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Why are labels bad on DVD?
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Discmania
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18. October 2003 @ 03:12 |
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Yes I agree. I use an Epson C62 which is fine for label printing. Not only that but I can get ink cartridge refills in UK for £4 each. The C42 which is an even cheaper model at the moment is also OK for labels. I have to say that I used to have a Lexmark Z55 which was fine too for printing no bother disc labels but Lexmark could quite easily give you their printers away for the amount you have to fork out for their ink which is a total scam. I threw the thing out after realising it cost more to use it than run my computer. I use Neato brand labels and puncher and have never had a problem with playback.
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VinylPush
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18. October 2003 @ 03:17 |
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I'm wary of direct-to-disc printing.
I'd like to be reassured that such an activity is not going to scratch the undersurface of the discs, or force me to leave fingerprints all over the them during removal from the printer.
Has anyone got some facts and figures?
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lucky1992
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19. October 2003 @ 21:19 |
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I too have had no problems with labels, but after reading these posts, they just reinforced my opinion from the beginning,"will these labels bother playback?" I use sharpies now on everything, because , unless I'm going to sell backups that look like originals,(heck, id may as well sell them as originals, because the prison time would be the same, might as well make some cash in the process :'S) then why bother with labels ? Most of the problems I have deal with disc quality most of the time, example, I can copy from a verbatim backup, but not a memorex. Weird, may be my burner, I doubt it though. I'm a verbatim addict, because I've only had about 3 coasters out of about 400 burns. Good track (no pun) record though. One thing about labels though, dvds can last for about 100 years? or so? supposedly? I KNOW the labels won't. Oh well, my 2 cents worth.
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20. October 2003 @ 05:21 |
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DVD's are estimated to last for around 100 years, better branded ones, but we dont know for sure since they have not been around for long enough. In a hundred years my grandchildren will let your grandchildren know ;-D
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20. October 2003 @ 11:07 |
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No, they will say Dvd`s weren`t those used in the stone ages?
Something will most likely replace DVD's and we will be backing up on that media. As in 8 track to tapes. But I agree the labels on my VHS tapes are falling off now and I put those on in 1993. So ten years later I wouldn't be surprised if happened to DVD's as well.
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moogoo112
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21. October 2003 @ 00:47 |
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cool i just bought 300 pack of cd stomper labels and using memorex software and all my riteck g03 plays great. no glitch, nada
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AmieH
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11. November 2003 @ 08:49 |
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If you plan to burn and print CDs or DVDs in-house, be sure to look at the Bravo Disc Publisher by Primera Technology. Bravo uses a robotic arm to first burn the disc and then prints full-color, photo-quality images directly onto the surface of the disc. No labels are required! To find out more, visit www.primera.com/bravo
Amie
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Slickx45
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11. November 2003 @ 14:31 |
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I have been using an Epson Photo 900 direct CD/DVD printer with AMAZING results. No worries of scratching VinylPush, the printer comes with a plastic tray to feed the disc through the printer. The disc never comes in contact with anything that could scratch it. Lables are a BAD idea. I was a believer in them and have used them for years on Cd's but have had problems with them on DVD's, even using an applicator and high quality labels. This printer is definately the way to go!!
Richard
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cinci5
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13. November 2003 @ 16:50 |
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I recently purchased the Epson R300M that prints directly on the disk, awesome printer for $220.00 US. I put disk in from the front unlike the 900 that goes in from the back. Very convenient. Uses the printable (white top)disks of course.
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wejamn
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29. December 2003 @ 15:18 |
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I started out by backing up my DVD's and placing Neato labels on them by hand. I think that was a HUGE bit** of a mistake. A couple of the dvds played fine, but 2 of them played very well to begin but about a quarter way into the dvd, it started to pause during play, flicker, glitch and then became impossible to watch....I sat there in pure discust. Actually i got so angry i threw out the dvd's because i thought they were crap burns. I have not yet been able to prove if it was the labels or if it was the burn but I will not be labelling n e more of my DVD back up n e more. On the other hand i have sucessfully labelled all my Ps2 backups and they play on PS2 fine and dandy like sour candy :)
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29. December 2003 @ 17:53 |
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i dont know why this big ass thread for this subject. i too use tdk labels on all my dvd+r disk and never in my life ive experience any of the episodes that you guys are talking about. like everyone has said, just apply the label after your done burning. ive even had label put on movies in the inner ring, and nothing everhappened, and ive given my movies out to family members... sooo ill say about 10 different players have played my labeled movies and nobody has every said jack about it.
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SouthernG
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4. January 2004 @ 05:57 |
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Ok I have similar probs..
This might be of intrest to some...
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/179510.php
A guide to convert a lexmark 2 print on disks.
If anyone has tried this let us no or similar guides 4 diffrent printers. I have a few old epsons that i will happily hack 2 bits...
