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32 years of oil supply left
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F4HAD
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3. June 2008 @ 13:34 |
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Did you know that on estimate, the way the climate in the world is now, there is only an estimate of 32 years of oil left?
Its on BBC news, ill try and post a link soon, this is super scary
No buses
No cars
No trains
No trucks/lorries
All this means is, no workers, no transport
No food in Asda because the truck wont be able to take it there.
SCARY :(
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F4HAD
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3. June 2008 @ 13:40 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4681935.stm
It says that we use 77.5million barrels of oil a day in the world
Add up all the minimum figures, and divide it by about 80 million.
It gives you a number of about 12,000, divide it by 365, and you get 32years
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3. June 2008 @ 17:06 |
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that sucks. lucks on my side though. im driving in 3 months. so i got 32 years to drive. woo hoo!!!
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4. June 2008 @ 11:12 |
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If people would buy more economical vehicles and use more public transportation, that bigger wouldn't be as menacing. But from my research, transportation only allots for about 20% of total oil usage. Lots of people still heat their homes with it, use it for lubrication, we get plastic from it, etc etc.
Thankfully, we now have biodegradable plastic made from plant matter, and that will get cheaper as time goes on. To really safeguard ourselves, we need to start building homes heated by geothermal energy, and uses hydroelectric power (including wave power), solar power, and wind power on even small scales. If we reverted back to using more glass containers and recycling more effectively, combined with new methods of housing construction and upkeep, coupled with vehicles designed to run on bio-diesel and other bandage fuels until a truly viable alternative is produced, we really could be okay without many hiccups.
But that won't happen. People refuse to change until it's too late.
At least I will be prepared.
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4. June 2008 @ 12:11 |
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People are historically dumb, but we're taking steps to get smarter about the environment and conservation.
In 32 years, everything will probably be running on non-fossil fuel resources. Nuclear Fission, while it produces dangerous waste, is a good alternative in developed countires; solar, wind, tidal, and hydro-electric are good for the nations that can't be trusted with nuclear weapons.
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4. June 2008 @ 14:24 |
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Yes, but part of the problem is that we count only on one source of fuel; making that mistake again could be the end of us. We can't can't depend *just* on nuclear fission; we should use all the clean forms we can, as they all work differently under various conditions.
Nuclear fusion may not be that far off, I've been told by those who know. >.>
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4. June 2008 @ 15:17 |
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Commercial nuclear fusion (clean power) is most likely 50 years off. If sources say otherwise, please let me know.
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4. June 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Originally posted by F4HAD:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4681935.stm
It says that we use 77.5million barrels of oil a day in the world
Add up all the minimum figures, and divide it by about 80 million.
It gives you a number of about 12,000, divide it by 365, and you get 32years
your numbers don't compute.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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4. June 2008 @ 15:33 |
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Originally posted by iluvendo:
Commercial nuclear fusion (clean power) is most likely 50 years off. If sources say otherwise, please let me know.
I worked (and will return to doing so this fall) under and with grad students and professors doing research who claim that viable fusion could be much nearer than 50 years. I know this kind of kills my credibility, but I was promised to silence on any further details.
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4. June 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Originally posted by Auslander:
Originally posted by iluvendo:
Commercial nuclear fusion (clean power) is most likely 50 years off. If sources say otherwise, please let me know.
I worked (and will return to doing so this fall) under and with grad students and professors doing research who claim that viable fusion could be much nearer than 50 years. I know this kind of kills my credibility, but I was promised to silence on any further details.
So you got containment of the hot plasma under control ?
And Power imput <<< Power output feasible ?
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4. June 2008 @ 16:59 |
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I think secondary fuels should be looked into as well,but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.Anytime a company builds a prototype or has a patent that runs off a different source of fuel such as water,air etc...The oil companies such as Shell,Exxon etc...buy them so they can keep themselves in business.I think either way you look at it we are going to be in bad shape.I think nuclear fusion takes alot of energy to start the process,but maybe in the future there will be a better way.I think having a nuclear reactor can't be good if a disaster occurs,such as Chernoble.Look at the effects of an Atomic Bomb and this is the main problem,its the after effects that make it unstable.It wouldn't take much probably the size of a pill of plutonian to run a car for 30 years though,but I don't think I would call it safe.It would be cool if it was safe to use though,but I don't think there is a safe way at the moment right.
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4. June 2008 @ 17:33 |
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Originally posted by iluvendo:
So you got containment of the hot plasma under control ?
And Power imput <<< Power output feasible ?
Originally posted by Auslander:
I know this kind of kills my credibility, but I was promised to silence on any further details.
Sorry, man, I can't say much else. I'm not even part of the research, I just work around the people.
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4. June 2008 @ 18:14 |
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20 Years ago I saw you yesterday, Youre looking at the picture now.
