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HD DVD cancels CES conference
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article published on 5 January, 2008
In response to yesterday's news that Warner Bros. had decided to go Blu-ray exclusive, the HD DVD Promotional Group has announced they have canceled their upcoming CES press conference.
The group, along with Microsoft and Toshiba had planned to tout the Q4 heavy sales of its players and discs. It seems that Warner did not give the group any advanced notice of its decision thus ruining ... [ read the full article ]
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5. January 2008 @ 17:28 |
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hhahahhha so the war and finger pointing contnues. in other news
the new format dubbed hddvvdvddvbd has just anounced by working to gether with blu-ray and hd-dvd these to companies have created a disc that can store 1 terrabyte. there expecting sells to slop for the years to come because the earths pop. is now 750,000
back to you lucifer,
thanks deformed baby eating demon thats good news to know
we have to go but thanks for listning to 666 channel news. you home for apocolyptic whether by the 6
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error5
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5. January 2008 @ 17:36 |
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They were blindsided - no doubt about it.
I think this was a wise move on their part since they will be asked about what their next step will be. They need time to formulate a response. Do they pack it all in or do they put up a fight? It takes more than a weekend to come up with a plan IMO.
OTOH they could have pushed through with the cocktail party, brought in a lot of booze, maybe hired a few strippers (they're in Vegas anyway), and got everyone plastered.
At least that's how some people deal with rejection.
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5. January 2008 @ 17:38 |
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was this the event that hd-dvd fanboys were talking about and said that something big was going to happened for hd-dvd.i remember hughjars said that hd-dvd would come out on top there.but obviously it was kind of unpredictable that warner did switch to blu-ray.but oh well.RIP Hd-DVD,you were great competition.hooray for blu-ray :D we now have 1 format (and imo its the best one that could've been).
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5. January 2008 @ 17:41 |
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Looks like they're takin' some of my advice... Nice to see that they're packin' up and leavin' town for a while to think some things over.
I do agree though with error5... Distraction is the key to forgetting things ever happened :P
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error5
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5. January 2008 @ 17:46 |
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vinny13: They're not leaving town. They'll still have their booth at the exhibit hall. Only their much-anticipated press event has been cancelled.
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5. January 2008 @ 17:46 |
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The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
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5. January 2008 @ 17:58 |
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
You are awake, this is not a bad dream. It is real. It's over.
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5. January 2008 @ 17:59 |
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Originally posted by error5:
vinny13: They're not leaving town. They'll still have their booth at the exhibit hall. Only their much-anticipated press event has been cancelled.
Because they're skippin' town :P
A booth is nothing compared to a 2 hour show, correct? Not too much goin' on there.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:11 |
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
You are awake, this is not a bad dream. It is real. It's over.
This is billions of dollars in investments...trust me, its nowhere NEAR over.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:13 |
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
CES is the highest level of any show to display your product if they cancel there News Conference what does that tell you ? The only thing they going to have is boths & a floor presents.Its over & they know it thank God they didn't try to drag it out.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:24 |
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
CES is the highest level of any show to display your product if they cancel there News Conference what does that tell you ? The only thing they going to have is boths & a floor presents.Its over & they know it thank God they didn't try to drag it out.
It only means they needed more than 2 days to put together an action plan for 2008, its nowhere near over...Microsoft, toshiba, paramount and universal are not going to sit around and let billions of investment dollars go to waste just because Warner moved to blu-ray...
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5. January 2008 @ 18:31 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
The war aint over! Do you really think toshiba with all te $$ they ave invested are just gonna roll over like that?
Trust me, you havent seen anything like the end of HD-DVD yet..
CES is the highest level of any show to display your product if they cancel there News Conference what does that tell you ? The only thing they going to have is boths & a floor presents.Its over & they know it thank God they didn't try to drag it out.
It only means they needed more than 2 days to put together an action plan for 2008, its nowhere near over...Microsoft, toshiba, paramount and universal are not going to sit around and let billions of investment dollars go to waste just because Warner moved to blu-ray...
So i guess the question is what can they do to change this? Try to change a studio stand which not going to happen.FOX & MGM is locked into BD because of BD+,Disney isn't going anywhere because they have been more vocal than Sony, Sony not moving because..we know that story.This is pretty much out of there hands.They could get smaller studios to move but that isn't going to make any kind of impact.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:41 |
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Well it looks like sony finally won something, it might have been a sucker punch but they won. I guess I'll stick to sd dvd until bd+ is destroyed or optical disc formats become obsolete.
All of you who side with blu-ray I have to ask you why? How is it any different from hd-dvd? Aside from higher price, region locking, and crazy drm. Is this just some kind of told you so hahaha we were right?
In the end no one wins, there is no more competition and sony has no reason to drop prices or change their anti-consumer stance. If I hear "make it blue" one more time I think my head is going to explode. Of course make it blue really means ?Everyone open wide here's some tasty drm for you to choke on? and then you turn blue.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:46 |
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HD DVD have been damaged, of course.
But you'd have to be pretty daft to imagine that having the 2nd & 3rd largest Hollywood studios exclusively tied to the format (and a host of smaller & independents) means you're 'dead', 'dying' or 'finished'.
Some people need to get a sense of perspective and see reality.
The fact is that Warner have publicly expressed a desire for the studios to unite around the one format.
As if.
The Hollywood studios are still significantly divided.
If you want Iron Man, Shrek, Transformers etc etc you can't have them if you're only Blu-ray.
For as long as that is true Blu-ray will not be taking DVD's place.
