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Plawton
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 09:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi chaps,

Wondering whether anyone can recommend a good, reliable DVD burner (possibly dual layer) to replace my DW U18-A Sony burner. I've read the Sony is not the most reliable burner, and reckon it must be behind the stuttering and occassional freezes that I'm experiencing.

Ripped files play back perfectly in winDvd. Also have the latest version of shrink, use good-quality Ridisc media. Have up to date Nero - and told it the disc is slightly smaller than it actually is having read that errors can often occur near the edges of discs/at the end of films. I've slowed down the burn rate and leave the computer to its own devices when burning. It must be the Sony burner right?

Have windows XP 2002, AMD 64 3200, dedicated serial ata drive for burning, 1g of ddr ram
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LOCOENG
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would suggest the NEC 3550, BenQ 1650/1655 or Plextor 716A.

Before you chuck your old drive, lets have a look at your Nero log and see if there are any clues to your problems there.

Nero 6 history log location: Program Files>Ahead>Nero>NeroHistory.txt

Nero 7 history log location: Program Files>Nero>Nero 7>Core>NeroHistory.txt


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bilbo65
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Or,...media.....
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gurnard
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 16:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Plawton hi :)
not a lot wrong with a SONY DVD RW DW-U18A (it is infact a rebadged LITE-ON )
use one myself , even have one in the cupboard if this one packs up

for D/L and 16x media i have a LITE-ON DVD RW SOHW-1693s can't fault it yet

as bilbo65 says media sounds more like it. Ridisc use varius suppliers for their media. so if you haven't got it already download DVDIdentifier from the link in my sig and post the ID
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chewbkka
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had a sony but replace it with a benq 1620 and I use verbatim R+ 16x discs and I love it. I called Sony support but they were useless.
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pepsimaxx
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay...im looking into getting a new burner i would need it to be abled to burn up to a x16 or x8 even...but DVD-R that is. i have a Nu-Tech burner now....not so good...burns to x4 and x2 media..i dont even think they sell x2 media ....any suggestions anyone?

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uponthis
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 22:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pepsimaxx,
I would suggest the BenQ 1650. I told my friend to get this(from newegg.com) and i installed it in her puter. It runs smooth and does it's job nicely! I wish i had that instead of my NEC 3550a now! (maily because of bitsetting, i know why now.)
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Plawton
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_ 		28. May 2006 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks very much for your replies everyone.

I'll get on to a Nero log and ID for my media later on today and post them up....taking care of the little one at the moment...

Hope the discs are okay - made a rather large bulk purchase of them on a good recommendation!

Thanks again
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Plawton
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 01:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi LOCOENG,

Here's the Nero log...

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 22/07/2004 17:33:44
Nero version: 6.3.1.25
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DW-U18A> Version: UYS1 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.3.1.25
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <SONY CD-RW CRX230E >Version: QYS1 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.25
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX230E atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-U18A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
OtherPeripheral : Promise RAID Console 1.00 fasttx2k Port 2 ID 4 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160M0 YAR5 viasraid Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6B300S0 BANC viasraid Port 3 ID 2 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY CD-RW CRX230E D: CDRom0
SONY DVD RW DW-U18A E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1047280kB)
Free physical memory: 521MB (533860kB)
Memory in use : 49 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

28.5.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
18:29:32 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
DVD-Video files reallocation started

18:29:32 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

18:29:32 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6083
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

18:29:32 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
DVD-Video files sorted

18:29:32 #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
Reader running

18:29:32 #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer SONY DVD RW DW-U18A running

18:29:32 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

18:29:32 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

18:29:32 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3152
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

18:29:32 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)

18:29:32 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

18:29:32 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DW-U18A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AE1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

18:29:32 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

18:29:32 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286112 (2286112) = #2286112/508:1.37
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286112 blocks [SONY DVD RW DW-U18A ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

18:29:32 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DW-U18A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681957376, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286112 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

18:29:32 #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Caching of files started

18:29:32 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4163
Cache writing successful.

