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18. November 2010 @ 13:23 |
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ECS A740GM-M Motherboard
Processor Socket: AMD
Processor Interface: Socket AM2+
Form Factor: Micro ATX
Processors Supported:
AMD Phenom
AMD Sempron
AMD Athlon 64
Additional Technologies: RoHS Compliant
HyperTransport Bus: 2000 MT/s
Northbridge: AMD 740G
Southbridge: SB700
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Supported: 400MHz DDR2
533MHz DDR2
667MHz DDR2
800MHz DDR2
Number of Pins: 240-Pin
Number of Slots: 2
Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB - 64bit 4GB - 32bit
Max. Memory Supported Per Slot: 4GB
Channels: 6 Channels
LAN Type: 10/100 Mbps
PS/2 Keyboard Connectors: 1
PS/2 Mouse Connectors: 1
Serial Communication Ports: 1
USB Ports (Total): 10
USB Rear Panel Ports: 4
USB Onboard Headers: 3 - (expandable to 6 USB ports)
LAN Ports: 1
Audio Out Jacks: 1
IDE Headers: 1
Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s Headers: 6
ATX Power Connectors: 1 24-Pin Connector
PC Power Connectors: 1 - 4 Pin
Fan Connectors: 2
S/PDIF Connectors: 1
VGA Ports: 1
PCI Slots: 2
PCI Express X1 Slots: 1
PCI Express X16 Slots: 1
Video Chipset: Integrated
RAID Support: Yes
RAID Modes: 10
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AMD Phenom X4 9750 Quad Core Processor
Manufacturer: AMD
CPU Type: Desktop
Processor Interface: Socket AM2+
Processor Class: Phenom X4
Processor Speed: 2.40GHz
Cores: Quad
Cache Size: 128KB
L2 Cache: 512KB
L3 Cache: 2 MB
Wattage: 95W
Cooler Master Fan for AMD CPUs
Fan Type: CPU Fan
Fan Size: 70mm
Socket Type: 939
754
940
AM2
AM3
Bearing Type: 2 Ball-Bearing
RPM: 3050 ~ 6000 RPM
Air Flow: 29.29 ~ 41.95 CFM
Noise Level: 28 ~ 46.5 dBA
Heatsink Material: Aluminum
Maximum Processors Supported: Athlon 64
Athlon 64 FX
Opteron
Phenom
AMD Phenom
Athlon 64 X2
Phenom II
Athlon II
Static Pressure: 2.346 ~ 8.308 mmH2O
Voltage: 12 V
Current: 0.18A (MAX)
Connector(s): 4-Pin Motherboard
Heatsink Dimensions: 99 x 66 x 110 mm
Life Hours: 70,000 Hours
Seagate Barracuda 1TB Low Power Hard Drive
Drive Type: Internal
Interface: SATA-3G
Interface Type: SATA
Spindle Speed (RPM): 5900
Buffer Memory: 32MB
Average Latency (msec): 5.5
Data Transfer Rate on Serial ATA: Up to 3000 Mb/sec
Temperature, Operating (°C): 0 to 60
Temperature, Nonoperating (°C): -40 to 70
Shock, Operating: 2 msec (Gs): 70J
Shock, Nonoperating: 2 msec (Gs): 350
PowerUp ATX Black Mid-T Case w/ 450w PSU
120mm Fan Ports: 1
Form Factor: ATX Mid-Tower
Compatible Motherboards: ATX Micro ATX
Bezel Type: LED Illuminated
Side Panel Type: Clear
Power Supply: 450 Watt
Material: Steel
Special Features: Power Supply 12v Rail: 210W
External 5.25" Drive Bays: 4
External 3.5" Drive Bays: 2
Internal 3.5" Drive Bays: 4
Expansion Slots: 7
Front USB Ports: 2
Front Audio Ports: 2
Corsair 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory
Memory Category: Desktop
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Speed: PC6400
Memory Speed MHz: 800MHz
Memory Size: 2048MB
Total Memory Size: 2GB
Memory Modules: 1
Memory Channels: Dual
Memory Socket: DIMM
$258.84 USD
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& if it is... what video card is best for it?...
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18. November 2010 @ 14:39 |
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$260 is a lot of money to pay for a terrible motherboard, an extremely slow CPU and some RAM. That combo is probably barely worth $100.
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19. November 2010 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
$260 is a lot of money to pay for a terrible motherboard, an extremely slow CPU and some RAM. That combo is probably barely worth $100.
Don't forget about a hard drive that is probably 2 years old and a power supply that I wouldn't trust to charge a cell phone...those have to add at least $10 to the value.
