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18. February 2006 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and there was WOMD saddam stood up in court the other day and admited it they moved them ,why cant you seem to understand that!!!
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18. February 2006 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh yeah Saddam is a very reputable source...Golly Gee Saddam wouldn't lie.







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18. February 2006 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The whole "45 minute" thing was just a farce too. We had a scientist called David Kelly who died in mysterious circumstances, he questioned the 45 minute clain, him & his colleagues laughed about it!
Scott Ritter also made valid points as to the state of the so called WMD too. He's probably one of those pot smoking liberals we hear so much about nowadays

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Between Iraq's invasion

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keep buying the lie guys ,iam sure iraq never had them ,yeah right lol
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Who sold Iraq its' technology? The Brits & the Yanks. We are both guilty of this, it was so Iraq could fight Iran. Who trained Bin Laden? Who warned the US about him, Oliver North. His worries were dismissed though.
I work with a chap who used to work for Marconi, he actually met Saddam when the Brits sold them defective radio equipment!

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Quote from your text;

"The quality of the intelligence analysis has also come under scrutiny. The failure to find weapons stocks or active production lines, undermining claims by the October 2002 NIE and both President Bush and Secretary of State Colin Powell (Document 16, Document 27), has been one particular cause for criticism."

And another;

"By the time of the creation of the ISG, and continuing to the date of this publication, a controversy has existed over the performance of U.S. (and British) intelligence in collecting and evaluating information about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction programs. The reliability of sources has been questioned. It has been suggested that some human intelligence may have been purposeful deception by the Iraqi intelligence and security services, while exiles and defectors may have provided other intelligence seeking to influence U.S. policy."

I think that says it all.

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yeah and Bill Clinton had the chance to take out ben laden but didnt have to balls to do it was to busy getting blow jobs in the white house. what a POS he was
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All your text does is give us more ammo....

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I've seen the theory about the pentagon before and the movie too. I does seem mysterious, but no one has been able to answer this question!

What happened to the plane that was supposed to have hit the pentagon with all the passengers aboard if it was indeed a missile that hit the pentagon instead??? Where are they? There was no other crash that day that I remember.
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This is the only thing that people can come up with that was wrong with Clinton.....he was a horndog....that is weak.

Our economy was in the best shape it had been in several decades when willy the horndog was in office.Bush had to reclassify jobs so that flipping burgers was considered and industrial job so he could boast about the unemployment rate...yeah right great leader LOL

You are right pulsar,he caught his pants on his own pitchfork LOL







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he says hi to bill clinton,
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I find this image quite disturbing.....

http://my.afterdawn.com/pulsar/show_image.cfm/2283

One for the collection Ireland?

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did you notice how many countries was involved with the un sanctioned coalition in the 1st gulf war compared to the non-sanctioned coalition of the 2nd gulf war? i wonder why!!??
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Hmmm, I wonder why.........


Still thinking.......



Still thinking.......

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sorry, guys, but i'm gonna have to drop a few levels to argue with this one...hope you'll forgive me:
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to busy getting blow jobs in the white house.
at least his ass was in the white house, instead of chasing his drunken daughters all over the US, cleaning up their messes and spending the rest of the time in his Texas ranch vacationing.


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We need to get our troops out of that country now. The Day we found out there was no WMD in Iraq we should have pulled our troops out. Screw that country, I mean people say we are doing a good thing staying there and helping the country out. Reasons to pull out now..1. Our mission was to find WMD and take Saddam out of power. 2.Those people are screwed up and there will never be peace there. They are teaching little children to strap bombs on themselves, the viloence will never end. 3. We should just pull out now, because whenever we leave the three major religious groups in Iraq will just start a civil war anyway. Our troops are dying for nothing right now. 4. Iran is becoming a greater threat than Iraq ever was, and our troops are spread out.


As for Bush, screw him..at least clinton put more money in our pockets with a better economy..this president is screwing everything up.



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I agree we need to leave now. But our going there in the first place has left a weakened country at the mercy of the Mullahs from Iran. When we leave they will create Iran in Iraq and control all the oil. Something to mull over while filling up.
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Wow, my friend AAABB(alphabet) is right. The poor old conservatives don't stand a chance in here. Good damned thing I am a moderate.

@pulsar and weazel200: You guys are nuts. lol I would bet the U.S. never landed on the moon, either. :)

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I agree we need to leave now. But our going there in the first place has left a weakened country at the mercy of the Mullahs from Iran. When we leave they will create Iran in Iraq and control all the oil. Something to mull over while filling up.
Sooner or later we will invade Iran anyway..and well probably have more allies too. They are breaking to many U.N. rules. No matter what the U.S is screwed..and Bush puts on a happy face and tells the American people we are making a safer world..haha thats why Iran is making Uranium..North Korea has at least 2 nukes..Palestine is now controlled by Hammas..{terrorist group] and will probably continue suicide bombing Israel. We are not making a world a safer place with fixing Iraq.



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i have to agree that there probably won't ever be peace in the Middle East. the religious factors there are extremely devoted, and are quite sure that their way (proven or not) is the only right way, and thus everyone who disagrees is wrong and must be chastised, tortured, and/or executed. they are filled with too much hate to see anyone else's views as equal or viable, and refuse to tolerate each other so as to live in happy peace.

they probably realize how ludicrous their views are and are fighting with blind anger to save face, similar to japanese soldiers committing suicide to die in honor over defeat.

hmmm...this mindset sounds awfully familiar. could it be a universal thing? or at least spread over many a continent?


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Nelson Mandela was a convicted terrorist, he advocated bombing, yet he is now a hero. The Palestinians bomb the Israelis as they stole a lot of their land & they have built a wall which was condemned by the UN.

Hmmm, took land that wasn't theirs, that sounds familiar...

I find it mildly amusing that a country has democratic elections, & the group who come to power is not favoured by certain world powers. Is it only democracy if the leaders toe the line? Why shouldn't Iran have nuclear capabilities, India has, Pakistan has, Israel has..... The world is full of double standards.

@ GrandpaBw, at least I have the ability to hold an adult conversation, articulate my feelings & have a mind of my own. If someone seriously think that one political group is better than the other... then it's not me that's nuts! ;)

As for the moon, is that the best you can do!!! LMAO!!

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Why shouldn't Iran have nuclear capabilities, India has, Pakistan has, Israel has..... The world is full of double standards.
I dont think the major powers of the world really wanted India and Pakistan to have them, but now they do, and we do not want a nucluer war So the U.S is kind of ignoring the fact they have them. As for Israel..well yea they have them..but their tough people..Just my OPINON but i dont think they would use them..the U.S has already said it would drop the bomb for them if anybody dropped one on Israel.





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I don't think it is the worlds' business who has what, certain countries are selective as to whom they would drop a bomb on, What about the way that China treats its' people? Or North Korea. Hmmm....

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