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8. January 2009 @ 04:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
heres a fooling around burn from the DRU830. Hasnt seen a burn in MONTHS!!! Not bad considering its seen more than my 840 (ALOT ALOT of discs), and made funny clicking/bbzztttzztt sounds throughout!
Burned at 4X. The drive always did prefer 4X.
I imagine 8X would get pretty colorfull, LOL





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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by greensman:
RedRob looky here. lol. Here's your 20A3P disguised as a Sony. :P linky

Mannnn... Thats not right. They shouldnt have the right to put Sony/Nec on a burner that is infact lite-on. That really bothers me. Really shady if you ask me, :( NOT too shabby a scan Binkie7.
By the way, the number 7 is mine. I hold the patent! LOL. Nah... I was born on the seventh, :D

omegaman7,
I don't believe they are re-badged at all! I think many different companies make the parts, judging by all the labels on drives these days. There are too many physical differences for them the just be rebadged anything. I would imagine all of these different components are manufactured by other companies to Sony/Nec/Optiarc's specs and then assembled by Optiarc. I think the term re-badged for optical drives is highly overused and many times wrong. I know that there is at least three different company's labels on a lot of drives. Since it makes no sense to go to the expense of creating drives so physically different, what would be the point? All it would do is increase the costs! I'm not saying that this is 100% across the board, but it does make sense to me! I'm quite sure that a lot of the drive manufacturers, like LiteOn make the exact same drive for many different companies, but I'm fairly certain that Optiarc isn't one of them. Lots of times I've seen drives with different brand names that were absolutely identical. I have yet to see that with the Optiarcs. Possibly the AW models, but the others look different, inside and out. I've repaired enough of them, and that's my observation!

Russ
Russ you may be right when it comes to certain drives like ASUS, they use the same chip that Lite-On does (Mediatek) many times but build a completely different drive. I found that out with the 2 that I purchased. Still decent drives so no worries really. ;)

On the Sony's, the are just Lite-On production models with Sony/Optiarc cosmetics. I've researched this and that's why some Sony's are/have been BENQ's, Liteys, NEC's, and maybe more but those 3 for sure. ;)

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8. January 2009 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i tried the same thing as hobbit and got the same results. CK pm'd at cdf. he said the flasher will use the exe file just fine.and it did. it just wont flash to the newer drive and FW.no biggy as GM and i talked about last night my LH-18A1P prolly has about 1000 burns on it if not close to it. it is/was about time for it to bite the bullet...here is a scan of the last disc it burnt. i scanned it on my LH-20A1S(which now has problems will explain later)




so it is just setting in the tower powerless right now.lol gotta wait for a new drive to get here.

now my LH-20A1S.
i put in a 250gb ide hdd this morning,i took out some sata cables to give me some room to move things around. i noticed when i went to put everything back together, the sata connector on the back of the drive was broke off. only the pins were showing i looked at the cables and the little plastic thing was still in the sata cable. so i just easily plugged it back in and it seems to be working fine. i did that above scan on that drive with the broken part. getting ready to do a burn and see what happens. here is a pic of what I'm talking about that broke.




so i guess I'm in the need of 2 drives now... this flat out sucks. the drive still works but knowing it is broken messes with the mind not knowing if it is gonna mess up?
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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by greensman:
RedRob looky here. lol. Here's your 20A3P disguised as a Sony. :P linky

Mannnn... Thats not right. They shouldnt have the right to put Sony/Nec on a burner that is infact lite-on. That really bothers me. Really shady if you ask me, :( NOT too shabby a scan Binkie7.
By the way, the number 7 is mine. I hold the patent! LOL. Nah... I was born on the seventh, :D

omegaman7,
I don't believe they are re-badged at all! I think many different companies make the parts, judging by all the labels on drives these days. There are too many physical differences for them the just be rebadged anything. I would imagine all of these different components are manufactured by other companies to Sony/Nec/Optiarc's specs and then assembled by Optiarc. I think the term re-badged for optical drives is highly overused and many times wrong. I know that there is at least three different company's labels on a lot of drives. Since it makes no sense to go to the expense of creating drives so physically different, what would be the point? All it would do is increase the costs! I'm not saying that this is 100% across the board, but it does make sense to me! I'm quite sure that a lot of the drive manufacturers, like LiteOn make the exact same drive for many different companies, but I'm fairly certain that Optiarc isn't one of them. Lots of times I've seen drives with different brand names that were absolutely identical. I have yet to see that with the Optiarcs. Possibly the AW models, but the others look different, inside and out. I've repaired enough of them, and that's my observation!

