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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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16. September 2012 @ 12:05 |
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That's not 'more bandwidth than the line can handle' - that's an unstable analog line.
With DSL the sync speed is only set a fixed upper boundary by the ISP (usually 24Mbps in the case of ADSL2+). What determines the speed you actually receive is the line attenuation and signal to noise ratio. The longer your line is from the exchange, the lower the speed you will end up with. This is a physically automated process and cannot be altered by the ISP.
In the case of a faulty line that's unstable (due to noise/interference, poor wiring and so on) at the speed you end up receiving due to the line length, you will experience DSL dropouts. This is combatted either by having the fault diagnosed and repaired (long-term solution) or by reducing the speed (short-term workaround). The speed reduction is enforced by the ISP, either by their decision or from a manual request from a user, and can be achieved in one of two ways - either by increasing the signal to noise ratio, and therefore forcing the DSL process to sync at a lower speed, or by enforcing an IP profile at their end lower than the maximum sync speed available (the former is usually the better method, and for the record, raising the IP profile above your maximum normal sync speed achieves nothing, as you are still limited by how fast the DSL sync can work given the line distance).
By all means ask the ISP to reinstate the lower speed, but it is not strictly speaking the ISP at fault here, if you're getting dropouts unless the speed is capped, it's a wiring fault somewhere which will likely need an engineer callout, and you should work on that basis.
I remember the disable/enable LAN bug, although i thought that was just with Vista, it might be with Windows 7 too. There is a different bug with Windows 7 that prevents the control service set from enabling for the first 2-5 minutes after boot. (This prevents access to computer/device/disk management, as well as the network and sharing center, but does not prevent use of internet connectivity, as often you can still browse, although the lack of these services can cause crashes with google chrome and skype until the service is available). It's prompting me to want to reformat my PC soon, although I'm hoping to hold off until I can afford to get a bigger SSD - currently looking at the 180GB Intel 520 series.
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16. September 2012 @ 12:34 |
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Well whatever the problem is, having them drop the speed back to 5Mb cured it last time. We are over a mile from town. The technician that has been out here, told me that 5Mb is the absolute max that we can receive. So seeing more than that tells me something is not right. And they are able to correct it.
It should be noted, that I'm not the only one in this area with trouble. They had a huge blackout recently. Me and my mother (separate connections) were unaffected.
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16. September 2012 @ 17:05 |
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That's amazing - the one problem I've never had is internet. Maybe this apple router is the reason. I'm running Cox cable and their cable modem, plus this apple router - the older 8 year old round type. But up in LA I'm running two Time Warner cables, at two different locations near each other, and the two used WRT54G Linksys routers from Amazon on each. Stable. But they don't have the speed we have here with the apple - maybe only 1/10th the speed we have here - and they don't game.
Of course, from time to time, we have to turn off the power strip that has the cable modem and router on it, for 30 seconds, and let everything reset. And once in a while, maybe once every 2 months, the problem turns out to be a required reset of my trailer linksys access point, Wireless-G, which wirelessly connects my trailer LAN to the apple router.
I guess I do have one port left, port 2, if I ever had a nic problem on my gaming rig. What does "as it DoS attacks my internal network" mean?
And Sam, "You can pull off pretty high temperatures and still have a stable system, even if it's overclocked, as long as you do it right, and the hardware isn't faulty." - would you agree that something is suspicious with a sensor that goes from 117 C, near the start of a gaming session, down to -5 C, after several hours, my TMPIN0 as reported by CPUID. That has to be a bad sensor, right? And if so - evidence of a motherboard problem - would you agree?
I can't gripe too much about faulty motherboard, since if it had been rock solid, I would never have been gifted it in 2010, with only 2 weeks usage. So despite its faults, I''ll continue to be appreciative, and just try to nurse it along.
Meantime, those idiots at Sleeping Dogs have taught me the last little karate move, the most powerful which they think has made me superman, and now they've thrown 20 guys at me in an impossible kung fu mission. So I'm either done with the game, because I suspect the plot won't move along until I beat that section, or I'll find an unlimited life cheat, or I'll reduce graphics to try to make my cpu more responsive so the special little move actually works for me like on a console, without my normal PC lag, or I'll see if they'll let me pull a gun in the mission, or all of the above. LOL
By the way, if you haven't heard, one of the most amazing games ever to come to PC is Walking Dead, the game. Steam has it. It's a Tell-Tale publishing story, an RPG, an incredibly well-acted gripping drama, unlike anything I've ever done on the PC. I played section 2 last night, and there are 3 more to come eventually. I'm a big fan of the AMC TV series - downloaded all season one and season two in high def - Miles told me about it two years ago as they were launching the series - but I've never read the book or comic books. For all of you non-gamers, you might like THIS game. Google it and check out the reviews.
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16. September 2012 @ 17:42 |
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I assure you, 90% of my troubles are ISP based! :( Can't wait to be rid of DSL! Unfortunately, Fiber optics is probably decades away for me...
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16. September 2012 @ 19:39 |
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Yeah, I was looking very closely into fiber optics in LA. The phone rep described the service, and it sounded good - we would have had to have paid an installation charge of about $100 to get the full fiber into the house, which I was not averse to doing. But within a few months, AT&T basically more than doubled the cost of the service from where it had been for 5 years, $15, suddenly to 38/mo, claiming the $15 was just a short term special. So we went to cable, which I already had for the other relative about a 1/2 mile away - and it was stable, 3x faster, and rates had not really gone up above $30 in 3 years.
In that town you are in, in Oregon, close to Portland I think you mentioned, probably there is no cable alternative - or is there?
