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shrink and decrypter
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stewart81
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7. June 2004 @ 10:01 |
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I downloaded the latest version of shrink (3.17) because it is supposed to be able to be set to burn with decrypter as the older version did with nero. Could someone please tell me how to set this in preferences as On looking all I see is the same check box for nero , nothing there at all for decrypter
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brobear
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7. June 2004 @ 10:23 |
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The default setting is still Nero. Recording with Decrypter is a convoluted affair at best. If you must here is how you do it. Uncheck the Nero box, your new selection should be image. Shrink then places a file on your hard disk. You open Decrypter and select ISO write under MODE on the toolbar.
As Nero gives a free trial, I would suggest going to their site and download the trial version and see how Shrink is supposed to work. After all, the default is set for Nero. Don't use the InCD portion of Nero as it can cause interference with other burner software. Shrink and Nero are made for each other (figuratively). Decrypter is an excellent decryption tool, but limited as a burner.
Nero incorporates a complete suite of programs. Look at the Recode, another good editing program. Recode comes with the topline edition, but is a purchase item from licensed trialware download.
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oneacer
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7. June 2004 @ 10:48 |
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Here you go!
Simple DVD Backup Steps
First create a folder for your HD backup. Try to put it someplace where you won?t forget it (i.e. C:/All DVD Work/ (movie name will appear here).
Next download DVD Decrypted (link below) and under mode select ?ISO, Write?. Un-tick the box that says ?verify?. Where it says ?source?, you?ll leave that blank, as DVD Decrypter will find the location of your backed up DVD file automatically. Lastly, where it says ?Destination?, select the drive where your burner resides. Feel free to close DVD Decrypter; DVD Shrink will open it when it needs it.
The link for the newest DVD Decrypter -
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm
Download DVD Shrink (link below). Open it and click ?Edit?, then click ?Preferences? on this page we?re going to select ?DVD Target Size? as custom and set the size as 4360MB - we do this to make extremely sure that our disc isn?t too large. Then under the ?File I/O? tab un-tick ?Enable burning with Nero? then click ?OK?.
The link for the newest DVD Shrink -
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm
Place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner?s drive. (Many people suggest using Ritek G04, Verbatim or media boasting ?Advanced AZO Dye. All other media could very well cause errors, only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Now is definitely not the time to put your cheap stuff in, although there are a lot of people that have success with the cheaper media including myself. )
Now, take just a second and under ?Target Device? go to ?Select target device? once there, select ?ISO Disc Image?. NEXT, IMPORTANT, tick ?Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image? box. Finally, where it says ?Select target image file?, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click ?Save?. That?s it! Click ?OK? and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image to your HD. It then opens DVD Decrypter and has it burn the ISO image to your waiting blank DVD.
P.S. Before you rip with Shrink, you have the option of selecting entire disk or selecting re-author. Most of the time before I rip with Shrink, I select re-author and then double-click on main movie. This moves over only the main movie to the left to be ripped. I don't even bother with the menus, as you can still select chapters with your player.
Don?t use your PC for anything at all while it?s working. -
Good Luck
Special thanks go out to Scuba Pete for this article.
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brobear
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7. June 2004 @ 11:13 |
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See what I mean, easier to just use the Nero which is a better burning ROM.
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stewart81
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7. June 2004 @ 11:52 |
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The reason that I wanted to try decrypter instead was that recently I was having trouble with back ups skipping. Im using quality ritek discs with shrink and Nero on a Pioneer 107d with hacked 1.13 firmware. The problem seems to be worse towards the end of the disc. It just seems to have started when I tried to back up the Godfather trilogy. I also have : Pent 4 1.8 80 gb hd , 768 mb DDR and Ge force 5200 128mb
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brobear
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7. June 2004 @ 13:43 |
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Okay, now that we know what you're trying to do. I doubt Decrypter is going to help. You are dealing with a large movie and encountering compression problems. Usual symptoms are skipping and deterioration of video quality. Tests have shown that Shrink starts to break down on larger movies. Up to about 6GB Shrink does okay. The farther you go upwards the worse the problems become. Check out the following thread for a discussion on various softwares that are more capable of dealing with large movie files. As you already have Nero, I would check out Recode. If it isn't included in the new downloads it will be a purchase item. Check out the URL.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/88038/458725-124751
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stewart81
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8. June 2004 @ 07:54 |
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I also have clone dvd 2 and any dvd would these be better programmes to use for the larger movie Thanks
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brobear
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8. June 2004 @ 11:35 |
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Taking time out here, but will answer this in hopes of not leaving anyone dangling.
