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Am I getting ripped off?
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Jessica99
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6. February 2007 @ 11:51 |
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Im trying to get my ps2 modded in order to play back-ups from original copies and downloaded copies. Im not an experienced solderer so I need a pro to install for me.
A guy close by is willing to install a modbo 745 3.0 for $100. First question is am I getting ripped off?
Second is whats the difference between getting a modbo chip to a good quality chip like the matrix infinity.
Thanks for any help.
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6. February 2007 @ 18:20 |
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no i don't think he's ripping u off. online stores charge around that, sometimes even more.
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7. February 2007 @ 03:45 |
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well, not really. But it could be done cheaper i am sure.
The chip itself is only about $20 since it is a cheap clone chip.
So unless you are shipping it to him and back and he is paying for shipping then he is charging you $80 for the install.
Most places do it for $35-$50 online.
Problem with online is you have to ship it there and back which adds another $30 plus the chip price which would put you right around $100 anyway.
Modbo is a clone chip and lacks the features and support of a better brand like the Matrix Infinity or Crystal Chip V2.0
They can not be upgraded where as the Matrix Infinity can when newer firmware is released for the chip.
I did a little research, and if you are in the US, then the price of the chip (Matrix Infinity Green Dot), shipping both ways and the install at a reputable shop (teammodders.com) would run you $109
or $86 if you wanted a good, solid, low prices chip (Duo 3). It would not have upgrades but if all you want is something to run back up games it would surely do the trick.
a 30 day warranty is free and a 90 day warranty is only $8 more
(after looking i think that they may add the cost of insured return shipping into the price of the chip when you tell them what you want installed)
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Jessica99
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7. February 2007 @ 15:13 |
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Thanks for the replies,
Im just a little confused about the actual difference in the chips. Firstly what exactly is firmware, and what does the matrix have that the modbo doesnt? Is there more to a modchip than just playing backups?
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raiderj
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8. February 2007 @ 14:02 |
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If all you're interested in is playing backups, the modbo or any other chip will suit your needs just fine. Higher quality chips, like the MI, can be updated (new firmware). Adds various features or compatibility depending on the chip.
$100 is expensive - but if they are a quality installer then it's all relative. In truth, modchip install prices are pretty cheap for all the work that's entailed. People who install chips I would say do it more because they enjoy the work rather than they are making money at it.
Team Modders I'd recommend, as well as NorCal Mods.
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gp376
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17. February 2007 @ 15:58 |
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thats a really high price for a clone install . i sent mine to trustedmods.com , the grand total was $80 and i got a real chip and not a clone like that mobo .
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19. February 2007 @ 07:43 |
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Actually, that is high. Most modders charge 30 to 35 USD to install and that clone should be $20 to $25. Shipping via USPS should be $12 to $15 each way but she did say "the guy is close by". What kind of work does he do? Does he have references? Does he warranty his work?
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25. February 2007 @ 06:39 |
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I don't think anyone will do it for 30 bucks:S, 100 is what I payed for Matrix Infinity, and since Modbo is an clone of the Infinity, they are almost the same.
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raiderj
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25. February 2007 @ 10:12 |
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Originally posted by inline:
I don't think anyone will do it for 30 bucks:S, 100 is what I payed for Matrix Infinity, and since Modbo is an clone of the Infinity, they are almost the same.
$35 at NorCal Mods
$35 at Team Modders
Modbo chips are clones that cannot have their firmware updated. Spending a few extra bucks and get the real chip is a better option.
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25. February 2007 @ 10:37 |
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ow install only, and i said almost the same, the update feature is worth nothing man.
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raiderj
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25. February 2007 @ 11:28 |
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Originally posted by inline:
ow install only, and i said almost the same, the update feature is worth nothing man.
Install only is $35. NorCal will install a Crystal Chip 2.0 Pro for $85 (chip + install). They probably do better installs than just about any place out there.
Clones are almost the same. You just miss out on important software upgrades, such as VGA output. You also can completely ruin your clone by trying to update the firmware, or even if you try and change a setting.
I wouldn't recommend it to save a few dollars.
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26. February 2007 @ 03:27 |
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I would.
(btw you don't have to repeat yourself over and over)
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26. February 2007 @ 04:38 |
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well, then let me repeat it for him.
Save your money and get a real chip and not some clone chip.
People who know anything about modding would give you the same advice. It is like trying to drink an RC Cola when you really wanted a Coke. It will just never be as good.
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raiderj
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26. February 2007 @ 07:06 |
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Originally posted by steimy:
well, then let me repeat it for him.
Save your money and get a real chip and not some clone chip.
People who know anything about modding would give you the same advice. It is like trying to drink an RC Cola when you really wanted a Coke. It will just never be as good.
