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23. May 2008 @ 11:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK I screwed up. My image is 8.3GB when I put it into nero it jumps to 8.9GB lol. Need help with the bitrate calculator. Oh and hes my image is 1920-800.
ok movie is 1:53:17 long
framerate: 23.976
# of frames: 162983
B-Frames is checked

Audio 1 tab:
bitrate: 640
size: 51836mb
type: ac3

codec: x264
container: mkv
total size: 1 dvd9 (8138mb)

results:
average bitrate 9398
video file size 7.4gb

What do I change?

Also can I burn this using ImgBurn with UDF set to 2.5? or does is has to be nero?

thanx

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23. May 2008 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Faza_EL:
OK I screwed up. My image is 8.3GB when I put it into nero it jumps to 8.9GB lol. Need help with the bitrate calculator. Oh and hes my image is 1920-800.
ok movie is 1:53:17 long
framerate: 23.976
# of frames: 162983
B-Frames is checked

Audio 1 tab:
bitrate: 640
size: 51836mb
type: ac3

codec: x264
container: mkv
total size: 1 dvd9 (8138mb)

results:
average bitrate 9398
video file size 7.4gb

What do I change?

Also can I burn this using ImgBurn with UDF set to 2.5? or does is has to be nero?

thanx
Make your h264 file 7.0GB. This way you should have enough room for everything.

7000mb(h264 video) + 520 mb(AC3 audio) + 570mb(Blu-Ray header) = 8090mb. Use tsMuxeR to put everything back together in either m2ts or Blu-Ray. I have never used ImgBurn so I'm not sure about burning with that program, I have always used Nero... you can try though.
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26. May 2008 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One more question.
When I Enqueue my job in megui I get a warning message.
"Your AviSynth clip has the following problem:
AviSynth clip doesn't have mod 16 dimensions:
width: 1920
height: 1080
This could cause problems with some encoders, and also result in a loss of compressibility.
I suggest you resize to a mod 16 resolution.
continue anyway?"

I click yes so it does the job. Is this serious? or do I just continue?

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26. May 2008 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Faza_EL:
One more question.
When I Enqueue my job in megui I get a warning message.
"Your AviSynth clip has the following problem:
AviSynth clip doesn't have mod 16 dimensions:
width: 1920
height: 1080
This could cause problems with some encoders, and also result in a loss of compressibility.
I suggest you resize to a mod 16 resolution.
continue anyway?"

I click yes so it does the job. Is this serious? or do I just continue?
Just continue, the output will be fine.
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26. May 2008 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thxs Odin24 & Ryu77 I just did my first AVVHD dvd-9.I used the Blu-Ray profile in Megui but for some reason i can't get Ryu profile into my video profile in Megui i keep getting a error.I think its this damm Vista i got.


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26. May 2008 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Thxs Odin24 & Ryu77 I just did my first AVVHD dvd-9.I used the Blu-Ray profile in Megui but for some reason i can't get Ryu profile into my video profile in Megui i keep getting a error.I think its this damm Vista i got.
I'm running his profile just fine on Vista. Are you able to select Ryu's profile in MeGUI or is your problem before that?
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26. May 2008 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Thxs Odin24 & Ryu77 I just did my first AVVHD dvd-9.I used the Blu-Ray profile in Megui but for some reason i can't get Ryu profile into my video profile in Megui i keep getting a error.I think its this damm Vista i got.
I'm running his profile just fine on Vista. Are you able to select Ryu's profile in MeGUI or is your problem before that?
For some reason my PC doesn't read his profile as a XML Document his profile just shows up a file with a blank page.Do i need to rename the file or what do i do to get my PC to see his file?



Also om my AVCHD for some reason my aspect ratio came out 16:9 & not 2:40.1 is this normal or did i do something wrong in Megui?


This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. May 2008 @ 19:58

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26. May 2008 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Thxs Odin24 & Ryu77 I just did my first AVVHD dvd-9.I used the Blu-Ray profile in Megui but for some reason i can't get Ryu profile into my video profile in Megui i keep getting a error.I think its this damm Vista i got.
I'm running his profile just fine on Vista. Are you able to select Ryu's profile in MeGUI or is your problem before that?
For some reason my PC doesn't read his profile as a XML Document his profile just shows up a file with a blank page.Do i need to rename the file or what do i do to get my PC to see his file?



Also om my AVCHD for some reason my aspect ratio came out 16:9 & not 2:40.1 is this normal or did i do something wrong in Megui?
Not sure what's going on with the profile, maybe Ryu can help. As for the 2.40:1 issue, when you recoded did you use the AddBorders() command?
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27. May 2008 @ 05:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NexGen76:
For some reason my PC doesn't read his profile as a XML Document his profile just shows up a file with a blank page.Do i need to rename the file or what do i do to get my PC to see his file?

