|
Will Shrink Convert a British PAL DVD?
|
|
|
cannew
Junior Member
|
25. April 2004 @ 18:16 |
Link to this message
|
|
I want to buy a British DVD and I don't know if it will play in my player. So will Shrink be ablle to read the dvd and convert it to our region?
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
|
daba
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
26. April 2004 @ 02:43 |
Link to this message
|
Hi Cannew,
No, DVD Shrink cannot convert from PAL to NTSC (or vice versa). Actually I'm not aware of any one-click DVD-backup tool that can perform such a conversion.
Maybe DVD Rebuilder, but it's still in beta:
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdrb.htm
Cheers,
Daba
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. April 2004 @ 02:43
|
|
cannew
Junior Member
|
26. April 2004 @ 05:11 |
Link to this message
|
Thanks Daba, I'll keep searching but it does not appear to be any easy way. If my computer could read PAL, maybe I could play it and send the video and audio directly to my dvd recorder.
|
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
26. April 2004 @ 12:19 |
Link to this message
|
If you were to use DVD Region free,Would not DVD Shrink work on The DVD?This is a question not an Answer.Or what about DVD Decrypter W/DVD RegionFree first?Then Shrink
|
Moderator
|
26. April 2004 @ 12:24 |
Link to this message
|
It isn't just a matter of different region codes. NTSC and PAL are different formats. Check out the glossary here - it'll explain :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33 |
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
26. April 2004 @ 12:55 |
Link to this message
|
|
Sorry bout that was'nt thinkin.To much whacky bakky today
|
|
siber
Member
|
26. April 2004 @ 14:10 |
Link to this message
|
Cannew, I have made multiple copies of Region2 DVD's in PAL. You can reset your DVD burner to Region2( as you know, you can only reset 5 times) and you will have no problem watching your PAL DVD on your computer. You can also get DVDIdle PRO or DVD RegionFree which will allow you to watch all Region DVD's without limitation. I have used Shrink to copy French and British DVD's and the copies where playable on my Region1(US) DVD player and NTSC TV.
|
Senior Member
|
26. April 2004 @ 14:27 |
Link to this message
|
i was under the impression that once you have backed a movie up with DVD Shrink that it was region free and so would play in any region ?
i could be wrong ?
|
|
cannew
Junior Member
|
26. April 2004 @ 19:01 |
Link to this message
|
Siber:
Quote: "I have used Shrink to copy French and British DVD's and the copies where playable on my Region1(US) DVD player and NTSC TV."
Did you have to do anything before you used Shrink to copy the British dvd's?
|
|
siber
Member
|
26. April 2004 @ 20:09 |
Link to this message
|
I am Belgian living in North Carolina. I order European DVD's over the Net by mail. I have AnyDVD and DVD RegionFree on my computer. I load the DVD in my DVD burner and use Shrink to rip the movie to my HD. Then I use Nero/CloneDVD/RecordNow(either one of these works fine) to burn the movie to DVD. Obviously the DVD is RegionFree but it is also playable in every stand-alone DVD player I have used to show the movie on a NTSC TV. It seems that most/?all DVD players are set up to handle both PAL and NTSC signals . To answer the question, no, I never do anything before using Shrink. In addition to that I have one a single occasion ripped a region1 movie(NTSC) using the same method and sent the copy to a family member in Belgium. They had no difficulties watching the movie on a PAL television.
|
|
cannew
Junior Member
|
27. April 2004 @ 05:49 |
Link to this message
|
|
Interesting. I wonder if you need DVD RegionFree in order for Shrink to read the British DVD? Does RegionFree work in background?
|
|
siber
Member
|
27. April 2004 @ 08:32 |
Link to this message
|
|
RegionFree just allows you to not have to reset your DVDplayer to region2. I don't see how it could do anything to the signal itself.
|
|
brian100
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
27. April 2004 @ 11:36 |
Link to this message
|
Your PAL british DVD will play on your pc with no problems, but obviously not (very well, if at all) on your standalone player with your current TV. The region code is totally immaterial on your pc, after it's been ripped.
I'm not an expert, by any stretch of the imagination, on TMPGEnc but I am sure you can (convert) re-encode the movie from PAL to NTSC. I am not sure how great the ouput quality is but it may be worth some further research on your part. Dont ask me how! ive never used the app but ive read about it on this and other forums. Theres apparently a 30 day trial available so why not give it a try.