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5. January 2008 @ 18:59 |
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Originally posted by redux79:
All of you who side with blu-ray I have to ask you why? How is it any different from hd-dvd?
The truth is, I think, most of the "HAAHAHA BLU RULEZ!" posters are kids/people who got/bought a PS3 and then, realizing they had a blu-ray movie player, just jumped on board. The PS3/XBOX360 smack talk is their model, really.
Now there are many who are seriously behind BR, and have tech reasons for doing so, and I respect that. And I think those people are just as irritated with the kid stuff.
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5. January 2008 @ 19:02 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
HD DVD have been damaged, of course.
But you'd have to be pretty daft to imagine that having the 2nd & 3rd largest Hollywood studios exclusively tied to the format (and a host of smaller & independents) means you're 'dead', 'dying' or 'finished'.
Some people need to get a sense of perspective and see reality.
The fact is that Warner have publicly expressed a desire for the studios to unite around the one format.
As if.
The Hollywood studios are still significantly divided.
If you want Iron Man, Shrek, Transformers etc etc you can't have them if you're only Blu-ray.
For as long as that is true Blu-ray will not be taking DVD's place.
1 down, 2 to go.
I don't like any of those movies lmao
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5. January 2008 @ 19:05 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by redux79:
All of you who side with blu-ray I have to ask you why? How is it any different from hd-dvd?
The truth is, I think, most of the "HAAHAHA BLU RULEZ!" posters are kids/people who got/bought a PS3 and then, realizing they had a blu-ray movie player, just jumped on board. The PS3/XBOX360 smack talk is their model, really.
Now there are many who are seriously behind BR, and have tech reasons for doing so, and I respect that. And I think those people are just as irritated with the kid stuff.
Well it's kind of stupid not to lmao
I have a PS3. So now I'm gonna spend another 300 for a HD-DVD player? What's the point?
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5. January 2008 @ 19:16 |
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incentive?... that´s 400 million "incentives"...
it´s all about money... the highest bidder takes it all...
I guess that movie companies´s executives will sell their souls as soon as they find a way to put some DRM on them...
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5. January 2008 @ 19:19 |
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I've seen $1+ billion split between Fox & Warner mentioned in several places.
Here's the latest.....
Sony have just raised the price of their BDP S300 models from $299.99 to $399.99.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stor...ategoryId=27898
I see the latest Fox BD movie is BD+, 25gb & MPEG2.
Welcome to the mediocre world you wanted PS3 guys.
No complaining now, y'all wanted this remember?
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5. January 2008 @ 19:48 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
This is billions of dollars in investments...trust me, its nowhere NEAR over.
If so much was at stake then why didn't Toshiba match the alleged $500M that BluRay offered Warner?
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5. January 2008 @ 20:07 |
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Originally posted by Hughjars:
The Hollywood studios are still significantly divided.
If you want Iron Man, Shrek, Transformers etc etc you can't have them if you're only Blu-ray.
We haven't heard from Paramount or Universal but if you call 5 major studio's vs 2 spit so be it.Paramount going to let there 18 months exclsive deal run out.Its runs until jan09 just in time for next years CES.
Originally posted by hughjars:
Sony have just raised the price of their BDP S300 models from $299.99 to $399.99.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stor...d=27898
That price drop was for the Holidays only.BB & CC move the price back the day after Christmas.
Originally posted by hughjars:
I see the latest Fox BD movie is BD+, 25gb & MPEG2.
All FOX movies are going to be on BD+ because this is what FOX wanted in order to get a deal with BDA.
I hope this clear these so call issues your trying to makeup.
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5. January 2008 @ 20:19 |
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Pff everyone fighting over what disc we will use in 4-5 years.
Until then most movies will be streamed or downloaded anyway.
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5. January 2008 @ 21:07 |
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The FACTS: The movie industry has been seriously hurt by the gaming industry. Since Sony occupies both the gaming and movie industry, they've been trying to use their clout to persuade the gaming industry and the movie industry to move to their new hi-def format. Sony, as a company, hasn't been doing to well lately. They've sold off a lot of divisions within Sony in order to make ends meet. They've done a terrific marketing campaign to support Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray IS NOT better than HD DVD. They're equivilant. Blu-Ray and HD DVD have a 50 gb disc so space isn't an issue. Difference is, Toshiba & Microsoft are PC companies with no REAL ties to the movie industry. All they have to offer is $. Sony is offering $ and partnerships. The bottom line, Sony has more to offer the movie & gaming industry since they're involved in both. Warner, Disney, and the rest of the movie industry have no loyalty to Toshiba or Microsoft.
It's unfortunate because I really wanted HD DVD to prevail. I like the fact that they have a combo disc which means I can watch it on an HD DVD player and a regular DVD player whereas with Blu-Ray, I'm confined to only watching it on a Blu-Ray player.
I have both, a blu-ray plyaer and an HD DVD player. My Blu-Ray player is my PS3, of course. Just like everyone elses Blu-Ray player. The PS3 needs something 'cause the games they have now kinda suck in comparison to the Xbox360.
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5. January 2008 @ 21:08 |
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you know whats sad is all yall got your panties bunched in wads, and are wet between the legs over this stuff. Nobody has really considered the popularity of movies via internet, movies on scan discs, and other media formats. Wheres this war gonna be 5 years from now is the question on everybodies mind. But the real question maybe will a new format be intruduced before this war is over?? Just my 2 cents, may be stupid questions, thats why it's only 2 cents and not 3.
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5. January 2008 @ 21:16 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
No complaining now, y'all wanted this remember?
i dont know about anyone else, but i wanted you to talk like a regular person and say you all not y'all.lol.
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