Clone DVD 2 and AnyDVD are excellent programs. As long as they don't run into compression problems on the high end.
My personal preferences are InterVideo's DVDCopy2 and Recode2 by Nero for the really big projects. From the thread I mentioned you should have seen several others. They handle the compression better. May I suggest ripping the files to hard drive and using the files from there for recording. (Saves some buffer problems in the long run and gives the laser a rest.)
You can download DVDCopy2 and use it for a few days trial. Easy program controls so no sophisticated input needed. You can just choose the file, the burner drive and enter to burn. You have some choices, like full disc and movie only. Nothing complicated and its all up front. Recode has the better control of editing for advanced work, but it is pay to play and still requires add-on plugins for advanced sound (records Dolby stereo as default though).
AnyDVD works with Recode, I couldn't get it to work with InterVideo software. I use Decrypter to put the files on the hard drive, File or ISO Read under Mode will both do the job. I usually use ISO files and load on an emulator program. Guess you saw one with the Clone pack (that one is not my choice though). Both methods work good. You just have to read the manuals and see what works for you. Good manuals here at AD and at Doom9.org. May I suggest reading through the manuals on Decrypter, Shrink, and Daemon. I put Shrink in there because it is a good tool when used within reason and a good learning tool for editing.
Always remember things are constantly changing and what works okay today may be old tech tomorrow. So keep your eyes open for better ways of doing things. Case in point is the dual layer discs and burners that are coming on the market. New laser technology and disc technology will change the way things are done. A lot of the software programs we now use may not be needed because there will be no need for compressing the files. Decrypters and burners may end up being the only software we need in the end. Lets hope.
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Praetor
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8. June 2004 @ 12:00 |
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Recording with Decrypter is a convoluted affair at best.
That about sums up my dislike for DVD Decryptor in one sentence :P
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I also have clone DVD 2 and any DVD would these be better programmes to use for the larger movie Thanks
If you spent more time on your responses, people would have an easier time helping you. A convoluted question with multiple interpretations helps nobody. :)
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stewart81
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8. June 2004 @ 12:35 |
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I found bro bears responses very helpful and I thank him for that however I felt Praetors to be totally unnecessary . Surely the person seeking the advice should be able to decide whether the answers they get are helpful, also Bro bear obviously knew what I was talking about. As a moderator you should know that the forums are for people seeking help NOT RIDICULE. ( HELPS NOBODY)
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Praetor
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8. June 2004 @ 13:25 |
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Ridicule nothing .. consider this your statement; it can be interpreted as:
"I also have CloneDVD2 and any DVD -- would this be a better program to use for the larger movie?"
"I also have CloneDVD too and AnyDVD -- would these programs be better suited for a larger movie?"
Both of which, when factoring in common typos and shorthand will mean drastically different things -- which leads to my comment that if you spent a little more time making a question clear -- it saves us from doing guesswork and passing the help around. Now I said that because I can sift through the question and get a feel for what you are asking about -- what about some newbie who doesnt quite "get it" and just wants to sit in on a thread and learn? -- it helps everyone involved when questions are presented in a clear concise manner.
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Surely the person seeking the advice should be able to decide whether the answers they get are helpful
Indeed and that is still your right (not that anyone could even begin to deny you that short of disconnecting you from the internet or something) however if you read my comment again -- it helps us to help you (or whoever it happens to be) if the question is clear.
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also Bro bear obviously knew what I was talking about.
The Afterdawn forums consist of a lot more than just you, Brobear and myself. Lets not forget that other people can and do look at threads to learn more here and there -- again, it benifits everyone to be clear.
