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Ya your right Russ it was the 58 Turnpike but he also had the 67 Cyclone too, my mistake. Both were fast cars but I sure loved the old Turnpike very sweet ride. My 442 with the W31 455 in it would walk all over him but we sure had fun. Another friend had the only car that could beat mine including another guy with a 442 and he had a 67 barracuda with a 440 Interceptor dual points engine, man that car was fast! I had another friend with a 69 race orange with blue stripes Pontiac Judge that car could give me problems too.

My SanDisk Ultra 120GB & Corsair Nova Series 60GB are comparable too. You can't get too carried away by the specs with SSD's

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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That Dart was a great car, I had a Jr High buddy that had the six pack setup and it was very fast with all of that BHP on such a lite body. The down side was in MN they would rust out real quick. I would have loved to play with a 426 Hemi and those Carter's were great carb's however they really drained the fuel. But so did my Holley and actually the Rochester Spread bores were much better for efficiency.

I had a really nice mint 65 Impala SS 327 but unfortunately in poor weather I wrapped it up in a sound barrier wall on a freeway. My cousin had the 68 SS and I really liked that, very nice car.



Another nice but newer car I had was a 1987 Fiero GT. This is what it looked like but mine was much nicer.



I belong to Super Media Store as well and saw the great deal on that ADATA SSD, you're right you can't beat the deal.

Fun stuff,
Stevo

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Never was much for compact sports cars but the Fiero will not be denied. I had an '88 V6 Formula with an automatic for a short while and it was a blast. Started burning oil and other such horrible problems. Later found out the previous owner had put the wrong torque convertor in it, and it had been revved well over the redline several times. It had the right torque converter by the time I got it, but it was too late to save the engine. Only regret it wasn't manual.

Have the same 2.8L V6 in my Camaro. Good little engines but not much power. Seemed a LOT more fun in the Fiero. Currently seeing what I can do without forced air induction. New cam, heads, headers, aluminum intake, etc ie the works. Plus a 2 barrel Weber carb from an '87 Fiat X9 Bertone. Seems Fiat took a few things from GM's book in their time together ;P Cbf'd to find the CFM raing ATM but it's a substantial upgrade from the bogged down crap the General fitted her with.

There was even an intake heater sandwiched between the carb and intake, and that was just horrible. Clogging up the intake and basically heating any intake air, even after the engine was up to temp. I guess GM had the idea that since fuel burns cleaner once the engine is up to temp, heating the intake air would help cut down emissions. Well, I've had an exhaust sensor on the car, and without the emissions crap, it gets better ratings than the car did stock...

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Not a surprise on the emissions issue as that was a learning period and forced cleanup by the gov. There were definitely some hokey things about the Fiero but like Russ said it was a joy to drive and one other thing I didn't mention is at high speeds you didn't feel like you were going fast, you could be at 100mph and still think you were only going 50mph.

The 2.8L was a good engine but was really under powered for its rating unless you upped it to a 3.2L with other performance upgrades like you touch on. Stock in a Camaro it wouldn't perform as well as you have a heavier car and loose in the drive train as compared to the mid engine design of the Fiero. At least you didn't put it in a Firebird as they were extremely heavy.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Not a surprise on the emissions issue as that was a learning period and forced cleanup by the gov. There were definitely some hokey things about the Fiero but like Russ said it was a joy to drive and one other thing I didn't mention is at high speeds you didn't feel like you were going fast, you could be at 100mph and still think you were only going 50mph.

The 2.8L was a good engine but was really under powered for its rating unless you upped it to a 3.2L with other performance upgrades like you touch on. Stock in a Camaro it wouldn't perform as well as you have a heavier car and loose in the drive train as compared to the mid engine design of the Fiero. At least you didn't put it in a Firebird as they were extremely heavy.

