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theonejrs
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_ 		3. October 2009 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Estuansis:
 These PCs do perform quite well and certainly within what mine could do. I've played with them a lot in the computer lab :P

Estuansis,
I've had a few of them that have had AMD Dual Cores in them, and I know a 4600+ SlimLine runs as fast as the 4800+ in Oxi. I had another which had a 4050e and it was very impressive! Even the cooling amazes me! The SlimLines seem to be very good quality, and is extremely solid! It impressed me with what that tiny case weighed!

Russ

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sammorris
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's because the 4600+ and 4800+ are almost identical, the 4600 just has less cache :P

Seemingly I just got unlucky with the ones I used... :S
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theonejrs
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Originally posted by sammorris:
 That's because the 4600+ and 4800+ are almost identical, the 4600 just has less cache :P

Seemingly I just got unlucky with the ones I used... :S

Sam,
They both have the same amount of cache. These were both 65nm Brisbanes, and the HP SlimLine had the newer chipset! The older socket AM2 90nm Windsor had more L2 cache!

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rick5446
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I'm at Nvidia right now trying to D/L Drivers for 9400 GT . All I can seem to get is this Fricken DriverRobot, scan my Computer then wants 29.95
Frick that
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MM processor eh. Thats a pretty big processor :P
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theonejrs
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
 MM processor eh. Thats a pretty big processor :P

LOL! Fixed!

Russ

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theonejrs
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rick5446:
 I'm at Nvidia right now trying to D/L Drivers for 9400 GT . All I can seem to get is this Fricken DriverRobot, scan my Computer then wants 29.95
Frick that

Try driverguide.com!

Russ

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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 13:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 4600+ and 4800+ 939 chips were 1MB/2MB offerings at 2.4Ghz respectively. The 4600+ and 4800+ AM2 Windsor and Brisbane CPUs both had 1MB cache, but they varied the clock speed instead, 2.4 to 2.5Ghz.
Don't use driverguide for graphics drivers, you won't get anywhere near the latest ones, and that's a big problem with graphics drivers, as many releases are withdrawn for bugfixes, but they'll still remain at DG. The nvidia site isn't that hard to use to be fair.
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rick5446
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the card I've got
MSI N94GT-MD512 GeForce 9400 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127412

Which of these Drivers do I need
N9400GT-512MX-F

N9400GT-512DZ-F
Or does it matter
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sammorris
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Go here:
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Select your card (Geforce 9 series) and OS and proceed from there.
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rick5446
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Russ , tried your recommended site all I get is DriverDetective
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sammorris
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that's because you need the www ;-)
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rick5446
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Thanks Everybody
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theonejrs
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Originally posted by sammorris:
 The 4600+ and 4800+ 939 chips were 1MB/2MB offerings at 2.4Ghz respectively. The 4600+ and 4800+ AM2 Windsor and Brisbane CPUs both had 1MB cache, but they varied the clock speed instead, 2.4 to 2.5Ghz.
Don't use driverguide for graphics drivers, you won't get anywhere near the latest ones, and that's a big problem with graphics drivers, as many releases are withdrawn for bugfixes, but they'll still remain at DG. The nvidia site isn't that hard to use to be fair.

Sam,
I neglected to mention that the reason the 4600+ in the Slimline is as fast as the 4800+ with the nVidia 430 chipset, is the newer chipsets perform better, even with the older CPUs. Especially in motherboards with AMD chipsets!

When you say "they varied the clock speed", what do you mean? Stock the 4600+ is 2.4GHz, while the 4800+ is 2.5GHz. When I bought the 4800+, it was on sale, and was $5 cheaper than the 4600+, so to me the 4800+ was the better chip at a cheaper price (under $40)!

Russ

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sammorris
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As I said in the previous post, the difference between the 939 4600 and 4800 was the 1MB vs 2MB of cache, they were both 2.4Ghz. With the AM2 chips, instead of varying the cache size, they varied the clock speed, 2.4 and 2.5Ghz.
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theonejrs
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
 As I said in the previous post, the difference between the 939 4600 and 4800 was the 1MB vs 2MB of cache, they were both 2.4Ghz. With the AM2 chips, instead of varying the cache size, they varied the clock speed, 2.4 and 2.5Ghz.

Gotcha!

Thanks,
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sammorris
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No worries, I had actually forgotten it was this way round for AM2 chips, hence the earlier confusion.
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What do U think of this HDD , I'm looking at the added USB CONNECTORS
Still a decent Price 79.99 + 8.95 shipping

http://go.iomega.com/en-us/products/exte..._20091003_en_us

I'm LAZY I know . Does AD have a Discussion Forum on MKV Movies , if so could U Kindly point me to the link
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sammorris
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That's a vast amount of money to pay, probably the most expensive I've seen. Just build your own, buy the HDD and the enclosure - cheaper in this case, and much more reliable.
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rick5446
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sammorris : Thats Dollars not # sterling, U know that..I've never seen an External HDD Housing with added USB Hubs. If U know of one give me the link
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theonejrs
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_ 		4. October 2009 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rick5446:
 What do U think of this HDD , I'm looking at the added USB CONNECTORS
Still a decent Price 79.99 + 8.95 shipping

http://go.iomega.com/en-us/products/exte..._20091003_en_us

I'm LAZY I know . Does AD have a Discussion Forum on MKV Movies , if so could U Kindly point me to the link

Rick,
I think you would be better off with one of these for the same price!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136176

I've never had a lot of luck with iomega drives myself. Newegg doesn't even sell the Mini-Max. That tells me something right there!

Russ

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Again I mention no Xtra USB Hubs built into the Western Digital
I've got an Iomega 1 terabyte that I got at CompUSA 4 79.00 It runs cool & Quiet . Longgivity! Well as with any HDD only time will tell

Still nothing on an MKV Thread , Guessin their ain't one
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theonejrs
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Originally posted by rick5446:
 Again I mention no Xtra USB Hubs built into the Western Digital
I've got an Iomega 1 terabyte that I got at CompUSA 4 79.00 It runs cool & Quiet . Longgivity! Well as with any HDD only time will tell

Still nothing on an MKV Thread , Guessin their ain't one

Rick,
I sent you an email, but what it said was that the Ports on the Hub are not USB 2.0 ports, so they are virtually worthless! It's also not a powered hub, so that even makes it even more worthless! I can't even get USB 2.0 with my Wireless extension cord, and it was designed for it! It won't work at all unless it's a powered hub! Forget the other USB Ports, they're worthless! Even with my 4GB Memorex TravelDrive, there wouldn't be enough power to run it!

Russ

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sammorris
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Rick: I'm well aware of that, but I thought 640GB HDDs were cheaper (85-90% cost of 1TB) in the US than that, they're cheaper here.
Russ: I wouldn't take not being on newegg as a bad thing. Newegg refuse to sell Thermalright stuff, but that's high quality for cert.
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