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toptinker
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7. December 2007 @ 10:35 |
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hello i use dvd shrink and put it on my hard drive (with any dvd running in the task bar) i then use voblanker to correct any errors and save it.i then use dvd shrink/nero to burn, but sometimes i get burn errors at this point. anyone have any tips
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7. December 2007 @ 10:48 |
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toptinker,
What errors are you having? Please post your log.
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7. December 2007 @ 12:52 |
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hi cheers just got the error of dvd-video files reallocation fail,i used dvdshrink/nero
error report =
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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 13:54:32
NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 7.5.7.0
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Internal Version: 7, 5, 7, 0
Recorder: <PHILIPS SPD2400L1> Version: Y5H3 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.5.7.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : IVI Virtual CD 0.5a iviVD Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : IC35L080AVVA07-0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS SPD2400L1 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
IVI Virtual CD D: CDRom1
PHILIPS SPD2400L1 E: CDRom0
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048096kB)
Free physical memory: 582MB (596092kB)
Memory in use : 43 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
7.12.2007
NeroAPI
17:31:12 #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 282
DVD-Video files reallocation started
17:31:12 #2 DVDREALLOC -124 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 1294
17:31:12 #3 Phase 115 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 282
DVD-Video files reallocation failed
17:31:12 #4 Text 0 File NeroAPIBurnFS.cpp, Line 218
Failed to realloc DVD video files
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=9464 bytes, created 28/09/2007 16:07:50
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.56a, size=43528 bytes, created 28/09/2007 16:07:50 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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9. December 2007 @ 20:39 |
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toptinker,
If you are using AnyDVD to break through the protections, you can omit Vobblanker. Now, open your files through DVD Shrink and try burning wit ImgBurn this time around. By the way, make sure AnyDVD is up to date.
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9. December 2007 @ 21:21 |
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Originally posted by pryme_H:
toptinker,
If you are using AnyDVD to break through the protections, you can omit Vobblanker. Now, open your files through DVD Shrink and try burning wit ImgBurn this time around. By the way, make sure AnyDVD is up to date.
@pryme_H
Why would he want to omit using VobBlanker? VobBlanker is a fantastic program to use to get rid of unwanted material. I highly recommend the use of it unless you have a better program like DVDRMP.
toptinker,
You can rip with AnyDVD. Right click the little fox head in the task bar and tell it to Rip Video DVD to Harddisk... Just create a folder called the name of the movie and then tell it to copy.
Then open VobBlanker and do your usual routine. After to have processed the files open them in DVD Shrink to Shrink/Burn the files. Now I agree with pryme_H that burning with ImgBurn is a good idea. You may download that program for free here: http://www.imgburn.com/
The other thing that you might keep in mind is that AnyDVD is not successful all of the time. Sometimes I have to use either RI4M or DVDFab HD Decrypter. You may download Fab HD here: http://dvdfab.com/free.htm Normally AnyDVD works great but their are occasions when Fab will work better. The DVD File Allocation on your burn could be because of a bad rip. Give it a shot and I hope that it works. Good Luck!
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9. December 2007 @ 22:33 |
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Quote:
@pryme_H
Why would he want to omit using VobBlanker? VobBlanker is a fantastic program to use to get rid of unwanted material. I highly recommend the use of it unless you have a better program like DVDRMP.
syxguns,
The reason I said this is because AnyDVD has a built-in capability similar to that of Vobblanker and FixVTS. Additionally, he/she has DVD files allocation failure which could be the result of missing DVD files. This is very likely if you are unsure of what you're doing when using Vobblanker.
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10. December 2007 @ 11:52 |
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pryme_H,
I will agree with you to a point. Normally VobBlanker does not mess up the DVD File Structure, unless you tell it to remove instead of blank out material. 9 out of 10 times VobBlanker is not the problem, but the rip is the problem.
As far as AnyDVD you are wrong a little bit. I believe that what you are referring to is CloneDVD. Using AnyDVD with CloneDVD you do have the same features as FixVTS & VobBlanker, but I didn't see CloneDVD mentioned in tptinker's post. That is why I suggested ripping with DVDFab. As great a program as AnyDVD is, it still fails from time to time. It is always good to have two or three different ripping programs to make sure that the job gets done.
