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Do I need to rip everything?
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bui_jsph
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11. April 2006 @ 19:47 |
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For DVD-RB do i have to rip the whole disc to use dvd-rb or can i just rip the main movie only?
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brobear
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11. April 2006 @ 23:03 |
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As long as the rip is DVD compliant all you need is the main movie. But with the compression abilities of RB with one of the supported encoders, I never understand why people want to edit so much. In case you hadn't noticed, RB does the movie only option from it's settings, at least the Pro version does.
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bui_jsph
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12. April 2006 @ 08:30 |
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okay thank you
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18. April 2006 @ 09:38 |
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I think the basic version doesn't let you do just the main movie, only the whole disk, you'll need to use the pro version for just the film.
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pazzini
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18. April 2006 @ 10:10 |
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You can use vobblanker to cut everything out then use DVD-RB. so you dont need the pro version.
But it is worth the money.
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24. April 2006 @ 19:24 |
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You can use DVD Shrink or Nero Recode to encode the main movie only by setting the target output to DVD-9 instead of DVD-5 or the suggested 4360, then use Rebuilder (free version) to process the movie.
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25. April 2006 @ 04:34 |
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the pro version will do just the movie only...... do you have to RIP at all!? I recently used AnyDVD and then used RB Pro/CCE, took the source file right from the DVD (NO RIPPING TO THE HARD DRIVE!). I didn't know you can do that and it worked fine! So if you take this thread title litterally, then the answer is: You don't have to do any ripping at all when you have a great product like AnyDVD!
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brobear
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26. April 2006 @ 21:38 |
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You can do it straight from the DVD with RB, but with the transfer rate of a DVD drive compared to a hard drive, you lose a lot of time. Do a time trial if you need to prove it to yourself, do an RB backup from DVD and then from a source on the hard drive. Some things that can be done still end up being a waste of time.
RB is so good, it's often a waste of time to edit. Even the free version lets the user select languages and audio tracks. I don't guess jdobbs wants to give everything away. If one likes RB, then spring for the RB Pro. The bells and whistles are worth it. I like having them, even if I don't use them all the time. ;)
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27. April 2006 @ 04:21 |
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I'll have to do a time test to try that out. I'll also include the time it takes to rip the DVD to the drive..... sometimes about 12-18mins. So that will have to be considered, too.
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brobear
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27. April 2006 @ 19:18 |
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Of course the rip time should be included. You should still see a noticable time difference working from the HDD with RB.
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bui_jsph
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28. April 2006 @ 15:30 |
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Thank you IHoe you have answered my question the way I wanted. Thank you very much.
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brobear
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28. April 2006 @ 17:39 |
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Thank you IHoe you have answered my question the way I wanted. Thank you very much.
I'm glad IHoe was able to furnish the information you needed. For future reference, what was it that you needed to know that I somehow missed? I like to learn from my mistakes.
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28. April 2006 @ 19:24 |
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you're so funny BroBear..... I learned so much from YOU!~ So if I get a compliment.... it's really because I learned from the masters, all before me! And I didn't do much at all...... as I said.... I learned from YOU!
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L8ter
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29. April 2006 @ 05:56 |
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since most hd's have sata connections these day's and most drives have ide connections (at least mine) some newer drives are 16x read speeds they are catching up. but you will not get the speeds out of your DVD-RW that your hd is capable of.
if you do not get buffer/cache overrun's you will be fine but if one or the other outpaces the other you will be serving drinks on your nice new shiny coasters, plus editing is out of the ?.
@ brobear do you ever get a cramp typing?? :-)
here is a summary......
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do i have to rip the whole disc to use dvd-rb or can i just rip the main movie only?
yes you can encode directly from your DVD-RW.
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brobear
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29. April 2006 @ 06:28 |
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For DVD-RB do i have to rip the whole disc to use dvd-rb or can i just rip the main movie only?
LOL To answer the question exactly as asked without adding any superfluous remarks; you can just rip the main movie only as long as it is kept compliant.
Question: Can I? Answer: You can.
As for the first part of the question do i have to rip the whole disc, the answer is no.
IHoe
You deserve your compliments and keep up the good work. I was just asking bui_jsph if I need to be a bit more clairvoyant with my answers. LOL By the way, how did that time test come out?
