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DVDshrink vs. DVD Rebuilder--quality parameter
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hamilton9
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1. October 2008 @ 12:31 |
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Regarding ONLY quality parameter,
who is better DVDshrink or DVD Rebuilder?
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1. October 2008 @ 12:43 |
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Hands down Dvd Rebuilder. A little more time consuming, but the quality is top notch.
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1. October 2008 @ 14:56 |
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Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Hands down Dvd Rebuilder. A little more time consuming, but the quality is top notch.
Definitely RB is the way to go.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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1. October 2008 @ 23:41 |
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Originally posted by iluvendo:
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Hands down Dvd Rebuilder. A little more time consuming, but the quality is top notch.
Definitely RB is the way to go.
Might as well throw in my two cents and agree with both these guys. The difference between the two can be made on their program definitions. DVD Rebuilder is an encoder whereas DVD Shrink is a transcoder. This excerpt is taken form the definition of transcoding.
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Compressed Domain Transcoding
Compressed Domain Transcoding is used by many popular DVD backup programs. It's much simpler than encoding. Rather than recalculate all the information required by an encoder, a compressed domain transcoder simply removes information from the original video stream. This results in a loss of detail, and is generally considered inferior to using an encoder to compress video. However, the relatively high speed, low cost, and ease of use associated with compressed domain transcoders like DVD Shrink and CloneDVD has made them popular.
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Sebright
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2. October 2008 @ 00:03 |
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I've been bumping along happily with DVDShrink, but the comments on this thread made me stop and think.
I wonder which freeware encoder you'd recommend to use for a movie rebuild?
Thanks.
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2. October 2008 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by Sebright:
I've been bumping along happily with DVDShrink, but the comments on this thread made me stop and think.
I wonder which freeware encoder you'd recommend to use for a movie rebuild?
Thanks.
If you are happy with the results you have had with DVD Shrink, then why change? Quality is in the eye of the beholder, and is very dependent upon factors such as tv size and type as well as simply your viewing preferences. I use Shrink probably 70-80 percent of the time and only use rebuilder when my compression is greater than 30%.
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2. October 2008 @ 23:12 |
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I'm with brother ferguj. Also I (and brother ferguj) believe you can't have too many tools (I know I sound like Tim, the tool man, Taylor) So play with rebuilder, and see what you fancy.
"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
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2. October 2008 @ 23:23 |
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Amen, the more the merrier.
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Vulcan94
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3. October 2008 @ 00:01 |
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The first thing that I did when I began to learn how to back up my DVDs (other that lurk here and read up on it first) was to start with DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. Next came DVDFAB, AnyDVD, FixVTS, and Vobblanker. Now, I'm using the free version of DVD Rebuilder exclusively. I just use DVD Rebuilders batch processing ability. I just rip to my HD, run it thru FixVTS and set up the batch and then go to bed. The next day I burn them to disk using Imgburn. The quality of my backups are much better using DVD Rebuilder that when I use DVD Shrink. As I usually make backups of the entire disk the amount of compression I need is usually quite high. I've already bought AnyDVD, I guess I need to get off my butt and buy DVD Rebuilder Pro as well.
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3. October 2008 @ 04:58 |
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Originally posted by Vulcan94:
I guess I need to get off my butt and buy DVD Rebuilder Pro as well.
a very wise investment, my program of choice is Rebuilder Pro with HC Encoder. For movies i only do movie only, episodic discs i do exactly as-is, all turn out infinitely better than DVD Shrink or other programs can do.
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3. October 2008 @ 05:22 |
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I would just like to add that it also does an excellent job on converting to AVI or IPOD.
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Peshtigo
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3. October 2008 @ 18:49 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by Vulcan94:
I guess I need to get off my butt and buy DVD Rebuilder Pro as well.
a very wise investment, my program of choice is Rebuilder Pro with HC Encoder. For movies i only do movie only, episodic discs i do exactly as-is, all turn out infinitely better than DVD Shrink or other programs can do.
What a coincidence. I just bought DVD Rebuilder Pro also, so last night I performed a little "test". I ripped my purchased disc Iron Man to my harddrive with DVDFab and then proceeded to make two separate DVD-5 backups. One with DVD Rebuilder Pro and one with DVD Shrink with the settings the same (at least as close as I could get with Shrink). DVD Rebuilder Pro took 167 minutes, Shrink took 65 minutes (times all relative per same machine). I then burned each .ISO file to a sepaparate Verbatim 16x DVD+R disc with ImgBurn at 6x speed. The backup made with DVD Rebuilder Pro was impossible to distinguish from the original in either video or audio quality. However the backup made with Shrink was pretty darn good also. So good in fact that I'm not sure that the average person could tell the difference unless they looked at each one right after the other. Also so good that I will also stick with DVD Shrink until I come across a backup that requires using the "bigger gun".
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3. October 2008 @ 19:01 |
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Each to their own :)
Long ago i used DVD Shrink only, then i was introduced to Rebuilder, i think it was last year or maybe the year before; from then on i only used Shrink for anything over 90% compression (so Shrink was used quite often). However these days i only ever use Shrink if it's 98% or so (i know, a made up figure, but you get the gist; very rare to find films of such low compression, well for the films i do anyways) so i pretty much use just use Rebuilder for everything now. My main tv is a 32" and yes, the results from Rebuilder are absolutely outstanding.