Russ
Russ you may be right when it comes to certain drives like ASUS, they use the same chip that Lite-On does (Mediatek) many times but build a completely different drive. I found that out with the 2 that I purchased. Still decent drives so no worries really. ;)

On the Sony's, the are just Lite-On production models with Sony/Optiarc cosmetics. I've researched this and that's why some Sony's are/have been BENQ's, Liteys, NEC's, and maybe more but those 3 for sure. ;)

....gm

If that's the case, I guess they are going for what is the most cost effective for them. I look at it this way, A good drive is a good drive, regardless of whose name is on it, so you get the one that's the most bang for the buck. Quality is Quality! LOL!!

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Considering the shaky availability of the AD-7200s, what's a good burner to buy these days? I'm confused as hell with ProVantage. One place says they have them and another doesn't. I found it on line but the url Will gave me doesn't work anymore. I know GM likes the Samsungs and the LiteOns. What models, and yes I'm going to go Sata against my better judgment!

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8. January 2009 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
heres the FIRST run on my second optiarc 7200A. Not bad! Chalk up another good optiarc! Whoops, dont wanna hexx the burner, LOL. I love the sound that it makes when it checks for discs :D


I guess this ones got the same buffer irregularity (holds 95%). Quickest burn time for 8X though :D



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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Considering the shaky availability of the AD-7200s, what's a good burner to buy these days? I'm confused as hell with ProVantage. One place says they have them and another doesn't. I found it on line but the url Will gave me doesn't work anymore. I know GM likes the Samsungs and the LiteOns. What models, and yes I'm going to go Sata against my better judgment!

Russ
Russ you might consider a 20x LG or the new AD-7220 drives from Sony/optiarc. :D We need someone to try one of the new Sony drives. :P I like the Samsungs to a point but I'd rather have a Sony/NEC, Litey, LG, or even Pioneer first. I've NOT had the best luck with Samsungs but again I've only had 3. ;)

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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Considering the shaky availability of the AD-7200s, what's a good burner to buy these days? I'm confused as hell with ProVantage. One place says they have them and another doesn't. I found it on line but the url Will gave me doesn't work anymore. I know GM likes the Samsungs and the LiteOns. What models, and yes I'm going to go Sata against my better judgment!

Russ
Russ you might consider a 20x LG or the new AD-7220 drives from Sony/optiarc. :D We need someone to try one of the new Sony drives. :P I like the Samsungs to a point but I'd rather have a Sony/NEC, Litey, LG, or even Pioneer first. I've NOT had the best luck with Samsungs but again I've only had 3. ;)

...gm

I thought you said that the AD-7220 was NG! Forget about Pioneer! The two I've installed for customers were Annoyingly LOUD! Vibrated like a Mother! Same goes for Philips

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8. January 2009 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:

I thought you said that the AD-7220 was NG! Forget about Pioneer! The two I've installed for customers were Annoyingly LOUD! Vibrated like a Mother! Same goes for Philips

Russ

LOL, im not gonna comment on that one ;) Lets just say Philips has no place in my life! They've failed EVERYTIME! Pretty sad. Ok, I commented, LOL
Oh... I heard that the 7220's were indeed sony/nec. Gonna have to give those a shot!



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Now my Pioneers - one old one DVR-108 I think and a newer one DVR-215D are both quiet as a church mouse :)

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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by theonejrs:

I thought you said that the AD-7220 was NG! Forget about Pioneer! The two I've installed for customers were Annoyingly LOUD! Vibrated like a Mother! Same goes for Philips

Russ

LOL, im not gonna comment on that one ;) Lets just say Philips has no place in my life! They've failed EVERYTIME! Pretty sad. Ok, I commented, LOL
Oh... I heard that the 7220's were indeed sony/nec. Gonna have to give those a shot!

