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16. August 2008 @ 19:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Woodstock Festival 1969 is a perfect example of what you're talking about. 450,000 people ,4 days of music and no violence at all, there were a few drugs floating around though lol

Yes Woodstock was quite an event, but even that is not an example of what true hippies were, and perhaps are. Woodstock was more a reflection of their ideals infused into a generation of young people faced with an unwanted and unpopular, and pointless war. They were looking for a reason for their elders too, and why they were sacrificing them for political expediency without a clear cause.

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That was the example I was going to use, with a slightly different spin. There was lots of pot, as well as other drugs, i.e. hashish, LSD, and Mescaline. If you didn't bring your own, there were plenty of dealers set up and selling openly. Things were relatively peaceful for a crowd that large, with only a few flaring tempers. With many of the people high, they weren't in a fighting mood. LOL People were being natural in other ways as well, urinating and defecating in public, and social nudity was the norm. The place wasn't smelling very good toward the end of day 2, the natural fragrance of the huge crowd. With the rain, mud, and other annoyances, it was nice the neighboring farmers had some ponds. They didn't want the trespassers or approve of the nudity, but for the campers at Woodstock skinny dipping was the way to clean up and cool off. People drove in from all over the country, so there goes the deal of no vehicles. Think major traffic jam. The pot lasted, so who cared. Back then an ounce of weed was about $10 and a pound could be picked up for about $100. Prices were higher at Woodstock due to commercialism. They may have been counter culture, but they still wanted to make a buck. LOL Well, in reflection (according to Sophocles) maybe there weren't any hippies at Woodstock. ;) It was one hell of a party. LOL I guess you could say they weren't real hippies, but they would have disagreed with you.

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Perhaps you may want to reevaluate your opinion on hippies. I knew some of the true members of the group. There was 2 things they were constantly indulging in (drugs and sex)
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Baloney!! Having actually lived among genuine hippies and once saw my self as one, baloney again. Real hippies were vegetarians who didn't believe in polluting their bodies with any kind of chemical substances, including food additives. They practiced yoga for physical exercise along with meditation, and the notion of hurting other living things was unthinkable. They didn't eat meat and grew their own organic vegetables. Pot was too many of them a natural substance, but even that had its issues because it required inhaling smoke or cooking it into food. So genuine hippies ate it, but not a one of them would get behind an automobile, touch an alcohol beverage, or do anything that could have a negative impact on others.


Would you like mustard or mayo with your baloney? LOL Sounds like you were at a Hindu retreat instead of a hippy commune. LOL


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...Isn't it "bologna"?


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What's really happening is aliens/ufo's are realizing that we are beginning to advance in technology and with that comes destruction. Hence, after the Atom bomb was tested and Hiroshima, there were numerous ufo sightings.

Every year sightings become more and more frequent along with people claiming to be abducted and having sperm and eggs taken from them. Of course some are lying, but not everyone. Some even claimed to have some type of fragment implanted into them and when scientist take a look, it's some type of ultra rare metal that comes from meteorites, and on top of that, scientists say there are no scars to show that the implant was put there. Aliens are taking offspring from the people on earth and populating other planets since they know the end to this world is near.

Governments have/are building underground facilities to house vip's such as the brightest scientists, doctors etc. So when all of this goes down, the majority of people on the surface will be dead. The majority of the survivors will die due to starvation. After all is over, the ones underground will resurface and start over, but not with technology, since they already have it, along with the brightest scientists.

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H. G. Wells, "The Time Machine".

@Auslander
It's spelled both ways, bologna or baloney.


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Would you like mustard or mayo with your baloney? LOL Sounds like you were at a Hindu retreat instead of a hippy commune. LOL
A true hippie commune isn't far from being a Hindu retreat. LOL

One of my best buddies and I while in Toronto decided to try Kundalini yoga. I tried it for a while and then moved on but he continued with it and ultimately ended up heading and forming an Ashram. The truth is that a lot of the early hippies disappeared to create communal farms and others really did go Hindu.

Mustard please.:D


The expression baloney is usually spelled the way that I spelled it but Pacman is right, there are two spellings for it.

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I'm with Auslander

Bologna for sandwich
Baloney for nonsense

but both are acceptable, tho I've never seen the "ney" version at a deli. Another word corrupted to an easier spelling. On topic, if we all eat bologna everyday the population might die before the Earth does. Just more baloney for this fun thread.

Oscar Mayer would cringe at the "ney" variety, yet they corrupted "craft" to call their company, Kraft.


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LOL You guys are right. There's a lot of baloney here and the balogna is in the fridge.