For me Rebuilder takes about 40 mins (HC encoder, movie only mode), on a Quad Core Q6600, full discs obviously take a bit longer. I don't know what percentage Video compression is needed for Iron Man movie only (it's not out here in UK for a few weeks) but as i say i'll be using Rebuilder.
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3. October 2008 @ 19:04 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Each to their own :)
Long ago i used DVD Shrink only, then i was introduced to Rebuilder, i think it was year or maybe the year before; from then on i only used Shrink for anything over 90% compression (so Shrink was used quite often. However these days i only ever use Shrink if it's 98% or so (very rare, well for the films i do anyways) so i pretty much use just use Rebuilder for everything now. My main tv is a 32" and yes, the results from Rebuilder are absolutely outstanding.
I have to agree. I use Rebuilder for all movies that require compression.
99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.
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Peshtigo
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3. October 2008 @ 19:57 |
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Originally posted by dialysis1:
Originally posted by creaky:
Each to their own :)
Long ago i used DVD Shrink only, then i was introduced to Rebuilder, i think it was year or maybe the year before; from then on i only used Shrink for anything over 90% compression (so Shrink was used quite often. However these days i only ever use Shrink if it's 98% or so (very rare, well for the films i do anyways) so i pretty much use just use Rebuilder for everything now. My main tv is a 32" and yes, the results from Rebuilder are absolutely outstanding.
I have to agree. I use Rebuilder for all movies that require compression.
The more I thought about it I came to the conclusion that I'm only using Rebuilder Pro also. Correct me if I'm wrong because I've only had the chance to use it once (new). Using the "one click" setting in the Pro version isn't there an option to automatically burn using ImgBurn?
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3. October 2008 @ 19:59 |
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Originally posted by Peshtigo:
Using the "one click" setting in the Pro version isn't there an option to automatically burn using ImgBurn?
Couldn't tell you, i'm an encode and burn manually (with whichever program) kind of guy. The only thing i automate is batch encoding (in ConvertXtoDVD, in fact i haven't even tried out batch encoding with Rebuilder yet).
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Peshtigo
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3. October 2008 @ 20:13 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by Peshtigo:
Using the "one click" setting in the Pro version isn't there an option to automatically burn using ImgBurn?
Couldn't tell you, i'm an encode and burn manually (with whichever program) kind of guy. The only thing i automate is batch encoding (in ConvertXtoDVD, in fact i haven't even tried out batch encoding with Rebuilder yet).
I'm also an encode/burn manually guy. But seeing as I have a new toy I think I'll give the "one click" a try just for the heck of it. Set it, go to bed, and wake up with a surprise. Not all surprises are bad in the morning, are they?
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3. October 2008 @ 20:19 |
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Indeed.
I just checked and there is an auto ImgBurn option, it's entitled " ImgBurn Directly to Disc (No ISO)"
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Peshtigo
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3. October 2008 @ 20:22 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Indeed.
I just checked and there is an auto ImgBurn option, it's entitled " ImgBurn Directly to Disc (No ISO)"
That's the one.
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3. October 2008 @ 20:25 |
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Not all surprises are bad in the morning, are they?
Ever had a cat mistake your slipper for the litter box?
Honestly, i'm glad i've been checking up here, since i'm fairly new to RB but have been thrilled with the results. I did not know it could be set to burn directly with Imgburn. That is a function i may try on my next venture.
Cheers!
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3. October 2008 @ 20:30 |
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I tend to get very set in my ways with programs, i don't often (ok, very rarely!) go looking for or experiment with extra options and whatnot if things work as they should, so it tends to be only if something isn't working right that i go mooching :)
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Peshtigo
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3. October 2008 @ 20:34 |
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Originally posted by 7thsinger:
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Not all surprises are bad in the morning, are they?
Ever had a cat mistake your slipper for the litter box?
Honestly, i'm glad i've been checking up here, since i'm fairly new to RB but have been thrilled with the results. I did not know it could be set to burn directly with Imgburn. That is a function i may try on my next venture.
Cheers!
Or worse, mistake your cat for your slipper?
I don't know if the ImgBurn option is only available in the Pro version.
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3. October 2008 @ 20:34 |
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I'm very much the same way Creaky. In fact i think you and i finally purchased DvdFab Platinum around the same time, even though we spent quite a long time with Hd Decrypter. I'm trying to broaden my horizons a little bit. I've been thrilled thus far with the results i get from RB. Not enough to drop Shrink just yet, but i certainly am using it more often now.
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3. October 2008 @ 22:24 |
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Originally posted by Peshtigo:
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
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Not all surprises are bad in the morning, are they?
Ever had a cat mistake your slipper for the litter box?
Honestly, i'm glad i've been checking up here, since i'm fairly new to RB but have been thrilled with the results. I did not know it could be set to burn directly with Imgburn. That is a function i may try on my next venture.
Cheers!
Or worse, mistake your cat for your slipper?
I don't know if the ImgBurn option is only available in the Pro version.
In the free version it reads "Write to Blank Disk (with Imgburn)"
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Vulcan94
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3. October 2008 @ 23:05 |
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When I'm only going to backup one disk I've used the autoburn feature. It works just fine, go to bed and have my backup ready for me the next morning.
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