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DVD Shrink freezing/crashing
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PatHL
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1. May 2006 @ 07:51 |
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After installing DVDShrink (v3.2) I've used it once successfully shrinking a set of VOB-files, but I don't seem to be able to run/use it again. Once it is done with the initial analyze of the VOB files (from disc or HD), it freezes/crashes when it tries to show the summary page. The only way out at this point is to reboot, since I can't even access the Task Manager at that point.
Has anyone encountered this problem before?
-- PatHL.
p.s.: I'm using Win2000.
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laddyboy
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1. May 2006 @ 07:59 |
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Uninstall the current version, restart your system, and then reinstall a fresh copy. The program may be corrupted. It is also possible that the file Shrink is analyzing is also corrupted in some way due to copy protection, etc. Are you using AnyDVD or DVDFab Decrypter for ripping from the DVD? Are you backing up a commercial DVD?
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PatHL
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1. May 2006 @ 08:42 |
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I'm using DVDdecrypter to decrypt the DVD first and saving the VOB files on the HD. I'm backing up a typical Hollywood movie.
I've noticed the freezing also with version 3.1, and I thought it was gone away with 3.2, but apparently not.
I can try reinstalling DVD-shrink again, but somehow I have my doubts. The only difference I can think of between the time that worked and now is that previously (when it worked) I used DVDFab to first decrypt the DVD. This time (when it froze) I have used DVDdecrypter as indicated above. I didn't think there is a difference in the result between them when decrypting files, is there?
-- PatHL.
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laddyboy
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1. May 2006 @ 09:19 |
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Both decrypt, but DVDFab Decrypter can handle some of the newer protection schemes that DVD Decrypter requires manual help in doing. That's why I inquired whether you were using AnyDVD as it runs in the background and does all of the decrypting, etc., making the DVD appear totally unprotected to other programs. I don't know the title you're backing up but it is possible it's protected and that's causing the problem. It may also be slightly non DVD compliant and you may need to run it through VOB Blanker or FixVTS to clean it up. If DVDFab Decrypter works for you then use that to rip.
One last note. Sometimes DVD Shrink will hang when there are communication problems on the bus.
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LRD
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1. May 2006 @ 12:48 |
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Madagascar made my DvDShrink crash because of the protection. When I ran it through VOB Blanker everything was fine.
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PatHL
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2. May 2006 @ 16:41 |
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Laddyboy,
Appreciate your insightful comments/suggestions. I tried couple things out and none seemed to work. As an example, I tried to backup "Good Night, and Good Luck" using DVDFab. If you extract the main movie alone, it is small enough to fit on a single DVD, so you wouldn't actually need DVD Shrink. But out of curiosity, I loaded the video-files into DVD Shrink to see what happens, and ... the same happened as I indicated in my earlier post, DVD Shrink crashed. It runs a first analyze of the movie, and when just when it is about to show the summary page after the analysis, it freezes and nothing will work except rebooting. I tried the same after re-installing Shrink DVD -- with the same result.
I still haven't tried out using VOB blanker. Perhaps this helps, but I'll find out later tonight.
Provided VOB blanker doesn't work either, my guess at this time is that is has something to do with what you mentioned with DVD Shrink crashing when there is a communication problem on the bus. I'm not sure exactly what you mean with "communication problem on the bus", so it would be great if you could a bit elaborate on this. But the crashing with DVD Shrink reminds me a lot of a problem I USED to have with WinAmp and RealPlayer. The desktop PC I'm having DVD-shrink (and WinAmp and RealPlayer) installed used to be hooked up to a cable broadband Internet connection. When it was connected to the Internet in the past, WinAmp and RealPlayers would always crash when playing mpeg2 or AVI-files (very similarly as I see with DVD-shrink, everything freezes and the only way out being a reboot).
Today due to logistical reasons I have the PC unhooked from the Internet as a stand-alone machine. There is only a router that allows me to hook up a laptop to the desktop (I typically download applications such as DVD Shrink from the Internet to the laptop wirelessly and then transfer it to the desktop via the router). It was by accident that I found out that the desktop PC not being hooked up to the Internet, Winamp and Realplayers work fine and doesn't crash anymore. But DVD Shrink continues to crash, regardless if the machine is hooked up to broadband or not. Nonetheless, I wonder if the two problems are somehow related as they seemed to have a similar pattern of crashing.
