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betazetaX
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7. June 2004 @ 09:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are Ridata branded Ritek G04's a good media?
I checked out videohelp.com
Anyone have an opinion about this brand...???

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7. June 2004 @ 10:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The best!!! that's all I use now. Before I used memorex+r but not any more. Go with Ridata branded Ritek G04's, you can't go wrong with these.
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7. June 2004 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cool. Thanks. I'm a Canuck so I'm gunna order them from www.blankmedia.ca cause are $ is worthless.
Thanks again : )
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7. June 2004 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just got some Ridata Ritek G04's. WOW...they don't have globs of glue spewing out the seam. WOW....they actually produce excellent copies. Just got schooled in bad media 101. If you?re a Canuck like me, steer clear of future shop media...especially there E3 works junk media.

P.S. Anyone wanna buy a spindle of E3 Works DVD-r's
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7. June 2004 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, Ritek/Ridata GO4 is awesome media. Haven't had a bad burn yet and I'm at 300 discs and counting. You check here for prices... also you can see how people favor this media on their poll:

http://www.supermediastore.com/dvdmedia.html
kyle808
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I think I got a crappy set of Ritek Ridata G04, there are globs of glue around the edges of all the DVDs, the first 5 or 6 burned fine and worked, but now I'm getting coasters... mine is labeled RIDATA on the uppper left with 4X DVD-R on the left, some lines on the bottom, looks like a arrow pointing to the right across the DVD.

I do have a different spindle of Ritek G04 with plain top DVD, no branding or anything.. seems to be working great, no glue of the edges.

so i don't know what to think.
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14. June 2004 @ 19:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm... where did you buy them?

Install DVDINFOpro, and tell us what it reads the suspect media as.
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14. June 2004 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's the info from DVDinfo

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 08
2x Speed OPC power 12
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 1B
4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 10 08 09
4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

I got from from newegg.com.. a pretty good site here in the US. Link to actual product.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-132-341&depa=0
RussReef
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Yep, the media code says they're RITEKG04's. So, that's good. Hmmm? I don't know why you got a bad batch. I've had almost 300 burns with these discs, and not a coaster yet. However, the seams on mine aren't gushing glue.

Given that you bought them at newegg, why don't you call them and tell them you got a bad batch (tell them specifically about the glue gushing from the seams that you've observed, and that your other spindle of Ridata doesn't look like that). I bet newegg will let you exchange them, since they're pretty good with customer service. Even if it's for the same brand, chances are that you just got a bad spindle.

Really, lots of people are reporting great sucess with these discs all over!

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I've had pretty good luck with Ritek G04 discs. I use Kprobe to check a lot of my burns and I find that Ritek G04 is one of the more consistant ones. Every now and then I get a batch that isn't quite as good, but still acceptable. Another brand that I have found to be quite acceptable (at least on my Pioneer A07) is Prodisc. They are a little cheaper than Ritek. You can get 100 printables from Supermediastore.com for something like $46.00. I also have a Lite on LDW-411s hacked to 811s and the prodiscs aren't as good on it, though. Of course the Riteks aren't either. Just my $.02.

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RussReef
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15. June 2004 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just found this interesting article on Ridata DVD-R disc quality:

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=76

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kyle808
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Thanks for the info on Ritek... Newegg.com was able to RMA me the same exact spindle again, hopefully, I just got a bad batch the last time. We'll see..

Btw, I was wondering if the Ritek discs that you guys are using have any branding on the disc or do they come completely plain with no branding like the good spindle I got from Supermediastore.com

Is it common for Ritek disc to have plain tops?

Thanks.
RussReef
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15. June 2004 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They come both branded and unbranded. I've only used the unbranded (silver matte) plain-topped ones. It's the composition that's the important part-- how/where you particular disc was manufactured (READ: quality control). Whether branded or not, if the disc is coming from the same manufacturing plant, the disc should perform the same.

One way to know who your disc's manufacturer really is, is to read the media code of your disc with DVDinfo -- to make sure it's genuine! :)

Many "name brand" companies buy media from a variety of different sources/manufacturing plants, and simple put their same brand on them... even though the quality of discs coming from these different sources may be very different. This makes buying by brand name alone, a nightmare!

Follow this link, and scroll down to the bolded title: "I will give two strong examples..." for a better understanding of this:
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t172496.html

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RussReef
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15. June 2004 @ 18:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just for kicks, I went back and looked at the media codes -with DVDinfo- of the older discs I used to buy: Fuji Film (RITEKG..03), Memorex (Prodis..cS0).

