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5. October 2009 @ 00:12 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Rick: I'm well aware of that, but I thought 640GB HDDs were cheaper (85-90% cost of 1TB) in the US than that, they're cheaper here.
Russ: I wouldn't take not being on newegg as a bad thing. Newegg refuse to sell Thermalright stuff, but that's high quality for cert.
Sam,
iomega has 32 related products, all external drives, yet not a single MiniMax. It's a current model, so you would think that they would at least have the $79 750GB one! I've never given iomega high marks for quality. You want quality, buy Plextor! I've found iomega drives to be reasonable performers, but not in the class of WD or Seagate. Not near as durable either!
Russ
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5. October 2009 @ 00:21 |
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I'll stick with my internal WD solution :P I love multi drives. If I need to transfer something, a flash drive is wonderful. The 160Gb mybook seems reliable, but it really bogs a system down as far as spinup, and overall windows experience. Any query that needs to access system devices, requires that the drive spinup. Quite irritating. I can see its advantages though. A 2Tb external could maintain everything in a rig quite nicely. Unless of course they've got an unnatural amount of data :P Needless to say, I gave the drive to my brother, and explained how the drive works. I suggested that he only run it when backing things up...Which is really what they're designed for.
Simply put, I think they overcharge for an external solution.
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5. October 2009 @ 03:07 |
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sammorris : Believe it or not they're about the same, 500 to 1Tere R from 1 xtreme to the next any where from 69 bucks to 105bucks . I've got 500s & 1Tere. I paid 110bucks 4 and thought it was a good deal, turned around and paid 69bucks 4 the same
Russ: my opinion on Plextor is they R just over priced, my 1st Plextor I thought I'll buy the best of the best. Well I paid 160bucks 4 a DVD RW, it went out in 3 mons. At the same purchase I bought an off brand 79bucks [ it turned out 2B an NEC with a different label]it lasted 5yrs..That was the last time I ever bought by name brand. I've learned over the yrs NAME BRAND DON'T MEAN BETTER . Everything goes from good to bad & bad to good
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5. October 2009 @ 08:41 |
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Yeah I have to agree with Rick here, I've seen pretty poor reviews of Plextor stuff over the last couple of years.
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5. October 2009 @ 21:06 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
I'm LAZY I know . Does AD have a Discussion Forum on MKV Movies , if so could U Kindly point me to the link
Try looking in here
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21. October 2009 @ 17:10 |
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Russ
i got a friend here at work that next month he is going to build him a AMD system. he is wanting the AM3 cpu. the Phenom IIx4 955. what is the best gigabyte AM3 mobo. i know this is an opinon call. but you all seem to keep up on the amd stuff way more than i do. he said he would like to go SLI with it to and im sure that would be DDR3 mem as well??
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21. October 2009 @ 18:32 |
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Try and force him not to get a 955. There are plenty of good AMD chips out there, but frankly, the 955 isn't one of them. Go for a 945 (the 95W version) for a powerful, energy efficient AMD quad core build.
SLI with an AMD system really isn't doable (yes, there are nforce chipsets, but they're ghastly) - if he must have dual graphics, make it crossfire. If it must be nvidia, a GTX275 will surely suffice (or heck, maybe even a GTX295). The fact that AMD is the backbone of the system suggests it's not a top-end gaming rig anyway.
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21. October 2009 @ 18:32 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Russ
i got a friend here at work that next month he is going to build him a AMD system. he is wanting the AM3 cpu. the Phenom IIx4 955. what is the best gigabyte AM3 mobo. i know this is an opinon call. but you all seem to keep up on the amd stuff way more than i do. he said he would like to go SLI with it to and im sure that would be DDR3 mem as well??
Rob,
I'm very partial to the MA790X-UD4P. So far it's been a great MB! No On Board Graphics either! CrossFire, too!
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. October 2009 @ 18:34 |
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I'd agree with Russ here. The 790X boards are excellent, and Gigabyte's high-end offerings are as good as they get.
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21. October 2009 @ 18:45 |
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The fact that AMD is the backbone of the system suggests it's not a top-end gaming rig anyway.
That's subjective. I would believe my gaming rig to be quite top end :)
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21. October 2009 @ 18:50 |
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High-end yes. Top-end I'm not so sure. I could have an i5, P55 board, 4GB of good RAM, a pair of HD5850s with case, PSU, drives, all in for £1000, which is a very reasonable budget for a "top-end" gaming PC, realistically, it's a little on the stingy side, and clocked up to 3.7-3.8 ish which is doable with one-touch on some MSI boards - I'd have a PC that would dramatically outmatch your gaming PC.
Due to the mild overclock I wouldn't say my own real PC bests yours by very much at all, but the fact remains you can build a system that eats a Phenom II alive, especially if you're willing to overclock, for a very reasonable price. As I often state, AMD have some sweet products, but they just don't have anything "top end".
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21. October 2009 @ 18:51 |
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21. October 2009 @ 18:53 |
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21. October 2009 @ 18:56 |
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Interesting idea. Call me pessimistic but I still think this feature gets way more hype than it should.
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21. October 2009 @ 19:01 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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The fact that AMD is the backbone of the system suggests it's not a top-end gaming rig anyway.
That's subjective. I would believe my gaming rig to be quite top end :)
Estuansis,
I couldn't agree more. I'm sure AMD doesn't sponsor Gaming Teams for nothing, so I think they are pretty darn good! I'll let you know as soon as I get an Athlon II x4 630! If I can get this eMachine I have fixed and sold, I'll have it! LOL!!