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Looks like you have a more strict definition of hippie. Society loosely labels the counterculture youth of the 60s and 70s as hippies. Your requirements of being a vegetarian, growing organic foods, avoiding motorized vehicles, doing yoga, eating pot, and living in a commune are not the norm. I'm thinking Haight-Ashbury which defies most of your requirements and was among the largest gathering of hippies, if not the largest. City dwellers, drugs, smoking pot, free love, Volkswagen vans, good music, ...


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Jefferson Airplane was the epitome of the hippie movement. man i miss thoses times.

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Looks like you have a more strict definition of hippie. Society loosely labels the counterculture youth of the 60s and 70s as hippies. Your requirements of being a vegetarian, growing organic foods, avoiding motorized vehicles, doing yoga, eating pot, and living in a commune are not the norm. I'm thinking Haight-Ashbury which defies most of your requirements and was among the largest gathering of hippies, if not the largest. City dwellers, drugs, smoking pot, free love, Volkswagen vans, good music, ...
Redefining things seems to be the norm in today's society. Besides I'm not saying that Hippies didn't get high, just not as it's been repainted over the years. A popular hippie quote used to be, if you can't eat it, don't smoke it.


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Society loosely labels the counterculture youth of the 60s and 70s as hippies

This is quite true but most of the members of the counter culture were fairly careful in their use of drugs as well. The did get high on LSD as well as smoke but not on the hard stuff such as methedrine, barbiturates, or heroin. There were those that tread among them who seemed to have no restrictions but all and all the time made and methods of getting high made more sense then than they do today.

If you ask most people who remember VHS what the letters stood for they would say Video Home System, but ask an old gadget geek and they will tell you that it originally stood for Vertical Helical Scan. I suspect that revisionist history is more common and much easier to plate than the truth.


BTW, have you every had some good pot/hash brownies or cookies, and being vegetarians didn't didn't reduce their love of mushrooms and good music.:P

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BTW, have you every had some good pot/hash brownies or cookies, and being vegetarians didn't didn't reduce their love of mushrooms and good music.:P
About a week ago,me and a friend made some brownies for his birthday. I provided the bud, and he provided them mix. We used A quater of some nice Strawberry Kush. Wow, what an experience. One caution for anyone planning to make hash brownies, the effect takes longer to come on than regular weed does. Also, you peek a lot higher than you normally would. So eat a brownie or two, chill for an hour, then get ready for one hell of an experience.

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That was the example I was going to use, with a slightly different spin. There was lots of pot, as well as other drugs, i.e. hashish, LSD, and Mescaline. If you didn't bring your own, there were plenty of dealers set up and selling openly. Things were relatively peaceful for a crowd that large, with only a few flaring tempers. With many of the people high, they weren't in a fighting mood. LOL People were being natural in other ways as well, urinating and defecating in public, and social nudity was the norm. The place wasn't smelling very good toward the end of day 2, the natural fragrance of the huge crowd. With the rain, mud, and other annoyances, it was nice the neighboring farmers had some ponds. They didn't want the trespassers or approve of the nudity, but for the campers at Woodstock skinny dipping was the way to clean up and cool off. People drove in from all over the country, so there goes the deal of no vehicles. Think major traffic jam. The pot lasted, so who cared. Back then an ounce of weed was about $10 and a pound could be picked up for about $100. Prices were higher at Woodstock due to commercialism. They may have been counter culture, but they still wanted to make a buck. LOL Well, in reflection (according to Sophocles) maybe there weren't any hippies at Woodstock. ;) It was one hell of a party. LOL I guess you could say they weren't real hippies, but they would have disagreed with you.
From the stories I have heard from my parents (my dad only went to Hash Bash in Ann Arbor, but my mother to Woodstock as a teenager), things were quite peaceful from what they told me.
However, look at the Woodstock of '99. Terrible. Times have changed.
For anyone who doesn't know what happened, read up, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_1999
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
Redefining things seems to be the norm in today's society. Besides I'm not saying that Hippies didn't get high, just not as it's been repainted over the years. A popular hippie quote used to be, if you can't eat it, don't smoke it.
Hippies then and hippies now, with pretty much the same general definition by society. I fear you may still have your ashrams and communes mixed up. Sounds like you're a purist. No problem, but as I mentioned, there were a lot hippies that weren't purists. As for repainting over the years, that's happened. Only problem is that the times were made to sound better than they were. In ways they were good, the police weren't as fired up about party drugs and trying to put everyone in jail for having fun. Not as many people were out to hurt others during the counterculture revolution. When things got political was when the cops and national guard started bashing heads. Kent State?

