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1. August 2009 @ 16:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah I had multiple problems. Overclocks would usually reset after I restart saying I have a bad overclock at like 3.4ghz. I also couldnt get a post in dual channel 1 and most of the time after I overclock it just restarts before I even get to the windows loading screen and Im at stock speed of 2.83.
I just need some good 1066 RAM, but the thing is the corsair 1066 is 70$+, Im only looking to spend 60 at the most. OCZ has some cheaper memory for around 60 thats 1066mhz. just want to know if corsair is that much better.

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1. August 2009 @ 16:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OCZ is probably likely not to work at all. OCZ memory often exhibits compatibility problems, and can even be unreliable in a board it does work with.



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Ill just have to shell out some money in the future to get the corsair RAM then. Right now 2.83ghz is still fast enough but I want
"MORE POWER" XD lol

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Sure is, same good value as the old standard XMS2 but with a slightly better cooler. It's effectively the same RAM as mine but with a smaller cooler and half the price...



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Ok.. the RAM just came (1 day wait!!) and I installed it. The first channel on my motherboard kept restarting so I tried channel 2 and it works great. just did a minor 2.83 to 3.4 ghz overclockwith 1.25v. since the fsb is 400 I put the ram at 800mhz (2.00D) with 2.00v and stock timings of 5-6-6-18. just wondering if those settings will work around maybe 3.6-3.8ghz in the future, and wondering if I could run the ram at 1066Mhz with the fsb at 400 or would that cause instability? I think 2.66D allowed 400Fsb with 1066mhz of ram.
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I tried 1066mhz with a 400fsb and wouldnt boot right. Do I need to increase voltage or change timings or something? I heard with my specific ram you can get 1100mhz+ and still have an overclocked cpu. Hows that possible?

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Use at least 2.1V for 1066mhz. I use 2.15V.
To get 1066 RAM you need either use 2.66D (400x2.66 = 1066 RAM, 400x8.5 = 3.4Ghz CPU) or 2.00D if you want to go further. If you want to try 1100mhz then go for 2.66D and an FSB of 414 (3.52Ghz). Any higher on the CPU and you will have to use 2.00D and underclock the RAM.



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*************************************
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
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Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.5
CPU Frequency ........................: 3.40Hz( 400x8.5)
********** Clock Chip Control ********
>>>>>  Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [400]
PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
>>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
CPU Clock Drive.......................: [900mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [700mV]
CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
******** DRAM Performance Control ********
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Auto]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.66D]
Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Auto]
>>>>> Standard Timing Control
x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
x tRCD ...........................6...: [5]
x tRP.............................6...: [5]
x tRAS...........................18...: [18]
****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
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>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore..............1.23750V.......: [1.25000V]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [Auto]
CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [Auto]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
>>> MCH/ICH
MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [Auto]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.000V]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]

These settings restart everytime I try to boot, what needs to be changed? does the channel (which is B) need reference voltage?

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22. August 2009 @ 04:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
set performance enhance to "standard"

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Agreed.



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put the DRAM voltage to 2.1 and MCH core votlage to 1.3. which slots are you ram in?



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their in 2 and 4... for some reason 1 and 3 acts funny.
Im actually at 3.66GHz stable with the RAM at 1032Mhz..

Cant seem to get 2.8ghz though.
these are my current settings


*************************************

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
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Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.5
CPU Frequency ........................: 3.655Hz( 430x8.5)
********** Clock Chip Control ********
>>>>> Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [430]
PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
>>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: [900mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [700mV]
CPU Clock Skew........................: [ 0ps]
MCH Clock Skew........................: [ 0ps]
******** DRAM Performance Control ********
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Auto]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.40B]
Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Auto]
>>>>> Standard Timing Control
x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
x tRCD ...........................6...: [5]
x tRP.............................6...: [5]
x tRAS...........................18...: [18]
****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
-----------------------------------------------
>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore..............1.23750V.......: [1.25000V]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.220V]
CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.500V]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
>>> MCH/ICH
MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [Auto]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.100V]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]


What needs to be increased? these settings actually boot with 2.00D Ram multiplier but BSOD's randomly so its not stable.
I want 3.8ghz but still have highly clocked RAM...if possible..