There have been many times that I have ripped with AnyDVD, but the file structure is messed up after the rip. In many cases DVDFab, or use to be RI4M would get the job done correctly. I'm able to see the file structure after the rip because I use DVD ReMake Pro. With the program I can change the file structure if I need to, but I normally just rip the DVD again. Any file structure changes that I make are after I have a good clean rip.
Now if you have a combination of AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 then you may rip and encode at the same time. This is a great combination, but I like DVD-RB for quality backups.
So, I wasn't ragging on you, I just think you got the programs mixed up. CloneDVD2 is what I think you were referring to. :-)
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11. December 2007 @ 19:59 |
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Originally posted by toptinker:
dvd-video files reallocation fail
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=9464 bytes, created
dvd-video files reallocation fail
i believe is normally caused by copyprotections
are you at the lastest version of anddvd?
You have Roxio installed, it clashes with Nero, to remove, run this zapper http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Roxio-Zap.shtml
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toptinker
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13. December 2007 @ 12:13 |
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thanks for all hte info, i did use img burn and it worked ok. what i think i will do now is use any dvd/decrpter and put it on my hdrive,use voblanker then use dvd shrink and then imgburn ok any comments ?
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13. December 2007 @ 12:22 |
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i do all my stuff by ripping to harddrive with dvdfab first then use shrink or recode.if i get an error when using shrink/recode i will use fixit or VobBlanker to clean up.
the old vs of dvd decrypter is outdated for some later stuff thats why i like dvdfab
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13. December 2007 @ 13:59 |
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Originally posted by toptinker:
what i think i will do now is use any dvd/decrpter and put it on my hdrive,use voblanker then use dvd shrink and then imgburn ok any comments ?
Are you saying that you are going to rip it with AnyDVD or with DVD Decrypter? As born2ride said,
Originally posted by born2ride:
i do all my stuff by ripping to harddrive with dvdfab first then use shrink or recode.if i get an error when using shrink/recode i will use fixit or VobBlanker to clean up.
the old vs of dvd decrypter is outdated for some later stuff thats why i like dvdfab
Do not use DVD-D to rip with. Rip with AnyDVD, RI4M, or DVDFab HD Decrypter. Then use VobBlanker, then Shrink, then ImgBurn. ImgBurn is a fantastic burning engine and very compact. Not like Nero and other software packages. You can even burn a VIDEO_TS folder with it if you know how. Here is a guide by my buddy Alkohol Guide Link
Unlike born2ride, I use to run everything through VobBlanker to get rid of unwanted material and wasted cell space. You can reduce the size of the folder quite a bit with the use of it. I now use DVDReMake Pro. It is a much more powerful program that allows you to also make changes to menu's! DVDReMake Pro Link You will see a banner on the page for DVDReMake. If you select the banner you will be taken to a download page.
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13. December 2007 @ 14:14 |
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syxguns
what did you use before dvdremake?
i found imgburn so confusing even with all the availible guides.
even dvd dec was a pain and i gave up on it.
went to dvdfab and shrink then found recode.
ripit was good after it did every thing for you.
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13. December 2007 @ 14:48 |
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Originally posted by born2ride:
syxguns
what did you use before dvdremake?
i found imgburn so confusing even with all the availible guides.
even dvd dec was a pain and i gave up on it.
went to dvdfab and shrink then found recode.
ripit was good after it did every thing for you.
Before DVDReMake I used VobBlanker to blank out cells. DVDReMake does the same thing, but it also gives you the ability to put multiple disks on one DVD, split episodes from DVD to DVD, change DVD Structure from within the program, Change menu's or create new menu's, etc. It is a very nice program and worth every cent. DVD Lab Pro is another good piece of software but it is a little too expensive. I think DVDReMake Pro is 50 bucks.
As far as ImgBurn goes it is really not that difficult to understand. In many cases people tend to use Shrink to burn an ISO image to use with ImgBurn, but I use the build feature in ImgBurn to burn the VIDEO_TS folder. It is just a different way to burn, and I like it better. Keeping the folder in a VIDEO_TS file allows me to make additional adjustments to the files before they are burned.
RipIt4Me was and still is a great program. It will still rip just about everything, but I don't really like to use it. I feel that it takes to long. I rip with AnyDVD or DVDFab which only takes around 15 min., then I run it through DVDRMP. On 99% of my backups I use DVD-RB, but every once in a while on a title that I don't need a quality backup on I will use Shrink or Recode. I almost always burn with Nero now, but I use to burn with ImgBurn all the time.
