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problems with king kong and narnia
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wsmm
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5. April 2006 @ 16:22 |
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Well, I am no expert in these matters, but I tried using DVDShrink 3.2.0.15; with DVD43 running in the background. (Didn't work)
Then used DVD Decrypter then I tried to open with DVD Shrink (didn't work) (Invalid data in file...blah blah)
Then I tried DVDFab Decrypter, and the files wouldn't load when i triedto use DVD Shrink and DVD ImgTool Burn, so I am out of ideas.
Any help? Any luck? Anyone?
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wsmm
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5. April 2006 @ 16:25 |
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I didn't read all forum responses. Sorry. Don't respond to this :)
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5. April 2006 @ 16:33 |
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@wsmm
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How about AnyDVD :)
seems to me like you tried everything except AnyDVD and CloneDVD, which I personally, amongst many others here believe to be the best and pretty much superior products out there. You do have to pay for them, however you shouldn't ever have a problem as they are constantly updated, granted you use good media too. Make sure to update firmware too. Anyway there is the trial versions of the products I mentioned. Download and give a shot. If you don't like and it doesn't work then there was no harm in it. You didn't have to pay. www.slysoft.com
make sure you burner also supports your media and that you updated the firmware. from what i read of your problems, (could be other factors as well) if you decide not to go with the above mentioned. Give it a shot and let us know.
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mousejean
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5. April 2006 @ 16:39 |
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Narnia, DVDneXtCOPY,35-40 MINS.
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GodWTF
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5. April 2006 @ 17:25 |
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Ok, I backed up king kong onto my computer last night. I used DvdDecrypter, and that worked fine. I used DvdShrink 3.2 to compress the movie onto a verbatim DVD+R. The qualty was bad. The movements of the characters were fluid, but blotchy. The compression % was 51. I bought a verbatim DVD+R Dual Layer and burned the movie with no compression. The quality looks exactly the same. Should I delete the old backup, and back it up again with dvddecrypter? Any suggestions on how to improve the quality.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 17:32 |
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Rip with DVD Decrypter in File mode. Process with FixVTS, transcode with DVD Shrink. Free and processing with FixVTS only takes a few minutes. Completely free.
AnyDVD trial, free for 3 weeks, then you gotta buy. Easiest way to do the backup. Works with most software. Noted they may not have all the bugs out of the new AnyDVD version. Tried it with DVDCopy 4 from InterVideo and some of the titles in scene selections weren't available. Ripping to the HD seems to work okay.
The hard way is trying to manually edit the problem files, but can be done. If you get a rip, often doing movie only will get rid of problems.
@mcmenace
Don't laugh too soon. There is new encryption slated for the Vista OS and new HD hardware. Also there is supposedly a new encryption slated for the new high definition DVD releases, whether the HD DVD or Bluray. Hopefully Microsoft won't burden us with the curse of OS encryption along with the hardware and media. MS was dragging their feet, but it's still up in the air as to their going along with the movie industry. That's not just idle rumor, PC World and other reputable sources have been discussing the upcoming technology.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 17:35 |
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GodWTF
You're not going to beat the DL with no compression. You can come close to DL recording using a true encoder with a setup like RB/CCE.
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5. April 2006 @ 17:47 |
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Kink Kong was easy. AnyDVD-NeroExpress DLVerb+R>100%
Narnia. AnyDVD and NeroRecode did not play well together , but AnyDVD and Shrink did, then burn with Nero about 59%comp., just movie.
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mcmenace
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5. April 2006 @ 17:53 |
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@brobear
All that you said may be true or it may not be true it's pure speculation at this stage, but as we've seen over the years, just about anything that can be engineered can be reverse engineered and from that knowledge, there is hope, regardless of what they say and do. It may take time, but I have confidence that there is no panacea that will stop people who want to back up their own property. I backed up a "superbit" DVD, whatever that is - they were touting it as nextgen, with NP the usual way. BTW, graphics didn't look any different to me. If all that stuff you were referring to requires new hardware, especially home dvd players etc, it will be a while, look at HDTV and how long that's taken to implement. Things keep getting pushed back farther and farther as John Q. Public can only take so much at once.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 18:03 |
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Part of what I mentioned is down the road. Part of the hardware encryption as far as hardware usage is already in place. Monitors and other equipment have to be Vista compatible for viewing the new HD content. That isn't speculation. As for the HDDVD and Bluray and their encryption, that is still speculation to some degree, but no doubt it will be more difficult than what we have now.
Somebody was pulling your leg on superbit, that's still current copyright protection. About the worst they've got out for DVD release at present is the new Arccoss, ripguard protection that causes compliance errors. As long a a person is aware of it, it's posed no serious problems. Even before AnyDVD incorporated FixVTS, there were a lot of people ripping with AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter and processing with FixVTS or VobBlanker before that. There's always DVD Decrypter with PgcEdit and the PSL2 files, but the novice has to follow a guide the first few times through and it is a bit time consuming. As time passes and more releases have the newer copyright protection, DVD Decrypter will continue to do fewer by itself.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 18:04 |
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Narnia and DVDneXtCopy.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 18:14 |
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Recode set to burn Narnia:
That's from hard drive files, the AnyDVD wouldn't do the job on the fly with Recode. DVDneXtCopy will work with help, but not by itself. It's all in how you handle the copyright protection. Once that's done properly, just about any appropriate software can finish up.
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GodWTF
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5. April 2006 @ 18:20 |
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Hey brobear. I'm not really understaning what you're telling me. I'm a pretty big newbie. Could you explain it a little more to me. I'd really appreciate it.