Now I just by Ritek G04's straight from the source, unbranded. It's the same exact media, only my money didn't go to a "name brand" company. And, I won't get tripped up, if someone like Fuji all of a sudden decided to switch the particular manufacturing plant they're buying their disc from (and putting their brand on) at the moment.
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I have also burned a batch of Ridata G04's. Excellent burn and the playback quality was excellent. Until about six weeks later when I went to watch a couple of my backed up dvd's. Some of the quality had deteriorated quite a lot.
I still only use Ritek but avoid the Ridata like the plague.
In my opinion they don't keep their original quality.
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I wont use anything else now and U have tried a fair few different types

I havent got any coasters (none that wernt my fault :P ) and they will play on anything



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So I returned my first batch of Ridata 4X G04 to Newegg.com because I was getting coasters and there was glue residue around the entire edges of all the disc. Now I just got my replacement spindle, opened it, check it out, and viola... there's that glue residue again. What's the deal? Has anyone else got these crappy Ridata G04 like me? here's a pic of what they look like


http://www.supermediastore.com/ritek-ridata-4x-dvd-r-retail-box.html

btw, i didn't buy them from supermediastore, got them from newegg.com

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30. June 2004 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Strangeness.

I just got a 50 spingle of the same RiDATA from newegg (cakebox/purple label) and they don't have any glue or other abnormalities about them.



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30. June 2004 @ 09:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe i'm just having really bad luck with these Ridata disc and newegg.com. But I did notice that the price of these disc (cakebox,purple label) has been dropping a few dollars every week, they are incredibably cheap at both supermediastore and newegg now, when all the other Ritek disc are at normal prices. Did you notice that these Ridata disc at newegg.com are not refundable or exchangeable??? Something fishy is going on???

The only success I've had with Ritek, are the ones with with no labels or brandings on the top of the disc that I got from supermediastore.

Funny thing is that they both came in the purble cakebox, both are Ridata G04, but the ones from supermediatore came with plain tops, while newegg's came with branding on the top of the disc that had words and an arrow pointing to the right.

Now I'm not sure what Ritek disc to buy.
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30. June 2004 @ 10:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And never you will be....

I used to use Ritek a while back, and by looking at the codes around the hub determined that a number of branded disks, such as Memorex, where identical to the Ritek version. I checked again recently, and noticed that Memorex now uses a different source. So it seems that source of all disks changes over time.

I have finally decided that with prices dropping drastically at the retail stores (BestBuy, CompUSA), 50 disks now go for $40 (except Princos 2X which CompUSA recently sold for 50 for $20), buying local is easier than going the mail order route.
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I've had the identical problems with Ridata G-O4s (silver label with arrow pointing to the right).

The spools I bought came from http://www.meritline.com and similarly have the glue is gushing out of the sides, just like yours kyle808.

Many are coasters, but of those, some still play fine in my Sony stand-alone SLV-D300P after the machine spins the disk for a couple minutes. However, when I check them in my other newer stand-alone, they are instantly rejected.

I bet my coaster rate is approaching 2 to 3 out of every 5 disks.
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8. July 2004 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
good to know I'm not the only one with the problem, but I'm sorry to hear you're got some crappy discs too though. funny thing with my disc is that Nero will burn all these discs fine with no errors, but they won't play in my stand alone Toshiba (have played every single brand and type fine), but they will play in the computer. I bet all the extra glue is messing up the rotation with the extra weight on the disc.
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I couldn?t agree more. Same thing ? they burn fine, no errors (with Shrink and Nero) and play fine in my computer?s DVD drive; however, in the stand-alone it?s hit and miss. I did notice that if I open and close the stand-alone?s drive door and let the disk get read more than once, some would play on the second or third read. Nevertheless, it?s a complete disappointment.

Worse yet, I just ordered a stack of 100 of these and the first has turned out to be a coaster. I?m sending the rest back!

If anyone can recommend better media, I?m all ears. As of now, I think Ritek (Ridata) G-04 disks (in the ?cakebox?) are about as reliable as Memorex.
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8. July 2004 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have not had any bad experiences with Ritek name brand discs.
But due to price I use Prodisc from supermediastore.com
I don't have any coasters and they burn 8x in my Nec 2500a burners. They cost about 40 cents apiece right now for printable.


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11. July 2004 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interestingly, after exhausting all possible efforts, I found that after reducing the burn speed to 2X down from 4X, not one single coaster has been created. I would have never guessed that this had much to do with the viability of the final product. This is the same regardless of whether the Ritek DVD has glue gushing out of the sides or not. At any rate, I retract what I earlier said about the quality of Ridata/Ritek.

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