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Rouzuki
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27. August 2006 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok I bought the 6.99 25 pack of Verbatim 16x DVD+Rs ID Code MCC-004-00 (made in Taiwan). I've so far made 3 coasters. I've been using Imgburn, booktyping to DVD-ROM and burning at 8x. I believe my burner can only burn at 8x max, is that a problem? Should I be burning at 1x? Uhg, I kept hearing great things about Verbatim so I got them and so far only bad things. My Japan Fujifilm DVD+R have been working better and they are "2nd rate" according to one of the sticky threads.
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28. August 2006 @ 00:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You probably need a firmware update. If your burner is still supported with them.

What is the make and model of your burner?

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28. August 2006 @ 04:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have had problems with these disc also. until some wise people here had told me to burn them at 12x ive burnt about 10 or so now at 12x and have had 100% burns with them no coasters. by chance you dont have a HP burner do you? that is what i have for the time being that burner isnt all that good ive had it for about 8 months now and have had alot of coasters from it.... once again if you can burn them at 12x you should be ok
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28. August 2006 @ 04:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i had one single problem with an MCC004 (Made in India), though i've used lots of them without problem at 8x



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28. August 2006 @ 05:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Post your burner model number and current firmware version and we'll check to see that you are up to date. If your drive is an 8X drive you won't be able to burn at 12X.


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28. August 2006 @ 05:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LITE-ON LDW-851S GS0P - Firmware should be up to date but maybe I missed something. Should I attempt burning at a low speed like 2x? My coasters were made at 8x.
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i'm wondering whether imgburn supports your burner correctly or generically ?




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28. August 2006 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Firmware is current, but hasn't been updated since 2004 according to RPC1...agreeing with creaky, could you post a burn log from Imgburn? You might try 4X, but with firmware that outdated I doubt if it will help.


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28. August 2006 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, i've made successful burns with my Fujifilm media, so I know Imgburn works, where might I find where my burner is supported? Will post the burn log in a few.

I updated my firmware from the liteonit webpage. The date says 03/22/2006

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28. August 2006 @ 05:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Rouzuki:
i've made successful burns with my Fujifilm media
What speed were the Fuji discs rated? The reason for firmware is to help your burner better handle new media (such as 8X, 16X etc.) and a wider array of manufacturers media. Your burner hasn't recieved an update since 8X media was the standard, this might be why your Fuji discs (if they are 8X discs) gave you good burns, but you are having no joy with the "newer" 16X verbatim...you drive just doesn't know how to handle them.


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28. August 2006 @ 06:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I 09:29:44 ImgBurn Version 2.0.0.0 started!
I 09:29:44 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 09:29:44 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:29:44 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:29:44 Found 5 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD±RW!
I 09:49:38 Operation Started!
I 09:49:38 Source File: D:\mc\mc\mc.ISO
I 09:49:38 Source File Sectors: 1,736,496 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:49:38 Source File Size: 3,556,343,808 bytes
I 09:49:38 Source File Application Identifier: ******
I 09:49:38 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD-ROM GENERATOR
I 09:49:38 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 09:49:38 Destination Device: [0:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0P (G:) (USB)
I 09:49:38 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 09:49:38 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 09:49:38 Write Mode: DVD
I 09:49:38 Write Type: DAO
I 09:49:38 Write Speed: 4x
I 09:49:38 Link Size: Auto
I 09:49:38 Test Mode: No
I 09:49:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 09:49:38 Filling Buffer...
I 09:49:39 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:49:54 Writing Image...
I 10:00:34 Synchronising Cache...
I 10:00:36 Closing Track...
I 10:00:39 Finalising Disc...
I 10:00:55 Image MD5: d038e2185a96bcc93848d4b8db846e58
I 10:00:55 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:16
I 10:00:55 Average Write Rate: 5,426 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,618 KB/s (4.1x)

Thats the log, looks the same as any other log. Btw, thanks for the help everyone =)

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Quote:
Destination Device: [0:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S GS0P
- well imgburn can obviously recognise your burner correctly...however it's all down to whether your firmware can recognise the MCC004 correctly, i'll have a mooch...



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28. August 2006 @ 06:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like a successful burn to me...does it play?

I'm still not finding anything on this drive after 2004-2005 listing the same firmware that you are using...so that firmware has been around for a while.

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1734
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=155641

A little info on your drive:

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indeed, yeah we need to determine what the actual problem is; the log does seem fine.
@Rouzuki - define coaster for us as you see it, not the meaning but how are you seeing the problem manifest itself ?. if it's playback problems you could try a CRC check to ceck for corruption on one of the problematic discs.

ps i was just passing originally so just chipping in :)



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28. August 2006 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You are always welcome to chip in creaky...I'm at work right now so I might have to abandon this thread at any moment to avoid a train wreck.


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28. August 2006 @ 06:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well the logged one worked ironically, but playback is a bit skippy and compared to a similar copy made on Fuji the Fuji runs smoothly. Hmm, I decreased the burn down to 4x from 8x for the skippy one, should i decrease more or increase to 6x? Ill do a CRC check on the others too.

But to answer a question from a fews posts ago, the Fuji is rated 8x so I'm sure that helps it be more compatible like said.

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i would do some CRC scanning first ie we need to establish if the data is intact or it's simply a playback issue



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28. August 2006 @ 08:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In MY experience with burning too fast and skipping playback, I had to redo from the ORIGINAL. I checked my backup for CRC errors, nothing. For some reason, slowing down the burn speed when using the BACKUP only produced the same results.

So....if I have any playback problems, I redo from the ORIGINAL dvd.
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28. August 2006 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The CRC scan came back fine, I believe my burner is just too old. I burnt a few more copies of a known working DVD at all the speeds available, and though none of the rest work well or at all, 6x seems to work fine. Thank you guys again for assisting me in my DVD perils!

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cool; it could well be a little old now; and to help you further in your burning adventures... i'll quote the mighty Monty Python -
Quote:
LAUNCELOT:
We were in the nick of time. You were in great peril.
GALAHAD:
I don't think I was.
LAUNCELOT:
Yes, you were. You were in terrible peril.
GALAHAD:
Look, let me go back in there and face the peril.
LAUNCELOT:
No, it's too perilous.
GALAHAD:
Look, it's my duty as a knight to sample as much peril as I can.
LAUNCELOT:
No, we've got to find the Holy Grail of DVD Burning. Come on!




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You forgot to mention a new BenQ DW 1650/55 creaky.


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28. August 2006 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah, i guess i could stretch as far as recommending Rouzuki buys a nice new Benq DW1650 :P



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28. August 2006 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
trying to find one of them 1650 is rough.. ben to alot of the sites everyone refers people to and they are all sold out the 1655 is available though but more pricey than the 1650.... well not really but newegg had the 1650 for $27 on slae and the 1655 is about $44..
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So is newegg out of stock then? If'n you find one in your price range you'd better snatch one up.


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28. August 2006 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hell the $44 is in my price ramge but if i can get one for 27 why not...lol gonna wait till this weekend if they dont have any(1650) in stock i will get the 1655
 
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