that. Like the thread that started saying This thread doesn't count towards post counts. But it has over 1200 posts last time I looked. Everything has gotten way out of hand which is why I hang out on other forums now. Many of the members I looked up to when I started here no longer post and have moved on. I don't look for special treatment because I mod another forum. I don't treat newbies badly because I happen to have ADDICT under my name and I sure don't post useless junk so my post count gets higher than anyone elses. We need to start using the forum as it was intended. An information exchange not a chat room where your title is the most important thing you strive for. I miss the old days when an answer to a question came from a senior or addict you could almost be sure they knew what they were talking about because they were promoted for their knowledge on a subject, not how fast they could type posts. Sorry to go off again but I get that way when I see things going the wrong way.

Jerry


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