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Steveo,

When I moved out here in 2000, I went to get the emissions certified. CA has this crazy deal where they can only charge so much, and it's almost always the top figure. The guy gives me an estimate for all the extras he said I needed to pass, and I said forget it, it passes right now. He says that I needed a new Cat Converter, that I didn't have one. Even when I showed it to him he said it wasn't a Cat. I had to get all the paperwork out and show him it was a Walker Platinum wire type that breathed far better than the stock GM piece of junk. I finally wound up telling the guy to put it on the machine, that it will pass. He asked me how I knew that, and I told him that I had already run CA's test on it before I left Nevada, and it passed with flying colors. He finally conceded and hooked it up, and got some of the lowest numbers he had ever seen in a GM 2.8 liter V6. I paid for the certificate. No extras! LOL!! Bunch of crooks!

BTW, How's your 955BE doing. I'm still thinking about the FX-8150 for mine. Hey, I have to do something before I die, right! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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I would have thought the 370Z would have done better? Maybe it was the driver??

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BTW, How's your 955BE doing. I'm still thinking about the FX-8150 for mine.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Not a surprise on the emissions issue as that was a learning period and forced cleanup by the gov. There were definitely some hokey things about the Fiero but like Russ said it was a joy to drive and one other thing I didn't mention is at high speeds you didn't feel like you were going fast, you could be at 100mph and still think you were only going 50mph.

The 2.8L was a good engine but was really under powered for its rating unless you upped it to a 3.2L with other performance upgrades like you touch on. Stock in a Camaro it wouldn't perform as well as you have a heavier car and loose in the drive train as compared to the mid engine design of the Fiero. At least you didn't put it in a Firebird as they were extremely heavy.

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Steveo,

When I moved out here in 2000, I went to get the emissions certified. CA has this crazy deal where they can only charge so much, and it's almost always the top figure. The guy gives me an estimate for all the extras he said I needed to pass, and I said forget it, it passes right now. He says that I needed a new Cat Converter, that I didn't have one. Even when I showed it to him he said it wasn't a Cat. I had to get all the paperwork out and show him it was a Walker Platinum wire type that breathed far better than the stock GM piece of junk. I finally wound up telling the guy to put it on the machine, that it will pass. He asked me how I knew that, and I told him that I had already run CA's test on it before I left Nevada, and it passed with flying colors. He finally conceded and hooked it up, and got some of the lowest numbers he had ever seen in a GM 2.8 liter V6. I paid for the certificate. No extras! LOL!! Bunch of crooks!

BTW, How's your 955BE doing. I'm still thinking about the FX-8150 for mine. Hey, I have to do something before I die, right! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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You got to love that about emissions especially in CA, LOL.... They were very anal here in MN but have now lax'd back off thankfully. Your right that aftermarket quality parts are much better then the OEM stuff especially with converters.

I still love the 955BE one of the best deals I've ever got but I would like to get the FX-8150 next as I think it is better than some give it credit for around here and certainly cheaper than an old Intel 2600 which still goes for $280-$300, plus other over priced necessities.

Say if you still want to send your Sceptre monitor out feel free, shipping might be costly so it's up to you.

The best of,
Stevo

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Ha Russ, that sounds about right for CA. Bunch of crazies! lol

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BTW, How's your 955BE doing. I'm still thinking about the FX-8150 for mine.

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Know this wasn't aimed at me specifically but it applies :P

Fantastically well, and I'm a gamer with fairly decent video cards so that's saying something. Have tweaked my OC a bit, but otherwise as nice as the day she was new. Turns out my video cards are still the bottleneck for my favorite games, so it even has some un-tapped power to spare for future upgrades :)

Would have long ago replaced it, but because gaming has such peculiar power requirements, it simply hasn't been necessary yet. On the fence between Sandybridge/Ivybridge and waiting for a better revision of Bulldozer. It has tons of promise and good value, but simply isn't what I'm looking for. A Phenom I -> Phenom II-esque refresh would have me extremely interested.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Not a surprise on the emissions issue as that was a learning period and forced cleanup by the gov. There were definitely some hokey things about the Fiero but like Russ said it was a joy to drive and one other thing I didn't mention is at high speeds you didn't feel like you were going fast, you could be at 100mph and still think you were only going 50mph.

The 2.8L was a good engine but was really under powered for its rating unless you upped it to a 3.2L with other performance upgrades like you touch on. Stock in a Camaro it wouldn't perform as well as you have a heavier car and loose in the drive train as compared to the mid engine design of the Fiero. At least you didn't put it in a Firebird as they were extremely heavy.

