Originally posted by sammorris:

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My mate jon had his 940 [an early batch preceding the 920 D0] at 4Ghz on air at 75C. 80 on water just doesn't happen unless you're using an outrageous voltage.

Just to give you an example, the people I know with watercooling, i7s included, all get less than 40C full load on their CPUs, including the overclocked ones.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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I'll stress these are real watercooled systems, not the basic integrated systems like the coolIT Eco and the Corsair H50. Those are better than air coolers, but not by that much.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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The number of stream processors does not give a linear indication of processing performance of a graphics card, but the HD4670 is indeed twice as powerful as the 9500GT.

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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:

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Hey Russ, that's not a bad price per performance deal. I helped my othr friend building a budget media encoding rig and he went for a GT240 1G but for a lettle more he could'vr got one of these. maybe they'll do a rebate on one soon. ASUS just had their $30 rebate on a lot of nice cards.

I found some notes on my Daily OC of the i7 920 & i7 930. They both would be early batches as I got them at retail the week released. The i7 930 is @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.323 and it's 2nd 4.3G profile is w/ 1.331. I found of my "2", the 930 did 4.3 at same it took the 920 to do 4.2 with simular temps. These were on air test with my typical , yet most reliable to date for 5+ years, the ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme with dual Sythe fans. This cooler alone w/ single fan can outperform few off the shel water set ups. I didnt concider this extreme or crazy vols, not even on my mobo. I kept QPI under 3.5 See sample below of i7 930 (Datch #3951A824) as 200*21 @ DDR1600

Voltages
Vcore 1.323
PLL 1.885
QPI 1.323
IOH core 1.204
IOH PCI-E 1.5v 1.521
ICH core 1.204
ICH 1.5v 1.515
DRAM Bus 1.654
DRAM Ref AUTO

Sure there's more to it but that gives you an idea. 4GHz for the 930 was under 1.29v and barely 1.320v for the 920

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Umm not to be the naysayer here Shaff but 9C? Last I checked unless using unconventional methods, a CPU will never get below room temp. In fact, even the best cooled CPU will be a smidge above room temps.

So you're either telling us you used a heavy duty TEC cooler, or your room temp went below 48*F which is downright chilly. Just saying I've seen a lot of people quoting their thermistors without a thought as to whether it was actually right. I'm not saying I don't believe you saw a figure of 9C, I'm just saying it's extremely unlikely that it was actually running at 9C.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Core temps are totally irrelevant because of how often they're wrong. The main CPU temp is what defines throttling/shutdown, and that's what I've always used.

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Originally posted by NuckNFuts:

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I found some notes on my Daily OC of the i7 920 & i7 930. They both would be early batches as I got them at retail the week released. The i7 930 is @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.323 and it's 2nd 4.3G profile is w/ 1.331. I found of my "2", the 930 did 4.3 at same it took the 920 to do 4.2 with simular temps. These were on air test with my typical , yet most reliable to date for 5+ years, the ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme with dual Sythe fans. This cooler alone w/ single fan can outperform few off the shel water set ups. I didnt concider this extreme or crazy vols, not even on my mobo. I kept QPI under 3.5 See sample below of i7 930 (Datch #3951A824) as 200*21 @ DDR1600

Voltages
Vcore 1.323
PLL 1.885
QPI 1.323
IOH core 1.204
IOH PCI-E 1.5v 1.521
ICH core 1.204
ICH 1.5v 1.515
DRAM Bus 1.654
DRAM Ref AUTO

Sure there's more to it but that gives you an idea. 4GHz for the 930 was under 1.29v and barely 1.320v for the 920

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Umm not to be the naysayer here Shaff but 9C? Last I checked unless using unconventional methods, a CPU will never get below room temp. In fact, even the best cooled CPU will be a smidge above room temps.

So you're either telling us you used a heavy duty TEC cooler, or your room temp went below 48*F which is downright chilly. Just saying I've seen a lot of people quoting their thermistors without a thought as to whether it was actually right. I'm not saying I don't believe you saw a figure of 9C, I'm just saying it's extremely unlikely that it was actually running at 9C.

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just quoteing what i saw. though it was on core temp, so coudl actually be 19c, as IICR they were off by 10c for the max temps. and they worked form the max temps backwards.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Nuck,
There's a rebate deal on it right now for $99! $30 MIR!

Russ

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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once again im only reporting what i saw. I have no reason to lie.

