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US Xbox 360 price cuts should be coming, says analyst
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article published on 15 March, 2008
Just days after it was announced that Microsoft was slashing Xbox 360 prices across the board in Europe, leading simExchange analyst Jesse Divnich has reported that price cuts in the US are the "only feasible and economic option" if the 360 wants to combat the Sony PlayStation 3's ongoing momentum in the console market.
"Whether there is an Xbox 360 shortage or not, it is clear that ... [ read the full article ]
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tripplite
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15. March 2008 @ 14:27 |
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its nice to see that the prices fall quickly! maybe this means the next gen will have good price cuts too? sony should make some more price cuts.....the psp is over priced!
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15. March 2008 @ 15:49 |
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Until Microsoft stop ignoring RROD with patches & fix this issue i don't see why a price cut on a defective console is a good deal.
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15. March 2008 @ 15:56 |
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Theyre just making price cuts because their losing out on the death of HD-DVD
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15. March 2008 @ 16:18 |
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MS will have to make some price cuts. With Blu-Ray winning the format war...the 360 has been put in a bind.
If you are a more casual gamer....$349 for a 20GB Premium 360 vs $399 for a 40GB PS3 that includes an optical audio out, Blu-Ray, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and an upgradable SATA II HDD?
It is not even close right now. It isn't like the old X-box vs the PS2.
A price cut for each 360 would help, but the systems are starting to develop their own niches. MS might have to come out with a new SKU to compete with the PS3, but if they do, that presents a whole other set of problems...plus a new SKU isn't really a price cut.
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15. March 2008 @ 16:23 |
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Wow this is about a price cut not the RROD,but of course as always the sony boys come out to bash.yes the the RROD is a problem but i think that M$ is handling the problem as best they can right now if it breaks they fix it totally free for three years.besides even with that being said the 360 still sells well.now call me what you like i dont care since i dont know you.and yes the PS3 do kick some major ass.
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15. March 2008 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by saltynuts:
Wow this is about a price cut not the RROD,but of course as always the sony boys come out to bash.yes the the RROD is a problem but i think that M$ is handling the problem as best they can right now if it breaks they fix it totally free for three years.besides even with that being said the 360 still sells well.now call me what you like i dont care since i dont know you.and yes the PS3 do kick some major ass.
First you don't know a thing about me & if you can read what i said was on topic & very true.Before i decide to buy a 360 which i was planning to i think that a console with a high failure rate is a major issue for anyone.Price point is good where its at but it don't rest to easy with me when this console been on the market for 3 year & theres no fix for RROD.So what happen after 3 years????
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15. March 2008 @ 17:31 |
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There's a 3 year XBox 360 warranty now isn't there
(unlike anyone else's products in this arena)?
I thought those old (suspiciously sourced & exaggerated?) RROD claims applied to the non-65nm CPU pre-falcon units?
IIRC it's all over now and finally consigned to history as they use both a 65nm CPU & GPU for cooler and more efficient running.
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15. March 2008 @ 17:36 |
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To be quite honest Microsoft needs to take more risk and lower the 360's premium price to $299, Core to $249 and the Elite to $399 (really $349 for Elite but that wont happen), it's been on the market well long enough to suffice such a price reduction. The reason Sony is gaining so much ground on Microsoft is because they're taking risk and trying several different things to see what GRABS the consumer. I'm a strong backer of Microsoft but lately they've been dropping the ball!
If Microsoft want's to stay in this race they will need to do some Sony moves and come out with better SKU's like Sony and OR offer "MORE", like what Sony is currently doing. Give me a break the PS3 is CLEARLY a BETTER value at an $399 price point>> Blu-Ray drive, 40GB HDD (which is easily swappable, blu-tooth technology AND wireless capabilities. To me that's an insane amount of stuff you get for a $399 price tag. As much as I hate Sony I must admit they're taking "RISK"..and I like it!! Microsoft, WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
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15. March 2008 @ 18:01 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
I thought those old (suspiciously sourced & exaggerated?) RROD claims applied to the non-65nm CPU pre-falcon units?
All 360 can get the RROD no model is safe & this is why i will hold my money until Microsoft get this issue fixed & not patched.
Surprise, surprise - Halo 3 Limited Edition 65nm box can get RRoD
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=21323
GDC 08: Red Ring of Death at GDC
Microsoft gets stung by its faulty hardware.
By 1UP Staff, 02/19/2008
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3166379
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15. March 2008 @ 18:26 |
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I don't think a handful of (unverified) reports proves anything other than no product is perfect.
There are reports about failures with them all, the truth is that it would be highly unusual if there weren't.
I don't recall anyone ever claiming that a 65nm XBox would be perfection itself.
Nevertheless, a 3 year guarantee is the kind of backing I'd call pretty substantive.
Pity the others can't or won't match it.
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15. March 2008 @ 18:49 |
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This one sentence sums it up for me:
"I can backup my games for the 360. You can't backup your games for the the PS3"
that reality finalizes the debate. END OF STORY!!!!
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15. March 2008 @ 19:41 |
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I dont think they can "fix" the rrod altogether but make it sound like they are. It seems like if they did want to fix it than they'd have to go back and change more than just a chip or whatever they did which might cost them lots of money...
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15. March 2008 @ 19:51 |
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hurry and drop the 360 price.
then maybe sony will have a real price drop for ps3.
i can buy an hdtv, waiting for that drop, and buy a ps3 after.