Also om my AVCHD for some reason my aspect ratio came out 16:9 & not 2:40.1 is this normal or did i do something wrong in Megui?
You need to make sure that in your MeGUI installation directory there is a folder named "Profiles", inside that folder create another named "Video", then place my XML profile file inside there. After you have done that you should be able to select it in MeGUI in the Video Encoding section of the interface.

With your aspect ratio it sounds like something went wrong with the resizing. If your resolution isn't 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080, you will need to use the AddBorders command in AVIsynth.

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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27. May 2008 @ 05:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all

can I say great thread

first post so pls don't kick a geek when hes down ;)

I am using anydvd to pull my BD to hard drive ,
then exctracting the main movie .m2ts file using tsmuxer 1.8.4(b)
then I have a single m2ts file with 1 video stream and 1 audio and one PGS stream to play on my network media tank .
problem is the NMT player doesn't see the embedded subtitiles .

I can pull the subs using tsmuxer to a .sup file .

question is can any body walk me through converting this sup file to a srt file .

I just can't seem to find the right tools or how to use them with BD sup files ??

any help greatly recieved thanks:D
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27. May 2008 @ 05:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fubarok:
Hi all

can I say great thread

first post so pls don't kick a geek when hes down ;)

I am using anydvd to pull my BD to hard drive ,
then exctracting the main movie .m2ts file using tsmuxer 1.8.4(b)
then I have a single m2ts file with 1 video stream and 1 audio and one PGS stream to play on my network media tank .
problem is the NMT player doesn't see the embedded subtitiles .

I can pull the subs using tsmuxer to a .sup file .

question is can any body walk me through converting this sup file to a srt file .

I just can't seem to find the right tools or how to use them with BD sup files ??

any help greatly recieved thanks:D
The reason is that a M2TS media file on it's own does not carry the information needed to display switchable subitles. It carries the actual subtitle stream but not the information needed to display it. This information is stored in seperate information files inside the Blu-ray disc directory.

So to get this to work, you are left with two options...

1) Create a Blu-ray disc.

2) Use software like SUPread to convert the subtitle to SubRip (srt) format and then use an alternate media container like Matroska (mkv).

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
fubarok
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27. May 2008 @ 05:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
man that was quick ....

many thanks for that .

I have had a look at subrip ,
it doest read the .sup file so do I need to point it at the m2ts file ?

as all info I have found on this seems to point to vobs ?
I assume m2ts files are call hard coded files ??

many thanks
:D
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27. May 2008 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fubarok:
man that was quick ....

many thanks for that .

I have had a look at subrip ,
it doest read the .sup file so do I need to point it at the m2ts file ?

as all info I have found on this seems to point to vobs ?
I assume m2ts files are call hard coded files ??

many thanks
:D
I mentioned using SUPread, not SubRip. I did say that srt is a SubRip format though. :-)

Try this: http://pel.hu/down/SUPread.exe

You will also need this: http://pel.hu/down/abc.png

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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27. May 2008 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol

That is the problem of working while posting , and also afterdawn putting links under any name it recognises ;)
odd that it doesn't see Supread??

I will give it a go tonight ,

is that you in the picture ?

thanks again
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27. May 2008 @ 08:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fubarok:
lol

That is the problem of working while posting , and also afterdawn putting links under any name it recognises ;)
odd that it doesn't see Supread??

I will give it a go tonight ,

is that you in the picture ?

thanks again
Which picture?

EDIT: Hahahaha!! I just realised what you mean. That link for the abc.png is meant to be an image file that SUPread uses as reference for converting the subtitle, not some random dude! It looks like someone is playing funny games with the link.

I just uploaded the REAL abc.png for you myself. Try this one instead: http://www.mediafire.com/?dc2tt2xjowm

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

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fubarok
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27. May 2008 @ 08:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you posted it in your reply ?
I was a bit confused :)
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27. May 2008 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fubarok:
you posted it in your reply ?
I was a bit confused :)
Yes, it's hilarious! Did you see that I edited my previous post with a link to the real abc.png?

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PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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27. May 2008 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am getting an 'Invalid Quickkey. This error has been forwarded to MediaFire's development team.'

any chance you could mail it to me at fubarok@gmail.com

cheers
Martin
Faza_EL
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27. May 2008 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just created a successful blu-ray disc of the golden compass YEY.
Thanks guys.

I have to say tho I can see the quality loss tho.
I have a 46" tv conected to PC via HDMI and PS3 via HDMI and I was looking at both and the original file from PC looks much sharper. You can see the real difference when you look at the edge of hair on people faces.