L8
It would be nice if I could get the 16X read speeds on the DVD movies. As IHoe pointed out earlier, some discs take nearly 20 minutes. Monitoring read speads, I seldom go over 8X. That's one of the options I still keep DVD Decrypter around for, it gives read time plus the over all average. Even without buffer overruns, the optical drives can't handle data as fast as the hard drives. With RB, especially with CCE (where the data has to be analyzed more than once) the use of the hard drive for the source is faster. We noticed earlier in beta testing RB that HDD files were preferable.
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L8ter
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29. April 2006 @ 07:07 |
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since the new build I've noticed a sever drop in rip times reaching speeds of nearly 14x (on clean disks), resulting in like 8 min rips since it takes a while to spin up to speed.
I've failed to comment on this because I've not had the time or knowledge to pinpoint the reason, it's the only ide channel I have connected and no slaves??.
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We noticed earlier in beta testing RB that HDD files were preferable.
yes our pioneering forefathers put in good work. (even though I love to pick it apart,:} ) I alway's turn to passed down knowledge to cure what ails me.
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brobear
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29. April 2006 @ 07:29 |
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since the new build I've noticed a sever drop in rip times reaching speeds of nearly 14x (on clean disks), resulting in like 8 min rips since it takes a while to spin up to speed
Now you've gone and lost me. New build in what that dropped rip times?
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bui_jsph
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29. April 2006 @ 07:54 |
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brobear
Sorry, but being the newbie I am, I just didn't understand what your statement of "As long as the rip is DVD compliant all you need is the main movie." So that is why I took IHoe's advice.
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brobear
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29. April 2006 @ 08:39 |
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No problem. But if you don't understand something, feel free to ask. Saying DVD compliant means that the files you rip have to be in a recordable and playable form. Without getting complicated, burner apps won't burn noncompliant files and RB has a tendency to stop in rebuild.
I was just saying be safe in the way you do a movie only rip. DVD Shrink is an easy method if that's what you want to do. Use it in Re-author with "no compression" and rip the movie only to the HD and then open with RB. As has been mentioned, the RB Pro has the movie only option.
Unless you have a huge project, I wouldn't worry about the extra steps. What I added is that RB can easily compress most DVDs with a single language and audio selection without any need of editing. I have a 60" TV and I have no problems with the compressed video output. The family can't tell the difference between watching the original and the backup.
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L8ter
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29. April 2006 @ 09:08 |
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dvd format is governed by a set of guidelines & measures set forth by the dvd consortium some years ago. compliance to these rules is not strictly stuck to by all, but to ensure that all players will read the content presented by the disk it's best to stay compliant.
here is a link to some more (useless) info :) >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Forum
here's another >>
http://www.dvdforum.org/forum.shtml
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bui_jsph
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29. April 2006 @ 09:11 |
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Thanks a lot brobear I"ll use the DVD Shrink method now because I've never used it before but it sounds real easy. :-)
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brobear
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29. April 2006 @ 09:28 |
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You're welcome. In Help in the DVD Shrink you'll find listings for guides, the links are still good. Some are better than others and some are comprehensive while others are quick guides. No problem getting help with it either, there's a Shrink section here at AD.
Just for the sake of experimentation, try a backup with RB for a "movie only" and then do one of the complete DVD with your language selection for audio and subtitles, and with one audio source, either Dolby or DTS (if applicable). Then let us know what your impressions are on the difference. That will only cost the time and price of one disc. L8 will be glad to reimburse you. LOL
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29. April 2006 @ 09:34 |
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@Brobear........ I didn't have the time yet to test out the diff from ripped and non ripped DVD-RB times. I might do that tomorrow, just for the heck of it! And I also want to do a multiple encoding using ProCoder. L8ter said that there should be an increase in encoding speeds! I will check out the quality, too... is there a big difference between CCE and ProCoder?
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brobear
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29. April 2006 @ 10:25 |
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No great differences that I've noticed. Some people say that ProCoder is better with interleaved sources. CCE is faster as well as being an excellent encoder, so I've stuck with it. The multiple encoder set up is faster, though not with CCE; or it wasn't the last time I noticed it being tested. With dual processors, the multiple encoding is better than with single core dual channel with hyperthreading.
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29. April 2006 @ 10:51 |
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thanks....... I'll just have to test it out on my system and see which way give better quality and faster times or just stick to what I was doing! ahhhhhhhhh the experiment........ IT'S ALIVE!!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!!
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