Edit: It is okay that you gave up on DVD Derypter. You have to make a number of adjustments to get it to work, and even then it doesn't sometimes. I use to use it and make adjustments on it, but it got to be too time consuming to get a rip! With DVDFab who needs to mess with it any longer?
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13. December 2007 @ 17:26 |
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syxguns
thanks.
so you use dvrbp before dvdrb. is all the extra time really worth it?
i assume you are doing it for better quality. yes.
on imgburn i think thats where i was getting lost iso file or VIDEO_TS file. trying to understand what they are..
is real easy to follow guide but to actually know whats happen is a learning challenge for me....lol
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13. December 2007 @ 22:23 |
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Originally posted by born2ride:
so you use dvrbp before dvdrb. is all the extra time really worth it? i assume you are doing it for better quality. yes.
I run just about everything that I backup through DVDRMP. Even if I don't change menu's in the film I still get rid of blank cells that occupy space, FBI Warning, and other undesirable information. I remove previews, directors commentary, other languages, and subtitles. I use to do the same thing with VobBlanker, but DVDRMP is easier to use. In many cases when I remove subtitles I may change the subtitle feature on the menu so that you never even knew it was once an option. In some cases it only takes me about an extra half an hour to do. In some cases it takes me around an hour and a half to do. Many backups I do not bother with, but for special movies I do take the extra time to get them perfect.
Of course I have programs for editing images, and in some cases I can take a still shot from the film to create a new menu all together. After you work with the program a couple of times you will find that it is easy to use.
Originally posted by born2ride:
on imgburn i think thats where i was getting lost iso file or VIDEO_TS file. trying to understand what they are..
is real easy to follow guide but to actually know whats happen is a learning challenge for me....lol
A VIDEO_TS Folder stands for, " Video Title Set". It is a UDF (Universal Disk Format)is a format specification for storing optical media. There are many variety of files inside a VIDEO_TS folder and the files inside also represent the DVD Structure. I will not try to explain it all. I found a pdf document you can read to give you a better understanding. PDF Link
An ISO image: Wikipedia Link After you read the link you will have a little better understanding of an ISO image. The reason I do not make an ISO file before I burn is in case I need to make additional adjustments to the files if there is a failure, or if after viewing the show I realize I want to make additional changes. I let my burner create the image file for me.
That is why I mentioned burning a VIDEO_TS folder with ImgBurn. I'm not like a lot of people that just want to get a backup. I believe in quality and I want my backups to show it.
Feel free to ask me any questions that you may have. I'll be happy to share my knowledge. After all I do have around 1500 backups and counting!!
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14. December 2007 @ 08:29 |
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thanks i am going to print them are read later.
i will mostly wear you out with all the question.:)
really appericate it.
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14. December 2007 @ 10:03 |
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Not a problem born2ride. You can always PM me with questions as well, or start a new thread in the software forum and direct me to it. Starting a new thread, or a PM will keep us from hijacking toptinker's thread. Of course he hasn't replied, but still the subject of the thread is "a few problems".
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14. December 2007 @ 11:21 |
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ok thanks
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toptinker
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14. December 2007 @ 12:52 |
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no worries guys, your chat has given me some ideas and i love the tips about editing stuff . cheers t.tinker
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toptinker
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15. December 2007 @ 08:06 |
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how about this, just used dvd shrink and saved the film to my hard drive (no probs)should i just use imgburn to burn it to disc or do u think i should use voblanker before hand (doesnt really take to long)
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15. December 2007 @ 08:52 |
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Originally posted by syxguns :
Do not use DVD-D to rip with
This is the second thread lately you've told people not to use the program at all. Some old timers like me would wish you'd say something like "by itself" because with AnyDvd, my Decrypter (File Mode) still works like a champ. Extra settings to worry about? Two, maybe 3 clicks the first time its ran. Set it and forget it.
DVDFab might be easier for most people because of its updates, its free, and you dont need to further pay for AnyDVD, but it doesnt do anything special DVDDecrypter cant. A complete set of files comes from either program, DVDFabs's files arent better than DVDDecrypters, its just updated as a ripper for newer movies. Lately theres been a few films with protections that DVDFab has updated before AnyDVD did. Thats like twice in the last 2 years (1000 rips) I had to use something besides my old timer combo.