I also had a quick look on google and managed to find an ap called "DVanced PAL/NTSC Converter". Again I have no experience of it but you cna read a review of it here :-
http://www.computervideo.net/mar03-4.html
Looking for my old AD This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. April 2004 @ 11:48
|
Moderator
|
27. April 2004 @ 11:54 |
Link to this message
|
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. April 2004 @ 11:55
|
|
siber
Member
|
27. April 2004 @ 12:56 |
Link to this message
|
Many DVD players in the US will play PAL and NTSC on a NTSC television. As I noted earlier, my European DVD's - once the region code stripped + ripped by shrink + burned on DVD+R play perfectly on my stand-alone JVC player. You can presently buy a Cyberhome DVD player at BestBuy or Sam's for $35-40 that actually states in its specs that it plays PAL/NTSC. As I said earlier, many/most DVD players do that anyway...I have a collection of 100-125 European DVD's and I have had 100% success with the above mentioned process. If all you want to do is watch Region2 DVD's on a NTSC television, there is no need to convert from PAL to NTSC...
|
Moderator
|
27. April 2004 @ 14:28 |
Link to this message
|
The problem lies with some T.V. sets that can't handle PAL :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
|
|
siber
Member
|
27. April 2004 @ 19:45 |
Link to this message
|
Nephilim, you are going to get me all confused...I play my PAL DVD's on any NTSC television and my family plays my NTSC DVD's on their PAL televisions in Europe as long as the Region Code has been removed by eg. Shrink. I can only deduct that there are many DVD players that read the PAL signal but can somehow spit it out as a NTSC signal and vice-versa. It must somehow be simpler to manufacture the DVD players able to play PAL as well as NTSC and then just make them Region Coded according to which part of the world they go to.
|
Moderator
|
27. April 2004 @ 20:22 |
Link to this message
|
I don't believe the players do any sort of conversion at all. The players can read both formats fine and most TVs do as well but there are some TVs that have trouble with PAL. I didn't say it was a universal rule :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
|
|
siber
Member
|
27. April 2004 @ 20:37 |
Link to this message
|
My PAL VHS tapes are never watchable on NTSC televisions. That would make me believe that my NTSC televisions cannot handle a PAL signal. As a matter of fact I have an analog PAL/SECAM/NTSC converter for those...
|
|
daba
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
28. April 2004 @ 22:29 |
Link to this message
|
@ siber & Nephilim:
Some players do convert the signal. My JVC player allows me to watch a NTSC DVD on an old PAL TV because it converts the frequency from 60 Hz to 50 Hz. It's stated in the player's specs. Anyway, I'm sure my TV cannot handle NTSC signal.
@ cannew:
There is no need to install a hacked firmware or to spend money for RegionFree. DVD43 does so for free.
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd43.cfm
|
Moderator
|
29. April 2004 @ 09:07 |
Link to this message
|
|
Thank you daba! I stand corrected and will file that bit of info away for future reference :)
My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
|
|
ogryzek
Member
|
30. April 2004 @ 20:07 |
Link to this message
|
Cheap solution... Currently Sams, Walmart, Sears, Radio Shack (and probably many others) cary Cyberhome CH-DVD300 (or 300S) for approx $39.
This unit will do on-the-fly PAL-->NTSC and NTSC-->PAL and output it on any TV set (unfortunately this specific model will not preserve aspect ratio while doing it), (unfortunately, again) will NOT remove Macrovision (as 500 can do), and can be set to any region (or region-free). I am not sure as to RCE behavior. Of course it will do usual MP3, JPEG, etc., etc., playback.
Life is what happens to you while you're out doing something else...
|
|
rick5446
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
30. April 2004 @ 20:57 |
Link to this message
|
|
Hey their OGRYZEK how about a little bit more in-put on that Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 & Macrovision.Do u mean u can hook up your VCR to your DVD player & record a good viewable movie with no fading or fuzzy crap.I've got an AMW that I bought at Circuit City for under $40.00 & I like all the bells & whistles that came on it.Some of the more Expensive or name brands won't do the things this one will.But Alass I've still got that Fuzzy problem with my VCR,still got unplug one & plug the other in.Can't hook them up together
Many Thanks for any help
|
|
ogryzek
Member
|
1. May 2004 @ 07:47 |
Link to this message
|
|
CH-DVD500 will take care of Macrovision (I also have modified Daewoo DVG-3000N that will do the same) via 'secret' menu (remote hack). It stays disabled till you open the tray (sometimes title changge will trigger it back on). The only (minor) problem is that CH-DVD500 is harder to get in retail. It can be still ordered via the Internet. Good info can be found on nerd-out.com message forum.
Edit -> Typo
Life is what happens to you while you're out doing something else...
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. May 2004 @ 12:50
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
culttvguy
Suspended due to non-functional email address
|
23. June 2004 @ 11:50 |
Link to this message
|
I also have many British DVD's.I am in the US,and i play my discs on a Magnavox MDV455 player,which has been hacked for multiregion.Also,I set the DVD player's output signal to NTSC(via the menu),so that it sends a signal that the NTSC TV can recognise.It dosent actually convert the PAL signal to NTSC,but sort of a Pseudo NTSC that the TV understands.The picture dosent looka any different than if you were watching an NTSC picture.
A lot of people tend to forget that region codes have little or nothing to do with the TV System,ie PAL,NTSC,SECAM etc.Once the region code is removed,discs can be played on the vast majority of players in the world,as long as the TV can handle the signal.
Favourite Movie Quotes:
Nuffin' unusual he says.Colin's been carved up,and I've got a bomb in me casino,and you say 'Nuffin unusual' ?
You're gonna need a bigger boat.
I'll be back.
|