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having said that they are more realistic than the amd stuff i have seen, i was playing with an athlon x4 the other week and it thought the cores were in the 35/40c range while the board was reading 50c for the socket under load and 13c cores at idle. amd run cool but not that cool.

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temps are just meh, if stuff gets too hot it will slow then shut itself down and thats about the only time you need to worry about them.

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Originally posted by marsey99:

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idle]any how, i cant believe this thread is still alive and kicking :o it was a couple of years old when i first posted and i now have a daughter thats younger than it xD

erm yea, been a while. bye.

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Also remember that not all motherboards are created equal. 35-40*C certainly does sound reasonable for an Athlon II X4, considering I have been OCing AMDs for over 5 years now. The 50*C at the socket is the temp I would be wary of. My OVERCLOCKED Phenom II barely hits 50*C at the cores let alone at the board. I have no problem believing an Athlon II X4 at stock speeds can do 40*C under load with the stock cooler.

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Wow, that's good, you must have measures in the snow cause out here in Ca I couldn't get a Dual X2 6400+ below low 40's idle at stock one EOM fan and it hit easily mid 60's + in load. It took a ThermalRight to get loaded temps below 60c loaded with an OC though. It was a finicky OC'r but then again as you said it's the motherboards that can effect. I had the CROSSHAIR & it wasn't the best OC'r compared to my LanParty then. I got that 6400+ to 3.5 on air, got warm but was stable w/ DDR 1154~1200

Now I look back at my Core 2 Dual/Qhads and think wow and I thought those temps were hot, these i7's can put out the heat to match those Athlons now. I can do a single fan low on a 4.2GHz Q9550 where a i920 needed 2 at medium at same clock. But I sure like the performance gain.

Originally posted by NuckNFuts:

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Originally posted by marsey99:

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idle]any how, i cant believe this thread is still alive and kicking :o it was a couple of years old when i first posted and i now have a daughter thats younger than it xD

erm yea, been a while. bye.

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How cool us as well. We had 2 new arrivals since and oldest is 3 back in November.

Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Also remember that not all motherboards are created equal. 35-40*C certainly does sound reasonable for an Athlon II X4, considering I have been OCing AMDs for over 5 years now. The 50*C at the socket is the temp I would be wary of. My OVERCLOCKED Phenom II barely hits 50*C at the cores let alone at the board. I have no problem believing an Athlon II X4 at stock speeds can do 40*C under load with the stock cooler.

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Wow, that's good, you must have measures in the snow cause out here in Ca I couldn't get a Dual X2 6400+ below low 40's idle at stock one EOM fan and it hit easily mid 60's + in load. It took a ThermalRight to get loaded temps below 60c loaded with an OC though. It was a finicky OC'r but then again as you said it's the motherboards that can effect. I had the CROSSHAIR & it wasn't the best OC'r compared to my LanParty then. I got that 6400+ to 3.5 on air, got warm but was stable w/ DDR 1154~1200

Now I look back at my Core 2 Dual/Qhads and think wow and I thought those temps were hot, these i7's can put out the heat to match those Athlons now. I can do a single fan low on a 4.2GHz Q9550 where a i920 needed 2 at medium at same clock. But I sure like the performance gain.

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Nuck,
The older Dual Cores, like the 64x2 6400, generate a lot more heat than the Phenom II x2, x4, and the x6. Stress testing all 4 cores on my 955BE will see temps in the very low 50C range. It only hit's a max of 43C while encoding with DVDRB/CCE. All of the modern AMD chips run much cooler than the older ones did. I'm currently idling at 28-30C, with my overclocked Phenom II x4 955BE, and it's 24C in here at the moment. The 45nm AMDs run very cool. I use a CoolIt ECO 120, sealed liquid cooler for my CPU. not a big advantage over air cooling, but it cools quite well, especially when the So Cal summer hits the Inland Empire, with it's 100F+ temps.. That's when it really shines. Very quiet too, in spite of two fans (Push/Pull).

Russ

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Wow, that's good, you must have measures in the snow cause out here in Ca I couldn't get a Dual X2 6400+ below low 40's idle at stock one EOM fan and it hit easily mid 60's + in load.

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It was a finicky OC'r but then again as you said it's the motherboards that can effect. I had the CROSSHAIR & it wasn't the best OC'r compared to my LanParty then. I got that 6400+ to 3.5 on air, got warm but was stable w/ DDR 1154~1200

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these i7's can put out the heat to match those Athlons now.

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