It's been a while since I had a Mary Jane brownie. ;) As a teen I smoked some weed and a bit of hash and dropped some mesc. Cactus anyone? LOL As in peyote cactus nodules = mesc. It was all light stuff that didn't mess with the genes. I was warned off the hard drugs. A friend's brother ODed on heroin. The memory of his death was another reason I didn't experiment with heavy drugs.

Some of those mushrooms were real mind benders. LOL Speaking of bending minds, LSD caused psychoses and schizophrenia in some users, and most of us have heard of bad trips. Flashbacks were another problem. I guess the reason some of those true hippies avoided vehicles was because LSD flashbacks while driving is deadly.

VHS = Vertical Helical Scan
I remember the VHS - Betamax shootout.


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No problem, but as I mentioned, there were a lot hippies that weren't purists. As for repainting over the years, that's happened.

A lot of people from the time who were classified as hippies were actually part of a new subculture called Yippies.

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I must say this hippie madness has gone too far I've always seen hippies as people who do what they feel is the right thing to do by them and the planet (that's how I am) this whole discussion about hippies all being the same and acting the same is silly, hippies aren't the same it goes against everything hippies stand for, DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE MAN OR ANYONE!!!! remember?
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I met a few hippies earlier on in the year, i don't know if you guys know much about the Hill of Tara, in Ireland, but basically it's an ancient site where the High Kings of Ireland used to live and they're planning on running a motorway really close to it. They've been bulldozing all these archaelogical discoveries and have never properly excavated the valley.

Anyway these hippies (or new age travellers some people call them now) have moved in and have been trying to stop the road for the last couple of years.

Some of them are irish, some from different parts of the world. Some would be in their 50's, most 20's or 30's. I admire what they're doing, but i can't see myself living in a tent in the rain.
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Try to get one of those cheapies for a funeral. I don't think so. Never. LMAO


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Hope they didn't cost as much as the toilet seats and hammers. LOL If they did it would be cheaper to bury the dead in copper vaults. I guess they'd be handy for 12/22, if there's anyone left to use them.


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We should all give a big thanks to our corrupt governments of the world. 99.99999% of the people don't know one tenth of 1% of what the real agenda is, but here's everyones chance to take their head out of the sand.

Dark Power are trough his puppets the Illuminati, Freemason, Masonic and other Heretical grups trying to deny the spiritual world for the people trough events like television, disasters and wars.

People are being manipulative brainwashed by the Mainstream-Television, so that they might forget about the eternal life and the afterlife. Which will have serious consequences when they die.

NOW IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP!

One things for certain, When we die. We do not know what comes next. So not a bad thing to at least see some possibility of what could be when we get there. And the question of what Ghosts are and why they are here.

We go through what the Ether is and how we have lost our connection, through an Evil that has a hold over the world. And the destruction of the earth that is happening now.
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I don't think this thread was meant for attacking groups and it strictly states no politics.

Originally posted by LukeWiggy:
99.99999% of the people don't know one tenth of 1% of what the real agenda is, but here's everyones chance to take their head out of the sand.
... Dark Power are trough his puppets the Illuminati, Freemason, Masonic and other Heretical grups trying to deny the spiritual world for the people trough events like television, disasters and wars.
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Appears you're one of the larger group. Freemasons are members of the Masonic organization, which not only comprises the Masonic lodge, but Shriners who are high degree Masons. The Masonic organization with it's different groups do a lot of philanthropic work. Masons sponsor a lot of medical charities and the Shriners are famous for the Children's hospitals (no religious or racial descrimination is involved in that care). They have nothing to do with mainstream religion. You can be a Baptist, Episcopalian, Catholic, Holiness, or whatever and still belong. There are Masonic ceremonies that come from the biblical era, but they're not religious in the sense that people practice religion. So get it right when you try to malign a group. Make sure they fit in your rantings and know something about the group.

"puppets the Illuminati", them I'm not familiar with. LOL


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pacman, he can't as i just sent him to the darkside.
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no politics?if anything is going to end the world its the politicians.by the way,hippies were nothing more than nonconformists at the time.i was there.cheers.
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Tired as I am, I wouldn't know the apocalypse if it came up and raped me. >.<

School FTL.


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Originally posted by Auslander:
Tired as I am, I wouldn't know the apocalypse if it came up and raped me. >.<

School FTL.

Wait til you get a job and a family.


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LOL, have the job around school...having less free time than I did with my 60 hour weeks over the summer. At this rate, I won't be breeding.


 
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