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rsb64113
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4. January 2004 @ 07:27 |
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If you can get the printable Ritek G04s then the printing is pretty easy to do. I've also heard some people using a spray fixative/clear coat to get the glossy look. I know www.rima.com carries the printable G4s DVD-R. I think newegg might also...sent them an email and Im waiting to hear from them. One thing...you might want to look into aftermarket inks to cut down the cost. Original Epson carts are around 25-30 dollars for the color.
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VinylPush
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4. January 2004 @ 07:39 |
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The new Canon i865 is able to print to discs. UK price seems to be around £160 (www.dabs.com).
Canon's ink prices are already quite low because you replace each ink separately.
Replacement inks are incredibly cheap. Colour inks for my S520 are less than £2 each!
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thekro
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9. January 2004 @ 14:04 |
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DVD lables interferring with disks being read properly in some dvd players and not others, Using princo dvd 1x media and toshiba sd-r6012 burner firmware 1332 and burning with Nero and Alcohol 120 I have tested dvds and found them to work perfect before appling neato lables with applicator,and found that after with lables they would play on mintec 1600 perfect but not on toshiba dvd player and burner that they were made on, however after removing lables by soaking them in hot water and scrapping them off, they worked perfect on everything, so lables even applied perfectly interfere on some equipment.
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CJMANIA
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10. January 2004 @ 18:37 |
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I have stopped using labels on my DVD's, because they always cause my DVD to stop playing and freeze. I don't recomend using labels, just use a Sharpie and you will have no more problems.
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wejamn
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11. January 2004 @ 13:13 |
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agreed
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keithyb
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15. January 2004 @ 18:48 |
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i was just looking at the of the prices on the LInk above. The place seemes over priced. Some of the products in there are about 50% more the cost then other web pages....you should look else where :)
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16. January 2004 @ 11:23 |
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I made a backup of 'The Ring' a few months back & stuck a label on it. I then ran it quickly through my stand-alone, skipped through the chapters to check the burn, everything was fine. Now, last night i went to watch it, it wouldn't read, data error came up on-screen on tv. Laid offending disc label-side down in a saucer of lukewarm water with a drop of washing up liquid in it & soaked the bloody thing off. Once it was removed, the remaining traces of gum removed, and dried off, i put it back into dvd player and guess what ???
It played from start to finish flawlessly !!!!!!
Labels, GRRRRRRR !!!!
Dene
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SouthernG
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16. January 2004 @ 11:33 |
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Ok Seams that lables r bad and remove them with soapy water, tryed and tested myself, but i still want my dvd`s lookin good. not upto buyin a new printer as have just brought an all in one scanner copyer printer. has anyone had any experiance with the clear plastic type lables, these maybe thinner and work better plz let us know...
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Doofy
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17. January 2004 @ 02:36 |
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I use nothing but the clear labels and have had no problems playing them print quality is pretty good on my epson with print set to ink jet transparencies
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SGDVD
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22. January 2004 @ 12:22 |
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Yes just tried to play an old dvd that was labled with glossy cd label.
started skipping at chapter 4, took it out peeled off label with a little water to help peel, after removing label i put dvd back in the same player and played flawless through all chapters, so i agree labeling with cd labels are a huge mistake.
i am currently trying the cd core labels, they are much smaller and lighter, but if they don't work then i will be just using a cd-r pen and writing around the centre hole.
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22. January 2004 @ 13:21 |
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ive experience some problems with games that ive apply labels to, but with movies i really cant remember when was the last time i had to remove one so it can play. if it helps, these are the labels that i use. tdk matte labels, pretty cheap at "brandsmart" 100 for $12 dollars. i agree doe, labels can sometimes give you problems.. but to me it doesnt happen all the time. these are my two dvd players 1.zenith, and 2. mintek.
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23. January 2004 @ 14:46 |
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SGDVD - The inner core labels will work fine. the problem seems to lie with the label being placed over the surface of the disc. If you look at a DVD-Movie, the label is nearly always of a high grade material, sometimes a filament plastic. Paper just doesnt seem to work. Some DVD-Movies, have two layers to a label.
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forkndave
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27. January 2004 @ 21:35 |
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I started off using DVD+R disks and I was labeling them all. I noticed that any DVD that I had that was over maybe a month old would play very badly or not at all. The funny thing is that they played perfectly when first burned. I threw a lot of them away thinking that they just don't last long. This was pretty discouraging. Then I read this forum about the labels being bad. I started removing labels and they all work fine. I bought an Epson R300 printer and now use writeable DVDs. I'll have to see how their longevity is. Experimentally, I burned a movie and checked the disk with K-Probe. I then installed a label and checked it again. The PI and PO errors were at least ten times as great. I know this subject has been beat to death, but I thought I'd add my 2cents.
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