18:29:32 #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Caching of files completed

18:29:32 #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Burn process started at 2x (2,770 KB/s)

18:29:32 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

18:29:32 #21 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 28:15,547 (1695547ms) -> OK

18:29:32 #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2000
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

18:29:32 #23 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20660
Set BUFE: Buffer under-run error protection -> ON , Generic write control : ON

18:29:32 #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2141
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

18:29:32 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8230
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

18:29:48 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1297
18:29:48.328 - SONY DVD RW DW-U18A\H1 T1 : Queue again later

18:58:55 #27 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<SONY DVD RW DW-U18A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286112 (22E220h), lenght 0 blocks

18:58:55 #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

18:58:56 #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2383
EndDAO: Last written address was 2286111

18:59:42 #30 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

18:59:42 #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

18:59:42 #32 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Burn process completed successfully at 2x (2,770 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 13:00:00 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
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Plawton
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 02:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi gurnard,

From your sig and the Nero file I've just posted I think you might soon be blaming my discs - they're made by CMC! Here's the DVD ID file for further proof.

Had heard very good things about Ritek discs, and thought the dye on the Ridisc ones I bought was identical. Ho hum!

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AE1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG. AE1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rob1026
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 02:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
man you actually spent the time to cut and paste that all? bravo! but i would like to recommend doing aforementioned above or a pioneer burner they are great
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gurnard
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 03:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Plawton hi :)
yep! noticed from the log, i'm surprised the drive did'nt go "blah...spit" don't like these lol

the only RITEK to use are their own brand ie. RITEK....RIDATA AND TRAXDATA. don't trust any other Ritek under any other brand name ie Ridisc...Arita etc . even if the dye is purple.

you'll get good burns at the speed your doing with cmc but max 4x
the problem is a few weeks/months time, some times even the next day who knows
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LOCOENG
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 04:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Plawton

I agree with gurnard, ditch your discs and your problems may go away. Sony drives really aren't that bad as most are really rebadged lite-on's and BenQ's, both make excellent drives.

You also need to remove your serial number from your last log, it begins with 1A23 and delete all the logs above it...one is enough. LOL
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Nero API version: 6.3.1.25
The version of Nero you are using is also out of the Bible, update to 6.6.0.18 here: http://my.afterdawn.com/locoeng/blog_entry.cfm/280
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Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)
You are attempting to burn too close to the edge of the disc, reset your target size in DVD Shrink or Recode (whichever you use) to 4300.
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Burn process started at 2x (2,770 KB/s)
Burn at 4X, burning too slow can be just as bad as burning too fast.
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Plawton
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 08:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi

Thanks very much for your advice LOCOENG and gurnard.

I'll dig a little deeper into my pockets and try some other discs - verbatim probably.

I'll also make those other adjustments too - interesting that a slow burn speed can be less reliable.

I'll post results back here when I've had a go for future reference...

Cheers chaps - thanks for your time.

Plawton
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pepsimaxx
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay/// i found this at Newegg.

1-)Will it be okay to order from there in Canada?

2-)Will this burn x8 DVD - R?

3-)Is there a specific brand of disk this burner likes....ive got some TYs x8(TYG02) and some Verbs x16 (MCC something or other)
will they burn alright?

thanks!

=pepsimaxx=
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gurnard
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pepsimaxx hi :)
no link buddy
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mackdl
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@pepsimaxx

Benq DW-1650 at NCIX Canada.......$38.98 CAD (not sure how much shipping is)

http://www.ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?webid=launch2006
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pepsimaxx
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_ 		29. May 2006 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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LOCOENG
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_ 		1. June 2006 @ 05:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd personally go with the 1650, but for a few dollars more you can get the 1655 and have lightscribe abilities if you ever want to try out that feature.
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pepsimaxx
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_ 		5. June 2006 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what exactly is Lightscribing?
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LOCOENG
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_ 		5. June 2006 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lightscribe is a special disc that uses the burners laser to burn a greyscale image onto the disc, no printers necessary.

http://www.lightscribe.com/
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_ 		5. June 2006 @ 14:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have personally really enjoyed my NEC 3550 and my older TDK 440N. As far as media goes I really like KHypermedia DVD-R . I have used them for a few years and have probably only burned 5-10 coasters. Most of those were the results of shipping scratches from the top of the spindle dvds.
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