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19. November 2010 @ 01:38 |
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Oh I didnt notice the hard drive and PSU in there. The HDD is OK I would guess, but the PSU is definitely to be avoided, absolutely lethal.
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19. November 2010 @ 02:19 |
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thx for ur comments... so i guess thats not a good deal... can u know if its possible to get a decent system for or @ the most $300.00 USD in the states?... thx again...
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19. November 2010 @ 02:21 |
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19. November 2010 @ 02:25 |
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19. November 2010 @ 03:10 |
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any suggestions on a video card for these options... so it can be a kind of a gamer systems?...
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19. November 2010 @ 03:12 |
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19. November 2010 @ 03:16 |
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edit: double post when I shouldn't have :P
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19. November 2010 @ 03:28 |
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is it for the 1st or for the 2nd option?... is the first processor good enough for a gamer system?... and is 2 gigs ram also enough?... i can make it without the hhd... i have several 500gb...
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19. November 2010 @ 03:43 |
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Ugh, not really. I would much rather 4GB of RAM for a gaming PC> It's not too difficult, but it does add cost, though if you can spare a drive for the system that will help. (Remember it needs to be blank to install windows to it ideally)
The CPU in the $400 build is OK for gaming, but the dual core in the $330 is a bit on the weak side. It would do for games, but you'd be compromising performance a fair bit.
The $400 build is $308 without the hard disk. Adding in the HD5670 that's $416, then upgrading the 2GB of RAM to 4GB like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184
is a further $27, bringing the total to $443.
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19. November 2010 @ 03:54 |
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thx... lets then forget about the 1st one... i just could come up with the xtra in 2 or 3 weeks... its the 2nd one a setup for what os?...
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19. November 2010 @ 06:43 |
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Well, PC hardware will take almost any OS you like. I recommend Windows 7 64-bit for most people, but obviously that's not included in the price here.
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19. November 2010 @ 18:58 |
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ok... i have a xp pro from my dead comp... ill try and save for the upgrade as fast as i can probably by xmas... lol... thx again...
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20. November 2010 @ 06:52 |
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IF you go with XP, you can't have more than 4GB memory total...that is including the video memory. You can have more installed; you just won't be able to use it.
As for gaming, your budget is a bit too low to build a true gaming machine. There is a new option for people in your situation...cloud gaming. These games won't look as good as the same games being played on a high-end PC (not even as good as a xbox360), but it is really the only way you will get most modern games to play smoothly on an economy PC.
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20. November 2010 @ 07:20 |
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To be fair, the X4 635 with an HD5670 and 4GB of RAM would offer at least as good an experience as cloud gaming I think. It's no great gaming PC, but it's definitely a reasonable start. Of course it is well beyond the initial $300 budget.
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20. November 2010 @ 15:50 |
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ok here is the deal... i used my now dead comp to do basically web surfing, e-mails, youtube video watching may be some online music here and there... play some recreational poker and yahoo & msn games... i dont even have a xbox or play station none of that... i never paid much attention to that... about 2 or three weeks ago i was @ a friend house & played a game 1 of those war based ones... & i im hooked... since i need a new comp... im thinking to build a gaming 1... now im not planing to spend thousands of dollars on it... im not that hooked... yet... lol... right now i have $300 more or less... i want one (comp) that i can play games on it & on line decently... no freezing or crashing or anything like that... obviously i dont know what cloud gaming is... but im thinking i dont what that... some one told me that i could build 1 like that for around $250 or $300... now i know thats not true... but i could save up to & thats the most im willing to spend on a comp... $600 hopefully before xmas... i hope thats enough... or ill have to forget my playing ideas... im planing to buy an xbox or play station too... i dont know whats best just yet im still debating that... but i guess thats for another forum... so let set the really really very top @ that... $600... so what i think i need is this: a processor, a mother board, video card if possible 1 that i can connect to a hdtv... a power supply, memory, & a case... hard drive a have some 500gb... dvd burner i got 1 & keyboard & mouse... monitor i have an lcd 1... about an os i have a friend that have a friend that works @ the local university according to him i can get windows 7 really really cheap... if im forgetting something please let me know... i really appreciate your help... and again thx...
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21. November 2010 @ 07:45 |
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Good god that's a lot of ellipsis... :P
Ok, basically, for games there are a few defining factors that decide how much you should spend on a gaming capable PC. Required performance (It must run at least this smoothly), Required graphics (e.g. I'm happy with any graphics setting as long as it runs ok, or, I want maximum quality everytime), and titles list (e.g. I don't need to run Crysis, but it does need to play Call of Duty well).
Of course, not everybody has clearly defined requirements for this so the simplest thing to do is basically to buy whatever you can afford.