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21. October 2009 @ 19:07 |
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There's a bit of conflicting terminology here. I chose the phrase "top end" rather than "high end" for a reason. We're not talking stupid low budget barebone "high end" here, when I say high end, I mean it.
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21. October 2009 @ 19:10 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/10/21/asus-refines-amd-core-unlocking/1
Shaff,
Most motherboards have similar functioning features. It's nothing new! My UD4H will let me run a duff core at lower speeds to make use of a bad core if possible. AMD Overdrive functions the same way. In fact you can set each core's OC individually, and test each core at any speed. Each core can have it's voltage set as well!
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21. October 2009 @ 19:11 |
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i know that, this is just sayign that you can choose what cores you want enabled/disabled
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21. October 2009 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
There's a bit of conflicting terminology here. I chose the phrase "top end" rather than "high end" for a reason. We're not talking stupid low budget barebone "high end" here, when I say high end, I mean it.
Yeah, but you don't think any AMD is worthy of "high end" status! Most here can't afford to build a "high end" rig at the moment, so it's totally pointless to even mention! Somehow, the rest of us will not die because we don't own an i7 and can't afford one. The name of the game today is value for your Dollar! A Phenom II-940 or 945 would fit the bill very nicely! It and the MA790X-UD4H motherboard is a lot of quality bang for the buck! Use the money you save to get a better video card!
I'm about a couple of weeks away from ordering a 2.8GHz Athlon IIx4 630, and then I'll see what it's made of! Should be fun!
Russ
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21. October 2009 @ 20:01 |
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Actually Russ, yes I do:
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High-end yes. Top-end I'm not so sure.
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Use the money you save to get a better video card!
There's not a great deal of point. Unless you're going for high-end graphics power, you don't need anything more than, say a GTX275 or HD4890. If you want more than that, your budget is high enough to buy a Core i5.
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21. October 2009 @ 21:36 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I'm about a couple of weeks away from ordering a 2.8GHz Athlon IIx4 630, and then I'll see what it's made of! Should be fun!
Russ
Have you thought about the Athlon II X3 435: AMD's Three-Core, 2.9 GHz, $87 Triple-Threat?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-ii-x3,2452.html#
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21. October 2009 @ 21:47 |
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Hard to find the 435 at the moment though - there's a small number around in the UK, not available at newegg currently. The 630 is a more efficient chip though really, another core for no extra TDP, and only an extra $35. If I had to choose between the two I'd take the 630. If I had to choose any AMD for that sort of price I'd buy an X2 550.
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21. October 2009 @ 23:53 |
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Originally posted by sytyguy:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
I'm about a couple of weeks away from ordering a 2.8GHz Athlon IIx4 630, and then I'll see what it's made of! Should be fun!
Russ
Have you thought about the Athlon II X3 435: AMD's Three-Core, 2.9 GHz, $87 Triple-Threat?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athl...2.html#
sytyguy,
I was considering the Phenom II x3 720BE, but the Athlon II x4 630 pretty much equaled or beat it in just about every test I've seen. Not a BE, but it can stand some decent CPU Host Clock speed. 3.7 to 3.8 seems pretty decent to me, and I know of two at that speed on UD4Hs!
You did notice in Tom's review that the Athlon II x3 435 was overclocked about 800MGh? The others were stock! No 630 included either, only the 620, which isn't worth buying because the 630 is so much better for $22 more. It did a pretty good job squaring off against the Q8200, Q8300 and the Q9550 in previous reviews.
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. October 2009 @ 23:54 |
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The X2 550 BE or the X3 720 BE are the best budget chips out. The Athlon II X4 is a happy compromise for mass mfgs and good market filler but little else. Most individual builders will be getting the Phenom II parts just because they are so fast and cheap. The X3 720 BE is supposed to be an excellent value I'm told and offers the advantages of multi threading but with only 3 cores. It scales well though and OCs quite decently. Looking to be about 3.5-3.8GHz on average. Not to mention it's a fully featured Phenom II with 6MB of L3 cache. The Athlon II, while still way faster than an original Phenom, has none. This has to make a difference between the 630 X4 and the 720 X3. They'll each be better at certain things but the 720 has more raw power. And at $115 now I think it's about as good as it gets.
Of course I understand everyone has their own individual needs so buy what suits you.
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22. October 2009 @ 00:09 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
The X2 550 BE or the X3 720 BE are the best budget chips out. The Athlon II X4 is a happy compromise for mass mfgs and good market filler but little else. Most individual builders will be getting the Phenom II parts just because they are so fast and cheap. The X3 720 BE is supposed to be an excellent value I'm told and offers the advantages of multi threading but with only 3 cores. It scales well though and OCs quite decently. Looking to be about 3.5-3.8GHz on average. Not to mention it's a fully featured Phenom II with 6MB of L3 cache. The Athlon II, while still way faster than an original Phenom, has none. This has to make a difference between the 630 X4 and the 720 X3. They'll each be better at certain things but the 720 has more raw power. And at $115 now I think it's about as good as it gets.
Of course I understand everyone has their own individual needs so buy what suits you.
Estuansis,
All I did was go back and re-read the reviews I posted a month or so ago. I took special note, of the 720BE and the 630's performance. At the end of the tests, and I added up all the scores, the 630 was the clear winner between the triple and the quad. I don't mind telling you that I was surprised. The 630 won more outright, than the 720BE did!
Russ
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