I will try another movie which is less then 7gb so I do not have to lower the bitrate. Maybe that was the problem.

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27. May 2008 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by NexGen76:
For some reason my PC doesn't read his profile as a XML Document his profile just shows up a file with a blank page.Do i need to rename the file or what do i do to get my PC to see his file?

Also om my AVCHD for some reason my aspect ratio came out 16:9 & not 2:40.1 is this normal or did i do something wrong in Megui?
You need to make sure that in your MeGUI installation directory there is a folder named "Profiles", inside that folder create another named "Video", then place my XML profile file inside there. After you have done that you should be able to select it in MeGUI in the Video Encoding section of the interface.

With your aspect ratio it sounds like something went wrong with the resizing. If your resolution isn't 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080, you will need to use the AddBorders command in AVIsynth.

Thxs....Ryu77 & Odin24 i got both issues fixed.Question:What are the advantages using DVD-9 compared to DVD-5 i know audio is one but what about PQ if you use lets say 6GB on PQ does that mean that its going to be better than someone using 3GB on PQ? Thxs.I ask because me using DVD-9 might be a overkill.I have one BD with Master audio & that file was 3.70GB.


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28. May 2008 @ 04:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ryu77:


I mentioned using SUPread, not SubRip. I did say that srt is a SubRip format though. :-)

Try this: http://pel.hu/down/SUPread.exe

You will also need this: http://pel.hu/down/abc.png


Hi Dude

can I ask why I need the abc.png ?
I managed to down loaded fro the http://pel.hu/down/abc.png as it seemed to be a list of text and numeric characters for a while .

Anyway not really know what the abc.png does or where to put it ,
I put it at the same level as Supread.exe loaded the sup file and save as a srt .
the in the network media tank put the srt with the same name and same level as the m2ts file and hey resto worked a treat ,
not only that figured out that forced subtitles has its own PGS stream in the m2ts file ,
so once you find that out by playing the dvd in nero 8 the subtitle list corresponds to the list in tsremuxer i.e PGS stream0 is the first in the list in nero PGS 1 is second etc etc.
just demux the correct stream SUPread it to srt and away you go

sorted

many thanks
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28. May 2008 @ 05:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NexGen76:
Thxs....Ryu77 & Odin24 i got both issues fixed.Question:What are the advantages using DVD-9 compared to DVD-5 i know audio is one but what about PQ if you use lets say 6GB on PQ does that mean that its going to be better than someone using 3GB on PQ? Thxs.I ask because me using DVD-9 might be a overkill.I have one BD with Master audio & that file was 3.70GB.

Using a higher capacity DVD would only allow for more room to encode the video at a higher bitrate (improving video quality). Unless you are referring to keeping the HD audio but that would take up too much space on a regular DVD disc. If you are working with an original Blu-ray disc, it would be best to extract the DTS core from the DTS HD track. I would suggest using EAC3to along with EAC3toGUI (or EAC3to and More GUI) to extract the core from the Master Audio track.

You say you have a Blu-ray disc with Master Audio and it was 3.70GB. Is that only the audio track you are referring to? If that is the case and you would like to allow for more room to be allocated to the video stream, then as I just mentioned you could extract the core from the Master Audio stream.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. May 2008 @ 05:37

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28. May 2008 @ 08:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fubarok:
Hi Dude

can I ask why I need the abc.png ?
I managed to down loaded fro the http://pel.hu/down/abc.png as it seemed to be a list of text and numeric characters for a while .

Anyway not really know what the abc.png does or where to put it ,
I put it at the same level as Supread.exe loaded the sup file and save as a srt .
the in the network media tank put the srt with the same name and same level as the m2ts file and hey resto worked a treat ,
not only that figured out that forced subtitles has its own PGS stream in the m2ts file ,
so once you find that out by playing the dvd in nero 8 the subtitle list corresponds to the list in tsremuxer i.e PGS stream0 is the first in the list in nero PGS 1 is second etc etc.
just demux the correct stream SUPread it to srt and away you go

sorted

many thanks
I'm happy to hear that you worked it all out.

You need the abc.png to convert srt subtitles to the PGS (Presentation Graphics Stream) format used on Blu-ray discs. This is needed if your source file contains a text based subtitle like Matroska (.mkv) does and you want to create a Blu-ray disc from it.

"Great minds discuss ideas... Average minds discuss events... Small minds discuss people"

PS3 compatible video creation thread... mkv2vob, tsMuxeR etc.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/621809
The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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28. May 2008 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Many Many thanks for your help there.

you saved me loads of time, trying way harder and more complex routes .

I must also read some of my post before I press the send button LOL :)

my touch typing is not very good ...as can be seen !!

thanks again.
Martin
 
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