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Steveo,

When I moved out here in 2000, I went to get the emissions certified. CA has this crazy deal where they can only charge so much, and it's almost always the top figure. The guy gives me an estimate for all the extras he said I needed to pass, and I said forget it, it passes right now. He says that I needed a new Cat Converter, that I didn't have one. Even when I showed it to him he said it wasn't a Cat. I had to get all the paperwork out and show him it was a Walker Platinum wire type that breathed far better than the stock GM piece of junk. I finally wound up telling the guy to put it on the machine, that it will pass. He asked me how I knew that, and I told him that I had already run CA's test on it before I left Nevada, and it passed with flying colors. He finally conceded and hooked it up, and got some of the lowest numbers he had ever seen in a GM 2.8 liter V6. I paid for the certificate. No extras! LOL!! Bunch of crooks!

BTW, How's your 955BE doing. I'm still thinking about the FX-8150 for mine. Hey, I have to do something before I die, right! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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You got to love that about emissions especially in CA, LOL.... They were very anal here in MN but have now lax'd back off thankfully. Your right that aftermarket quality parts are much better then the OEM stuff especially with converters.

I still love the 955BE one of the best deals I've ever got but I would like to get the FX-8150 next as I think it is better than some give it credit for around here and certainly cheaper than an old Intel 2600 which still goes for $280-$300, plus other over priced necessities.

Say if you still want to send your Sceptre monitor out feel free, shipping might be costly so it's up to you.

The best of,
Stevo

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Stevo,

I would have sent the Sceptre sooner, but having to move twice in less than a month took a lot out of me, and we are still not completely done, although everything is here. I have one speed left! Dead slow! LOL!! We just today finally got most of the shed we built for garden tools and such done. We just have to tar-paper the roof and shingle it and it will be finished. Then we can breath a little bit.

From all I've read about the FX-8150, it's quickly become a very big seller. The i5 2500K, and the i7 2600k are just about the only Sandy bridge chips that big Blue has, selling these days. None of the Ivy Bridge chips are doing very well at all. I was stunned that Ivy Bridge didn't have a bigger turnout on AD when it launched, what with all the hype. Certainly nothing like when the C2D and the 6600 Quad launched. There was hardly anyone one on the building and overclocking threads, for weeks! One thing is for certain, no one is rushing right out to buy them.

Best Regards,
Russ

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Video cards are always a bottle neck with the latest games, it costs a lot of money to stay up to date for gaming.

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At the rate things are going, I would wait for the fire sale! LOL!! Intel's cheapest 6 core is the Core i7-3930K, at $590, almost 3 times more expensive than the FZ-8150 Zambezi. The other two 6 cores are over $1000. Unless you need 4 way SLI/Crossfire for heavy duty gaming, I couldn't see spending almost $600 for the CPU. Add a medium priced MB (which you will need) and you are looking at around $750 for the MB and CPU alone. If you want it for 4 way SLI/Crossfire, you are looking at $340 for an ASUS P8Z77 WS LGA 1155 Intel Z77 motherboard, unless you can run 4 way with two dual video cards? Biostar and MSI had motherboards with 4 PCIe 16x slots, but both were flawed, as some of the slots were too close together to use with two port video cards. Like Steve says, it get's expensive to game at that level.

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Being limited to two PCIe slots, even running at 8x, is a total non-issue, as it's been proven that even running at 4x per GPU has typically less than a 10% performance impact in all but one or two outlier scenarios.

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Knowing that the Phenom II range and 45nm Core 2s were pretty much equivalent (the nomenclature of the Phenom IIs was deliberate - 940/Q9400, 955/Q9550 and so on), and knowing how much of a benefit I saw from upgrading from my Q9550 to the i5 750, and also seeing both from benchmark numbers which you can take or leave, but also from first-hand experience how much faster the Sandy Bridge CPUs are, it surprises me that anyone would prefer AMDs for games. I don't honestly think anyone does though.

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Well yes and no. There are a few particular games that will show a CPU bottleneck long before a graphics bottleneck. Sins of a Solar Empire(fantastic) and Supreme Commander Forged Alliance(fantastic-er, lol) to name a few.

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