The sad fact about PC games is that they get more demanding over time as PC hardware improves, so the more you spend, the longer it will last before it becomes increasingly difficult to play current titles.
CPU, board, RAM, graphics card, power supply and case will do, as long as the hard drives you have can be emptied [I always recommend installing windows to a blank hard drive. If you have nowhere to move the data to on your existing drives I'd recommend buying another)
For $600 that's not too difficult to build a reasonably decent system. All graphics cards can connect to HDTVs as long as your TV has an HDMI port [all true HDTVs will do].
X4 955: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
870A-UD3 MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443
4GB XMS3 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
XFX Radeon HD6850 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505
Antec EA-380D Green PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
Antec 300 case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
This is $626 and actually represents a much more powerful system than you would normally get for such money as it has been skewed in favour of graphics performance for games, and does not include a hard drive.
If $626 is a bit too far beyond the budget though, you can swap the graphics card with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150501
and cut $70 off the price.
I would still of course recommend the HD6850 as it is a good 70% faster than the HD5770, but the 5770 is still a reasonably capable card (It can achieve a respectable minimum frame rate of 32 in Call of Duty Black Ops at the highest detail level on a 1080p HDTV. Sadly, not all games are as forgiving as Call of Duty :P)
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22. November 2010 @ 23:02 |
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thx... but oh well... i have so many many questions... i just hope u dont get bored or tired of helping me & answering my questions... ok lets start with some thing that i notice... & pls remember that i dont know a thing about gaming systems... about the video card that u r recommending me on the specs say that the minimum is 500 watt power supply required... but u r recommending me a 380 watts one... (Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply)... is this gonna work?... or do i really need a bigger 1?... whats better 1 memory stick or two?... what i mean its 1 4gbs or 2 2gbs?... also i got thinking that im gonna need a remote control to play the games... right?... around how much do those run for?... what kind?... r they universal?... with 1 u can play all the games... or @ least the majority?... also what internet speed do i need to play online games?... & like i said before i want / wanted to buy a xbox or playstation too... does it make any sense?... if i have a gaming comp do i really need any of those?... or it will be better to used that money on the comp?... or will i be better off buying the xbox or playstation... i just recently discover u can play online with those too... hope u can respond & its not too much... lol... thx...
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23. November 2010 @ 20:37 |
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The minimum PSU stated is 500W because there are far too many units out there that deliver less power than they say they do.
In reality, an X4 955 with an HD6850 will require no more than about 250W for the whole system.
Memory is always better in pairs (i.e. 2 or 4 sticks) because that allows dual channel mode, which improves performance.
You play PC games with a keyboard and mouse. If you didn't know this, I'm not sure building a PC for gaming was a good idea.
Some games can of course be played with a controller still, most in fact, but generally it is far far better to use a keyboard and mouse with the exception of racing games.
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23. November 2010 @ 22:10 |
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thx again for taking the time to answer my questions... well like i said before i never paid much attention to games & i dont know a thing about playing... either on xbox or playstation or pc or none of that... but i want to learn... i played some games & i got hooked... so i wanna keep playing... i played on a xbox... & since my comp died not long ago & i need one i guess it makes sense to get one for gaming & my basic comp needs... the one i build lasted me 4 yrs or so... i really need the advice from someone that knows about all this & that is willing to help me like you so far... i hope this is the case... i accept that i didnt know that pc games are played with the keyboard & mouse... i guess everybody started somewhere @ some point... lol... now let me continue if you will with the questions... if i have a gaming comp do i really need any of those?... (xbox, playatation, etc)... or it will be better to used that money on the comp?... or will i be better off buying the xbox or playstation... i just recently discover u can connect them to play online... whats it the minimum internet speed for online gaming?... once again thx...
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23. November 2010 @ 22:15 |
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Well to be quite honest, if you have absolutely no experience with PC games and have no reason to play them over console games, you may be better off getting a games console. It usually comes down to there being a game on the PC you want to play that isn't on a games console.
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23. November 2010 @ 22:36 |
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ok... this are my facts... 1-. i need a new comp... 2-. i want to play online games... 3-. i dont have any experience playing online games on a comp... 4-. i dont have any experience playing online games on a xbox, playstation, or none of those... so according to this facts... im better off playing on any game console rather than in a comp?... the games i liked r those war based ones... (Halo, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, & the like)... thx...
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23. November 2010 @ 22:38 |
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Well if it were me I'd go the PC route as in my mind it's more versatile, but it's a matter of opinion, and also a matter of whether there are any particular games you really want to play.
Halo is an Xbox-only franchise as of the recent games. Assassins Creed is available on all platforms, PC included.
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