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15. December 2007 @ 08:55 |
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toptinker
really its a matter of preference. everyone here seems to have there own way.
if your having problem you need to follow what your recommend to do so it can be worked out.
so you ripped the movie to hd with shrink. your choice is to use vobblanker or just burn it. to me i just burn as is. if you like to play around use vobblanker
if shrink was able to rip the movies most likely does not have much copy protection on it. shrink is an outdated program when used by itself.
it works great when you use an up to date ripper as dvdfab.
then your only using shrink to compress if needed.
edit my spelling
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15. December 2007 @ 09:50 |
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Originally posted by toptinker:
how about this, just used dvd shrink and saved the film to my hard drive (no probs)should i just use imgburn to burn it to disc or do u think i should use voblanker before hand (doesnt really take to long)
Just to piggy back...It's really a matter of preference. If you're finicky about your backups, then I suggest you use Vobblanker. Although, I would use it prior to DVD Shrink. Afterwards, write data using ImgBurn.
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15. December 2007 @ 12:36 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by syxguns :
Do not use DVD-D to rip with
This is the second thread lately you've told people not to use the program at all. Some old timers like me would wish you'd say something like "by itself" because with AnyDvd, my Decrypter (File Mode) still works like a champ. Extra settings to worry about? Two, maybe 3 clicks the first time its ran. Set it and forget it.
DVDFab might be easier for most people because of its updates, its free, and you dont need to further pay for AnyDVD, but it doesnt do anything special DVDDecrypter cant. A complete set of files comes from either program, DVDFabs's files arent better than DVDDecrypters, its just updated as a ripper for newer movies. Lately theres been a few films with protections that DVDFab has updated before AnyDVD did. Thats like twice in the last 2 years (1000 rips) I had to use something besides my old timer combo.
I will agree with you for a bit, but because AnyDVD includes a ripper I don't use DVD-D. I did at first a couple of years ago until I realized that AnyDVD included a ripper that a lot of people do not know about! DVD-D is a great program, don't get me wrong about that. Sometimes when you are dealing with people that do not understand the different settings that need to be changed in the preference area of DVD-D, then they are going to have problem. You need to understand that just because you are stuck in old school, which isn't a problem for someone of your expertise, there are free programs that can get the job done easier. The fact that AnyDVD has a ripper and you do not utilize it leads me to believe that you are behind the times.
Yes there are times when DVDFab is updated before AnyDVD and I have had to use it on numerous occasions to get a rip. But I do not see you mentioning RI4M either. RI4M is a great program for newbies to burning and we as members are suppose to help them get the movies backed up.
Trust me when I say that I do not use Shrink, DVD-D, or VobBlanker any longer. I have paid for programs that give me better quality and allow me to change DVD Structure if need be. I am just trying to help people understand that their are better ways to do it. I would suggest that you write a guide on the use of DVD-D and AnyDVD and then post links to the guide. You will need to include pictures in the guide because most don't like to read, of don't understand what you are saying.
@toptinker
As pryme_H said, you should run VobBlaner before Shrink. This will give you better quality. If you run it now, which you could, you will be getting rid of items and making the overall size of the output smaller. Remember that if you are going to use DVD Shrink it is the last thing that you do before you burn.
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15. December 2007 @ 13:26 |
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Originally posted by syxguns:
The fact that AnyDVD has a ripper and you do not utilize it leads me to believe that you are behind the times.
Hey there no need to get personal :P I'm sooo behind the times I remember when ANyDVD didnt have a ripper, and when the option came available, I tried it, they didnt have all the bugs worked out so I went back to something that I knew worked.
I have used RI4M and still do frequently, Wizard mode is nice because I stop the process before Shrink and use DVD-RB instead. Its nice to have different tools. Quote:
I would suggest that you write a guide on the use of DVD-D and AnyDVD and then post links to the guide.
Heres my attempt...
Proceed to the DVD Decrypter Opening Page - Tools - Settings
1. I/O Tab - Click on "Elby CDIO-Elaborate Bytes"
2. General Tab - un-check "Check For Structure Protection"
DVDDecrypter will see the disc as unprotected and will continue to work... forever. I quoted so heres the link http://club.cdfreaks.com/f74/clonedvd-dl-layer-breaks-139161/
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