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down clock the ram to a 1:1 multi with the FSB, and then put 1.35V through the Vcore and 1.3 through the MCH. then try for 3.8



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You can't use high FSBs and have full speed RAM unless you're using 1200mhz RAM, which isn't really doable most of the time anyway. Use 450FSB and 900mhz RAM.
Shaff: Remember Knucklez has a Gigabyte board, 1.3V is default. Raise it to 1.35



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1.3 is default for the vcore or MCH? Ill try the 450fsb after your answer. and how much does the RAM MHz actually m,atter? thanks.

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1.3V MCH is default for Gigabyte P45 boards (+0.20V).
Memory speed is only really important in that you should not exceed your memory's rated speed. Going under (to a certain extent) is fine, and doesn't hurt performance too much.



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Thanks.... 3.825Ghz was IBT stable and I havent had any problems so Im a try Prime later on today... If its stable Ill shoot for 4GHz.. What else should I change for that?

(and to be clear your asking me in increase MCH +20 right?)
Thanks again and again and again lol..

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No, what I'm saying is that 'Auto' is the same as +0.20V for the MCH, not +0.00V. This, I believe is unique to Gigabyte boards, and explains why they achieve such high voltages on auto voltages, but have warm-running chipsets.
3.825Ghz is a very commonly achieved figure and most systems can handle it with ease. Prior to doubling my graphics cards that was my 24/7 for a good few weeks.
4Ghz, however, or rather, anything above 465x8.5(3953mhz) is where it gets a bit tricky, as most of the maximum limits of FSB for various boards are around here. P35 and X38 are limited to a maximum of 455FSB by design, they will not go further. X48s tend to go from 460 to 480 max depending on which board and what hardware is installed (though quad crossfire drops it down to about 445 with sensible volts). P45 is the highest achiever at up to around 505, but more commonly runs to 460-490.



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ok so auto=1.3v on the MCH core right?
Ill probably stay where im at but ill eventually try 4ghz with these same settings and see how it does. The 4Ghz mark is pretty much just for bragging rights... although ive seen xeons overclocked to well over 5GHz.. CRAZY!! lol.. I wonder how those perform..

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5Ghz, but probably on phase cooling.
The main problem is that to get silly numbers even if you get the temps down, the voltages are so high the chip gets fried regardless. If you look at the extreme overclocking forum threads out there, the vast majority of the ones that keep going, a few dozen pages and a couple of months further in, they've usually fried the CPU and had to get another. It means nothing to these people as they can afford it, but most people who try to emulate these results don't realise it, and may not have that sort of money to waste.



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Great point. whats the point of 4ghz when you can on;y run it for 2 or 3 months? I know I dont have the money for another quad.. lol..
That being said Ill just stay at 3.825ghz or go up to 3.83Ghz just so I can have the whole 1 ghz increase.

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Originally posted by sammorris:
You can't use high FSBs and have full speed RAM unless you're using 1200mhz RAM, which isn't really doable most of the time anyway. Use 450FSB and 900mhz RAM.
Shaff: Remember Knucklez has a Gigabyte board, 1.3V is default. Raise it to 1.35
thats not true. my GA-EP45-DS3R, its default MCH is 1.1v i have it set now at +.20 giving me the 1.3v and my vcore default is 1.250v which i have it set right now to 1.325v with the vdrop to 1.280
with a FSB of 502x8.5 giving me a nice 4.26ghz OC and my mem is running at 1004mhz usieng the 2.00D 1:1 ratio 5-8-8-18 im now useing the G-Skill ddr2 1066 (PC8500) 2x2 kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
great mem.

with the UD3P board you should be able to get 4.0+ with ease.
i had to tweak about everything i could to get ti stable where its at now.
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Have you measured it? If so what with? Bear in mind +0.20V may only become default once the PC is overclocked. This is at least the case for the P35, X38 and X48 boards, but obviously I haven't had a Gigabyte P45 so I can't test it. (Remember, I'm saying Auto = 0.20V, not that 0.00V is 0.2V higher than it should be). By using +0.00V you lower the voltage 0.20V below auto)



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I just started prime95 and its been stable for a couple of hours plus I was using it the whole time. Im pretty sure its stable and I have no doubts I can get to 4Ghz... Im just skeptical about 24/7 with 4Ghz....

 
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