Does that perhaps trigger any insights or comments? Any ideas, perspectives or suggestions would be appreciated.
-- PatHL.
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laddyboy
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2. May 2006 @ 16:58 |
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I think there's a conflict somewhere in your system. It's probably going to be difficult to track down. It could be a bad communication cable, conflicting drivers, or even conflicting software.
What is your output target set to in DVD Shrink? Is it an ISO image file, a viseo folder on the hard disk, an ISO image and burning by DVD Decrypter, etc.
Try using Nero Recode. It's part of the Nero suite of programs. It's very similar to DVD Shrink as it was written by the same person. If you don't have Nero, a free trial is available.
http://nero.com
If Nero Recode works then at least the problem is isolated with DVD Shrink. Otherwise if Recode crashes, it's a larger problem maybe requiring a system rebuild to cleanup.
How much memory does your system have and how much hard drive space is available?
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PatHL
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2. May 2006 @ 17:38 |
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Laddyboy,
My output target set to in DVD Shrink is such that is burns the shrunken result directly onto the disc using Nero 6.0. I think there is an item in DVD Shrink that allows me to set the output and I've chosen burning to disc using Nero.
There should be enough space on my HD, around 12 GB. I think there is about 256K RAM on that computer the DVD Shrink is installed. I know, it's kinda low, but so far I never had problem with any other applications.
I'll try in the meantime the VOB blanker and the Nero Recode. Thanks again for your insights.
-- PatHL.
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dubs
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3. May 2006 @ 18:38 |
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i'm having truble with the DVD Shrink, i can open the disc and choose the Backup but when it goes to compress it the program stops for a min and then pops up and saids it will take 400+ hours to do it. This has happened in the past and i just down load a new copy but even when i do that this time it does not help. any ideas?
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laddyboy
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4. May 2006 @ 05:12 |
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Are you sure it's not just copy protection that is messing up DVD Shrink? Are you processing directly from the DVD or ripping with DVD Decrypter or DVDFab Decrypter to the hard disk and then using DVD Shrink? Are you using AnyDVD?
If you're processing directly from the DVD and not using AnyDVD, try ripping to your hard drive with DVDFab Decrypter and then using DVD Shrink to open the video files for processing.
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PatHL
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5. May 2006 @ 10:12 |
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Laddyboy,
I've installed and tried using Nero Recode (I have Nero 6.0 so I could just extend the installation) and it does virtually the same thing as DVD Shrink, it pre-analyzes the files and then crashes. But as a result, now all other software that used to work for viewing mpeg or avi-files (e.g. WinAmp) crash as well (which used to work before I installed Nero Recode). Now the applications continue to crash even after uninstalling Nero Recode.
So, I'm a bit at loss here what to do. I still haven't tried out cleanning the VOB files, but aside from that, I'm scratching my head.
-- PatHL.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5. May 2006 @ 10:13
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laddyboy
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5. May 2006 @ 13:53 |
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It seems to be a systemwide problem affecting all programs. Quite honestly, I would reinstall my complete system. I would backup any data files that I had, reformat your disk, and then reinstall the OS and all programs. I do this twice a year as preventative maintenance. It's a hassle but I do it while watching TV or doing something else that has me tethered to the house. It's the only sure way of getting rid of garbage that's accumulated in the operating system with startup items, etc.
There is a Nero Clean Tool that will remove all vestiges of Nero. It's at the Nero site.
Nero.com/nero7/enu/Clean_Tools.html" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://ww2.Nero.com/nero7/enu/Clean_Tools.html
There is also one for Nero 6. I don't know whcih version you installed.
I hope you didn't install Nero's InCD. That program can cause loads of problems. Definitely uninstall that one. Do you have Roxio's DVD software installed? That can also cause problems with some programs.
You might also check the fragmentation on your HDD. Right click on disk icon in My Computer window and select Properties, then click the Tools tab, and then Defragment Now... button. Select the drive and then the Analyze button. It'll do a quick analysis and either recommend or not defragging. I don't think this is the problem, but you never know.
If you haven't rebuilt your system in a while, I'd do that anyway. It's also a good way of eliminating all the things that have crept into your system over time that are unnecessary and unwanted as well. It may not solve the problem, but your system will be as close to virgin as possible, which is a good starting point. The culprit is likely a corrupted driver (disk, video).
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