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4. June 2008 @ 18:23 |
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That's part of the reason I say give every person on Earth a gun and two bullets.
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5. June 2008 @ 02:39 |
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this is going on my ZR2 Blazer soon !!
The HYDRO-4000 is a device designed to save fuel, improve engine performance and provide a "green" alternative to conventional fuels like gasoline, ethanol and diesel. Also known as a Hydrogen Cell, the HYDRO-4000 provides better mileage which, in turn, saves fuel while improving engine efficiency and lengthening engine life.
Anyone interested in saving the planet now, and saving money definitely needs a HYDRO-4000 for their vehicle. Operating on the electricity provided by your vehicle's alternator, the unit actually provides "Brown?s Gas," a combination of hydrogen, oxygen and water vapor that is inhaled by an engine's intake system.
Save money on fuel, get better gas mileage and help save our environment
by using "green fuel".
http://www.hydro4000.com/
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5. June 2008 @ 04:42 |
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Hey ZoSoIV it still uses gas although I did see on the news this guy that created a blow torch using nothing but water created a hydrogen powered car.The car could get 100 miles off of 4 ounces of water here is the link to the article about it http://mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8115/ .
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5. June 2008 @ 08:32 |
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look up 'project lucifer' on youtube. if its true we wont need a gun or any bullets.
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5. June 2008 @ 09:10 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
this is going on my ZR2 Blazer soon !!
The HYDRO-4000 is a device designed to save fuel, improve engine performance and provide a "green" alternative to conventional fuels like gasoline, ethanol and diesel. Also known as a Hydrogen Cell, the HYDRO-4000 provides better mileage which, in turn, saves fuel while improving engine efficiency and lengthening engine life.
Anyone interested in saving the planet now, and saving money definitely needs a HYDRO-4000 for their vehicle. Operating on the electricity provided by your vehicle's alternator, the unit actually provides "Brown?s Gas," a combination of hydrogen, oxygen and water vapor that is inhaled by an engine's intake system.
Save money on fuel, get better gas mileage and help save our environment
by using "green fuel".
http://www.hydro4000.com/
Price $1,199....that would buy me six months of gas in my guzzling Nissan Titan @ 15 MPG. Plus the cost of mods to my truck in order to fit it properly. A guy I work with bought the plans to build his own, the plans cost $50, but the price of part would have been well over $500 to build it himself and then he would have to modify his truck to fit it. I just don't know if it would be worth it.
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5. June 2008 @ 12:02 |
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I wish there were "reviews" instead of "testimonials."
Also, there are no security certificates on the bottom of the "Purchase" page. What's up with that?
I'm not convinced until I see this being sold on a reputable website.
Yes, I realize the hypocrisy of that statement after I came within a few inches of being scammed myself, but I'm much more paranoid about buying things over the Internet than I am about selling them.
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5. June 2008 @ 12:36 |
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Reminds me of the platinum injection kit that was being sold a few years ago, turned out to be nothing more than a scam.
Did nothing to improve your gas mileage, sure as hell lightened alot of wallets though.
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5. June 2008 @ 13:15 |
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a good freind of mine bought one to put on his truck i will let you know how it works out. and he actually talked to people that had one before he bought it
if it saves say 30 to 40% in gas in would pay for itselfs prety quickly LOCO
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5. June 2008 @ 13:23 |
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It will not work, and as a science major, I can give you more reasons, but the most basic is this:
Petrol and diesel engines operate based on the air:fuel ratio. The gas this is pumping in will be registered as air, not fuel. *If* it created more combustion energy, you would be producing more power, but still using the same amount of fuel. If you tuned the vehicle to lean out the fuel, you would seize the engine, as you wouldn't be able to go any more lean than you would without the "hydrogen."
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5. June 2008 @ 13:28 |
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Also the emission would be water....so you'll need stainless steel or aluminum exhaust and valves, headers etc. so they won't rust. It might work, I really don't know....so I say nay, but go for it if it feels good. :)
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5. June 2008 @ 13:32 |
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*If* it is actually producing hydrogen, it could produce power allowing you to use less throttle for given responses, but you still have to meet the AFR required to keep the vehicle running....I'd rather do water or meth injection and up my timing, kind of like increasing compression, to get more power and better mileage from the same fuel.
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5. June 2008 @ 16:32 |
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It is fairly appropraite to say that us humans, are not clever enough, or do not possess basic human morals to make the world a better place for our grandsons and grandaughters. It is because we neglect the world so much that eventually, humans will eat the world inside out, its a basic fact, WE ARE DESTRYOING THE WORLD, and something needs to be done about it, something far greater than turning to biodegradeable plastic bags.
Birmingham university have developed the worlds first hydrogen powered bike, thats a start, now all they need to do is upscale it to a car, but can it be done?
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