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As a moderator you should know that the forums are for people seeking help NOT RIDICULE. ( HELPS NOBODY)
Ridicule nothing -- what I said was delivered with the best intent -- it helps us to help you by knowing what exactly you want -- sure BroBear and myself and others might have figured it out however there are other people who might be interesting in sharing an opinion or a perspective but due to a potentially confusing question, not speak up and share their ideas. You shouldnt mistake good advice for ridicule.
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stewart81
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8. June 2004 @ 14:04 |
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Thank you for your English lesson. Surely thats another forum though. Anyway I put it over as how I saw it and in my opinion , although not in yours it read ok to me before I posted. How boring the world would be if we all thought the same. I mean I even spell benefit differently to yourself.Your grammars good though.
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stewart81
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8. June 2004 @ 14:08 |
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Thanks though. Kidding aside I do appreciate the help
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Praetor
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8. June 2004 @ 19:30 |
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Thanks though. Kidding aside I do appreciate the help
That's what im here for ... helpin's my game :)
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okeh
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11. June 2004 @ 14:58 |
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I have the same problem as Stewart81. Using DVD Shrink succcesfully for some time. Now having pixelating & glitches at the end of most of the copies. Cleaned laser, defraged hard drive, freed up space on hard drive,closed all backgrouind apps, same on several makes of dics.
Burning with Nero 6, but have tried other burning progs all with the same result.
Any ideas anyone?
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brobear
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11. June 2004 @ 15:10 |
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Is the pixel problem on everything, including short movies that fit without compression on the 4.7 discs? Or are you attempting the megamovies like Return of the King? Did you use a tool like DVD Identifier to check if you are using a different disc? Several brands use the same manufacturer. I had a run of same manufacturer across four or five brands. Luckily, the discs give good service, so far.
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okeh
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11. June 2004 @ 23:50 |
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I always re author to get rid of all the rubbish apart from the main film, often then having zero compresion.
I use dvdinfo pro to see what the true make of the dics are,(I'm using sony at the moment in a sony burner, tried at all speeds) & to test the discs for errors, & none have even a single block error.
I've also used the Nero app to test for quality & they are ok.
Have tried on several other set top dvd players & although some have bad pixilating, on others it causes a pause in play sometimes completely.
Play perfectly on the pc of course!!
I think it's a ripping or re-auth problem, but I don't know!
I'm using an athlon xp2800 & 1024 of ram & 60gb spare on the hard drive so that should be ok.
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12. June 2004 @ 18:48 |
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Hey everybody... Using Shrink and Decrypter work fine for movies over 6GB. I did Return Of The King using Shrink w/ Decrypter and it turned out just fine. I use several methods of backing up, and the only one I've really noticed a differece was using DVD Rebuilder w/ CCE Basic. Last, I think the biggest thing one can do to improve burns is getting good media.
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12. June 2004 @ 18:52 |
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okeh
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13. June 2004 @ 03:45 |
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Hi flip218,
I'm using a sony dru-510a recorder.
Media = Sony 2x.
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13. June 2004 @ 09:05 |
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Media = Sony 2x.
Okeh,
I would first try new media... I had bad luck with Sony... plus they are over priced. Try some Verbatim Branded discs.
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okeh
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13. June 2004 @ 14:19 |
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flip218,
Thanks for your help!
It's a nightmare, Ive now come to a grinding halt of what to do. I'll try your suggestion of different media.
I've used verbatum in the past & they were ok.
Datawrite red ver2 didn't work at all with my sony.
Bulpaq works sometimes.
When I find one that works ok every time I'll stick with them!
Cheers!
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stewart81
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14. June 2004 @ 09:35 |
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Try Ridisc media its a brand of Ritek G4 and I haven't had a problem with them yet.
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okeh
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10. July 2004 @ 11:54 |
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Have now tried the ridisc G04. Perfect every time!
Thanks!
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brobear
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11. July 2004 @ 01:06 |
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Whew, problem solved. Way to go Stewart81, you the man. Problem media bites the dust again. The software involved was just coincidence. Not really a DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter problem.
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