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mousejean
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5. April 2006 @ 18:26 |
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machinist2 or AnyDVD with dvdneXtcopy should cure that error
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 18:30 |
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There's no mystery to it. Once you have a source that is both cleaned of copyright protection and DVD compliant (able to be used by the software), most any transcoder or encoder can finish the job or the files can be burned with dual layer media with no compression. Whether one uses an app like AnyDVD by itself as a background (driver)decrypter or in unison with a ripper to get hard drive files the user has to realize those files may not always be compliant for every program. If those files are ripped to the hard drive and processed for compliance with an app such as FixVTS or VobBlanker, then they should be compatible with all apps. The process and how far one goes depends on how difficult the copyright protection is and how well apps play together. AnyDVD normally works well with most apps, but on occasion it works better with the CloneDVD 2 that it is custom tailored to work with. Hope that didn't confuse you more.
As I've pointed out and stated before, different software can be used and AnyDVD doesn't have to be in the mix with Narnia. It just makes the job easier if used properly. I've noticed it doesn't work the same when just in the background with different apps, like Recode, DVDCopy 4 and CloneDVD 2. Recode wouldn't do it with AnyDVD alone. DVDCopy 4 did it with errors. CloneDVD 2 worked the way it was supposed to.
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GodWTF
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5. April 2006 @ 18:37 |
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No it didnt confuse me more. Thanks! Allright i got AnyDVD. I will get FixVTS. Hopefully that works. What would you reccomend I do? I only have a couple of Dual Layer disks left, and I dont want to get another bad quality burn.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 18:47 |
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As for Dual layer, once you have it ripped and burn at no compression, I don't know how you'd improve on that. When transcoding to a DVD5 (4.7) you can cut all the dead wood possible to improve the compression ratio. I noticed just choosing a single audio, such as Dolby instead of keeping the DTS along with it, and then going with a single language a person can move from the red to the green in CloneDVD 2. Cutting extras and going with movie only helps as well. I use RB/CCE for encoding and do the entire disc and don't worry about it. The quality is so good, I don't pick up errors viewing on a 60" screen.
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mcmenace
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5. April 2006 @ 19:01 |
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godWTF simply use clonedvd2 (free trial) and AnyDVD (free trial) and you WILL get any movie Narnia or whatever in 1/2 hour or so, no muss no fuss. If cloneDVD2 is hanging, reboot. You wont waste a disc w/ those 2. make sure AnyDVD comes up and reads narnia or whatever in your drive. Bring it up and it will tell you if it sees it. If it doesn't you got another problem, bad disc most likely, if it does, you're in bidness, just use 1st or 2nd option on clonedvd2. 1st option allows you to pick and choose what on the disc you want to copy, 2nd option does whole disc. Thats it. Tried not to confuse you, as it's really simple.
Brobear......
I have yet to meet a movie I could not get with clonedvd2, AnyDVD, and region free + css in 1/2 hour. The superbit was an actual movie, claimed all kind of stuff "superbit", HD, et al, because I rented it and saw for myself, it was a re-make of The Mask of Zorro, or the one before the latest Zorro. You can most likely find it at the local vid store, if you care to see what claims it makes. As for the other stuff, what say we cross that bridge if/when we come to it. I can't imagine somebody not being able to reverse engineer whatever they come up with. Certainly not going to lose any sleep over it =))
happy burning folks
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 19:15 |
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I can't imagine somebody not being able to reverse engineer whatever they come up with. Certainly not going to lose any sleep over it =))
I'm not losing any sleep either. As for reverse engineering, I just wonder at what cost for some of the new things. For the Vista ready hardware, that's simply a matter of buying in if you want to use the OS to view the new HD releases. XP isn't slated to be capable of handling the new HD, so that isn't an option. As you said, on down the road, but part of our problems is already a sure thing. As for the copyright protection, that's still a bit up in the air, but according to everything known, it won't be anything as easy as the CSS encryption and current copyright protections. At what cost?
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blepp
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5. April 2006 @ 19:34 |
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i tried the shrinker and at 6% encoding it stops the movie. this is a rental? any suggestions ?
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blepp
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5. April 2006 @ 19:40 |
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i read all the replies and im trying AnyDVD. i listen first next time
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uncjeffs
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5. April 2006 @ 20:14 |
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My two cents...
DVD Fab Express + DVD Shrink= Success!
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 20:19 |
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DVD Decrypter and Shrink will do Narnia alone as long as it is ripped in the ISO R mode. I went back to check out what ZebUK was talking about on the ISO file mode with DVD Decrypter. I'd accidentally left the AnyDVD on with CSS cracking on. One of those cases where the 2 don't play well together. With Narnia, this method works. The error isn't severe enough to prevent the files from processing when opened as a disc image. Shrink makes minor repairs, many of us have used it in the past instead of FixVTS or VobBlanker. So, for this one, a person can use only DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, as long as it is ripped in the ISO R mode. This is more a rarity than the norm. Try "The Fog", "The Legend of Zorro" and a number of other similarly protected releases from Region 1 and this will not work. It's been tried and proven that it requires editing for a lot of Arccoss, Ripguard protected releases.
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brobear
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5. April 2006 @ 20:21 |
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uncjeffs
Narnia is so easy, it's more difficult to find ways that it can't be backed up.
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5. April 2006 @ 20:54 |
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I was NOT able to backup Narnia using Nero Recode w/ running AnyDVD in the background.
Got some message saying file was too big to fit on disc(4.7GB).
I was able to back it up though, ripping Narnia to HD using AnyDVD.
Then opening file & using Nero Recode to burn to disc. I guess AnyDVD got rid of all those bad or bogues files first, so I was able to put onto disc.
Never had that problem before w/ any other movies ?
Glad that AnyDVD now has that rip to HD option.
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