Hey, I like RC Cola! :)
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26. February 2007 @ 11:23 |
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pfff attitude,
Asuming i don't know shit:S
I have modded lot's of ps2 with Matrix Infinity, but now I mod all the ps2's with Modbo 760. Works great.
Did you ever mod a PS2 yourself? (to steimy)
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raiderj
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26. February 2007 @ 11:34 |
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Originally posted by inline:
pfff attitude,
Asuming i don't know shit:S
I have modded lot's of ps2 with Matrix Infinity, but now I mod all the ps2's with Modbo 760. Works great.
Did you ever mod a PS2 yourself? (to steimy)
Seems silly then to me to spend all the time installing a chip that is so fragile. If it was 5 wires or so I could understand, but it doesn't take any more time to install a genuine chip.
If you're modding the systems for someone else, what's your incentive to use clone chips?
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26. February 2007 @ 11:43 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by inline:
pfff attitude,
Asuming i don't know shit:S
I have modded lot's of ps2 with Matrix Infinity, but now I mod all the ps2's with Modbo 760. Works great.
Did you ever mod a PS2 yourself? (to steimy)
Seems silly then to me to spend all the time installing a chip that is so fragile. If it was 5 wires or so I could understand, but it doesn't take any more time to install a genuine chip.
If you're modding the systems for someone else, what's your incentive to use clone chips?
9 points are quicksolder.
It's not that hard to understand, THEY ARE CHEAPER!!!
What's wrong with you guys, most people wont there console fixed, because blank dvd's are CHEAPER than original games.
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raiderj
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26. February 2007 @ 11:49 |
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Quicksolder? That's interesting. Do you have a link to the chip? I didn't know they had any PS2 chips with quicksolder points. I'm assuming to the BIOS points?
Cheaper, yes, but only by $20-30 right? That still doesn't sound like a good deal to me. I'd hate to have to redo a chip because it was fried by something like an update.
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26. February 2007 @ 12:05 |
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http://www.modbo2.com/diagramme/modbo%20760/V14-V16/PAL-V14.jpg
that quicksolder is really sweet.
I thought it would be faster but more difficult, but is much faster and much easier too.
Yeah if you update it, you will be fucked.
But when you boot your PS2 with Modbo it says Modbo (sane when you boot a game). So no one (of my clients) ever thought it would be Matrix Infinity, and updateded it with matrix software.
Unlike to Ripper3, because when you start your PS2 with Ripper3 it says Matrix Infinity, that sucks.
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raiderj
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26. February 2007 @ 12:15 |
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Doesn't look like point 'W' would be able to be soldered, as the chip looks like it would lay over the top. Do you solder it to another point, or does it just barely have enough room?
I didn't think of it, but I'm surprised some of the other chips don't have some quicksolder points. I don't like being forced to put a chip in a specific spot, but having a separate piece you could quicksolder that would connect to the regular chip would be nice. Then again, half the fun is running the wires.
On their diagram, you'd think they'd show a better 3.3V solder point. Why use the one on the other side of the board?
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26. February 2007 @ 12:19 |
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I don't know where most people put there 'W' but I always meassure it and put in on a via above the chip.
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26. February 2007 @ 12:20 |
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I think that we are talking a bit offtopic;) but hey nobody complains;)
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27. February 2007 @ 03:42 |
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inline, i did not assume that you knew nothing. And i know plenty about PS2, Xbox, 360 and PC modding
But what i said is simple and plain fact, and not attitude.
Modbo is a cheap clone
Modbo is not as stable as the real thing
modbo can not have the firmware upgraded to get all of the latest and greatest features available, which is a pretty big deal when it comes to chips.
No offense was intended. But i would NEVER suggest that people buy a clone chip over the real thing.
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27. February 2007 @ 07:07 |
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OK.. SO WHAT ARE THESE EXTRA FEATURES WITH THE MATRIX CHIP? I'M NEW TO THE FORUMS AS OF TODAY AND I'M MAKIN A LIST OF THINGS I NEED TO RUN MY GAMES OFF THE INTERNAL HDD. I STILL HAVEN'T LOOKED THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THROUGH THE TOPICS. CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A LIST OF THE BEST SET UP FOR MY PS2. PRICE IS NOT A PROBLEM. IT WOULD KINDA NARROW DOWN MY RESEARCH AND GET THINGS ROLLIN FASTER... OR JUST LINK ME TO WHERE EVER.. THANX
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27. February 2007 @ 10:23 |
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Cut the crap with the capslock, REALY IGNORING TO READ.
If price is not a problem you can just buy the most expencive chip.
Matrix infinity
Modbo 760
Christal Chip
DMS chips
It will all work with a Hard-drive.
So you need a chip and a harddrive, thats it.
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