GM,
That's what I thought they were, so I'll give one a try. 7220 or 7221?

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8. January 2009 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by binkie7:
Now my Pioneers - one old one DVR-108 I think and a newer one DVR-215D are both quiet as a church mouse :)

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I'd say "Woof", but that might get me in trouble! LOL!!

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I'd say "Woof", but that might get me in trouble! LOL!!


lol - a woof here or there - what the heck :)




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8. January 2009 @ 23:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:

Russ you might consider a 20x LG or the new AD-7220 drives from Sony/optiarc. :D We need someone to try one of the new Sony drives. :P
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gonna order a AD-7220 in the morning hope to have it monday. if it is a rebadged litey does that mean it will scan like one?
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9. January 2009 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have to agree with Binkie on the noise level of the Pioneer drive that I have.

Here would be my suggestions in order...

Pioneer 216D ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129032

NEC 7220 ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118023

Samsung 223F ~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171

...or one of the Litey iHAS models.

I haven't researched drives in a while so none of these make me salavate outside the Pioneer. I remember reading some mixed reviews on the 7220, but I'm haven't read any conclusions lately. I will say of the four drives in my tower the LiteOn is by and far the loudest, clankiest drive there...the rest (Pioneer 215D, NEC 7200 and Samsung 203B) are equally quiet.


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9. January 2009 @ 02:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Chalk up another AWESOME verbatim burn, from my newest 7200A. Dont get me wrong, I love TY, but what im seeing with these verbatim burns is not much less than perfection. Their name is WELL deserved. Quite possibly the lowest Pi E scan ive seen (average anyway)! And im also gonna start leaning toward verbatim, when searching for good buys between the two :D


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9. January 2009 @ 02:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man... This alex grey you speak of has some serious wicked psychedelic artwork! Gonna have to look into that some more. Sorry about off topic guys. Another scan coming up. Gonna watch a video while it burns, to see if its effected.



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Well... Thats real cute!!! Go to run some tests, And the rest of my media is (*&(&^%&... Theres a common flaw on my remaining verbs! Oh well. Its my own fault I suppose. Seriously, I have a way with words. Not 2 posts ago, im raiving about verbatim... and here we have it. I really gotta shut my mouth from now on. I swear, I have a way with words. I have this uncanny way of hexxing things. Must be some kinda curse, LOL. No biggie I guess. There were only 6 left in the cake package. At .20cents a disc, im really not gonna complain(black friday special). Suppose its a reasonable scan though. I was watching a television show while it was burning. Gotta love MULTI DRIVES :D





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9. January 2009 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i wouldnt worry about that one spike. take that away and you got another awsome scan. that could have been a flake on the disc or something. i wouldnt worry.
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Omega wasn't it just a monthe ago, you were miffed by these 95 scans??? LOL :P But now you're getting it right. 95s are awesome scans.


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9. January 2009 @ 09:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...&page=3&bop=And

there we go. on order. not sure if im gonna take out my LH-20A1S or not(has the broken sata connector). it works fine so far.
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9. January 2009 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im about to pull my hair out here.
im trying to use the 7200A drive now. puta TY in and using create disc with nero to burn from the new hdd i installed, i get this error with it



and at that point my drive is dead. no power nothing. until i reboot the system it is working with my 7200S but it looks nasty. im wondering if its the ODD or that HDD haven a problem. maybe i need to reformat it. any ideas?

EDIT to add
this is what it looks like right now with the 7200S



well i fixed the problem with the 7200A drive. bad cable. or cable connection. swapped out cables and its fine.
but i dont know why the 7200S looks like that unless its cable is loose. i did check all those cables while i was in there. gonna give it a try again here in a min once the 7200A is done with its thing.
i wonder if trying to burn them crappy F16's at 16x had something to do with it.???

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9. January 2009 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
heres what a good dis will do..lol these F16 office depot disc are given me some real fits right now. i got about 70 of them might set them out for the garbage man and see if he has a neeeeeed for them..lol


18x burn.. doing the scan now


might try and overburn one of the sweet 8xTY's use imgurn and try one at 10x..

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