1080p gaming ftw
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15. March 2008 @ 20:07 |
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Microsoft has to face the fact that the 360 will no longer be bought seriously by gamers. Right now the Wii is in control, and until the wii players reach the age of 11 about, the PS3 will be bought. Why the PS3, why not the 360? The truth is, the 360's exclusives are rated M basically, so theyre not gonna be buying a 360. Once they have the PS3 they wont want a 360; and then PS3 is in control.
The wii will just sell used on ebay after this happens
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15. March 2008 @ 20:38 |
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The pathetic "shortages" excuse won't fly for much longer so they'd better do something to stop Sony in the US. Even with the EU price cuts I think Sony will continue to outsell the 360 over there. The price cuts will only slow them down a little. Price cuts in the US however, could put the 360 back above the PS3 in monthly sales until MGS4 comes out.
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15. March 2008 @ 21:47 |
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one things for sure this will slow down ps3 purchases quite a bit!
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15. March 2008 @ 23:11 |
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the RROD problem is way worse than you would think. the defect rate is 100%, they dont know what causes it STILL, its the failure rate that they say is 16%, i wager its way higher, the simple fact that they wont tell us the official failure rate means its higher than the 30% initial or the 16% now.
when your box breaks it totaly sucks, it takes 6 weeks to get your box back, they will only give you a one month live credit as a "sorry", and they will send you back a refurbed box that will break faster than a new one. in some countries they are required to give you a new box, but not in america. im sure you have all heard the stories about people on ther 12th box. i know several people PERSONALY that are near or past double digits.
if you buy a box, for the love of god make sure you get a NEW REPLACEMENT WARRENTY from wherever you buy it, and dont listen to a thing the sales man tells you, read the warrenty yourself and MAKE SURE you will get a new box propmtly if yours breaks.
ps. if you arent totaly addicted to halo like me then i say just get a ps3. blu ray baby.
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16. March 2008 @ 03:11 |
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Originally posted by algtz1:
This one sentence sums it up for me:
"I can backup my games for the 360. You can't backup your games for the the PS3"
that reality finalizes the debate. END OF STORY!!!!
In my mind that's the main reason to get a ps3 over a 360, no stupid little kids can go out and just download and play any game that most normal people worked their asses off to buy.
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16. March 2008 @ 06:20 |
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I hope the price drop is coming soon. I'm stuck with PS3 or xbox 360. Not sure which one to choose. 3 years of warranty means that the console break down fast then.
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Originally posted by xaznboitx:
I hope the price drop is coming soon. I'm stuck with PS3 or xbox 360. Not sure which one to choose. 3 years of warranty means that the console break down fast then.
I had the same choice last summer. I guess it comes down to how much gaming you do. When people ask me...I tell them the truth (or what I think it the truth).
As far as graphics and processing power goes....I don't think one "system" is better than the other.
However:
The X-Box is a better "pure gaming" sytstem right now. It has a bigger library of games and less "ported" games because it is (or was) easier to write code for the MS based 360. If you are a hardcore gamer only, go with the 360.
The PS3 is a better "next gen" system. It does not have the library of games that the 360 does, but it has a lot of other features that make it a FAR better "media" center....including PlayTV (in the UK). Once this hits the US(if Hollywood allows it)...WATCH OUT! You already know the other items that the PS3 comes with....so it just a matter of what fits your needs.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/22/sonys...plus-voip-on-p/
The two systems are going in different directions, so the choice is getting easier. Since I'm a casual gamer that only wanted to buy one system, I went with the system that was more next-gen.
*edit* Hughjars is going to love this one: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=33505
Yup, no copywrite protection. That is why there may be problems getting this to the US.
If this ever does hit the US, this is going to give MS a serious run on the XBL front. The fact that you can stream live TV, or programs on your PS3 HDD to your PSP via Wi-Fi is about as next get as you can get.
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16. March 2008 @ 11:13 |
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I think Sony is waiting for a price cut from Micro$oft so when it does come they'll make a price drop too and steal all the attention with advertising...
I think that could work.
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I don't really care anymore unless they drop the premiums to 200
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if its sub 200 for a premium it is :P
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16. March 2008 @ 14:24 |
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A true gamer will play games on all systems no matter what. The media center on all of these consoles is just an extra next gen bonus. If you are a true gamer then there really is no war between consoles because each console has its own game published exclusives. Which means that if you want to play exclusive games that bad...well as a consumer you will pretty much buy it. A lot of people complain about the RROD but don't even have a 360 and that says a whole lot about those people. I guess that's about as bad as no one complaining about all the old school consoles when the froze during a game like the NES. Yet as much heat that is produced with the considerable lack of case space for all of these consoles...well they will all have some kind of failure depending on the power produces. Had my 360 since the beginning and bought another just to have in another room. They still work flawless provided that I keep them cool and I limit my game play time so I don't have to deal with heating issues. Same way with PS3. Anyways ...in my opinion I figure anyone who plays all freakin day really doesn't have a life. As for the price cuts...these consoles are hitting the 2 and 3 year marks. I'd say its time to drop the prices all together.
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Originally posted by Sazaziel:
in my opinion I figure anyone who plays all freakin day really doesn't have a life.
You should meat my friend ^^
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Ahh!
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