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16. September 2012 @ 19:49 |
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I'm 8 miles from a larger town. I'm actually 180 miles from portland(born and raised). Hermiston (8 miles away) has cable companies. Charter I believe. People speak fairly high of them. And others compare them to comcast. I plan to move to Hermiston in under a year. I'll likely go with the best option at that time. I'm betting money won't be a problem by that time :p
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16. September 2012 @ 20:01 |
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16. September 2012 @ 20:03 |
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Had a work colleague that had a similar vehicle. It was a Fiero, but nothing so exotic.
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16. September 2012 @ 20:03 |
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Well, probably anybody will agree that cable is better than DSL - a lot of the cable is fiber optics, even if not up to the house. So Hermiston and Charter sounds great. Will that add to your commute, or are you expecting a job change and/or promotion?
EDIT: "got my license back." BACK? What'd they take it away for, lol. Congrats on the new hot car, Russ.
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16. September 2012 @ 20:09 |
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Promotion. And if that doesn't happen, I will be still working my second job. But there are contract talks going on, that will significantly increase the wage of people in my position :D Next year is already looking quite good ;)
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16. September 2012 @ 20:28 |
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DSL is a tunnel type protocol so if your modem is not connected directly to a PC you will not be able to connect to it, if there is a switch or router between them. IF you can't connect to a router in front of your modem you must have the wrong IP address or your router is froze up and won't respond, in which you'll need to reboot the router. Although my modem gets messed up I've never not been able to connect to my router behind it but it could cause the router to flake out so maybe that is what causing you headaches.
Speedtest is wrong for multiple reasons one of which Sam touched on but not limited to that.
The big problem with cable vs. DSL is that DSL is implemented over very poor twisted pair phone lines where lose and noise are a big problem. When the phone systems are upgraded to fiber and better switches/routers are used then DSL may perform much better. In fact people that can get 40Mb DSL hookup most likely have that style of connection.
@Rich, That last post was a reasonably short post, what's up with that are you feeling ill? LOL
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16. September 2012 @ 20:32 |
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I'm betting/hoping that my DSL subscription is causing all my... flakiness LOL!
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16. September 2012 @ 22:46 |
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Originally posted by harvardguy:
Well, probably anybody will agree that cable is better than DSL - a lot of the cable is fiber optics, even if not up to the house. So Hermiston and Charter sounds great. Will that add to your commute, or are you expecting a job change and/or promotion?
EDIT: "got my license back." BACK? What'd they take it away for, lol. Congrats on the new hot car, Russ.
harvardguy,
A parking ticket in Jersey City NJ, USA on 01/27/97. Both the car and I migrated west to Nevada 09/03/96. Actually I have the assistant city clerk to thank for finding the answer right in their own records. It took her all of 30 seconds to discover there were two identical 87 Fieros registered on the same day. Mine got tag #ABY-4568, and the other one got tag #ABY-4569, and was registered in the county where the ticket that started all of this for me, was issued! Record expunged, License Probable! :)
Best Regards,
Russ
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16. September 2012 @ 23:33 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Had a work colleague that had a similar vehicle. It was a Fiero, but nothing so exotic.
Oman7,
All 5 speeds had getrag gearboxes, and were only available with the V6 GT and Formula SE models. The basic 6 and 4 got the 4 speed GM. Fun car to drive!
Russ
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17. September 2012 @ 00:15 |
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It's a great car to drive! But you have to be careful... :) I had that exact car but in Dark Red with Silver trim. I had mine tuned up to about 150 mph which was pushing. At 100 mph it felt like you were doing 50-60 mph, sweet ride!
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17. September 2012 @ 16:40 |
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my "friendly" neighbor to the east has 2 fieros, 1 tarped in backyard & 1 in garage for spare parts for 1 in backyard.
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harvardguy
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17. September 2012 @ 21:13 |
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That's crazy that Stevo had the same car that Russ has - 100 mph felt like 50-60. Wow! Not to mention DDP's crazy neighbor with the junkyard dog, who keeps his main fiero under wraps and hasn't driven it in two years, but keeps another one for spare parts just in case he ever leashes the pit bull and actually drives out past the chain link fence.
And I think Miles the animator, actually had a red fiero in college at SCAD in Georgia - I'll have to ask him. That was back in his LOUD rap music days - he had an enormous subwoofer in the back with a huge power amp. LOL
[I finished sleeping dogs and they congratulated me, and invited me to continue to play for accomplishments. I might participate now in some of the absolutely wild races all over Hong Kong, where 50-60 miles an hour feels like 200. The karate was an absolute bit*h during that game - PC lag was nowhere near as responsive as the console walkthroughs. I got through up to mission 39, where death awaited me on 20 attempts. Boring! To finally finish I got a health cheat, from swedish YouTube guy LinGon, who has a nice channel, which carried me past that roadblock, and through the last couple missions, almost to the very end, and just before it turned into machine guns only which was no problem. But the cheat started interfering with the main game engine, causing multiple steam reboots and cache integrity verification, so I tried finishing that last battle the legit way. After a dozen deaths where somehow the game forgot to let me leave the car and walk into the compound with the enormous knife I had just taken from my last assailant (or maybe I dropped it after killing him and forgot to pick it up again - a later YouTube walkthrough showed me that unfortunate mistake) I got the very bright idea of jumping into one of the compound parking lot automobiles, and game experience has taught me that I am quite adept at running over pedestrians. LOL]
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17. September 2012 @ 21:38 |
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harvardguy, it is not 2yrs but at least 15yrs since the car in the backyard was driven there. the wheels are totally exposed to the elements & the car is not on blocks.
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17. September 2012 @ 22:31 |
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Woah! - and I thought I was exaggerating!! You've got to be kidding.
What about the junkyard dog. LOL!
Blaze - if you happen to stop by - some new full-size screenshots up on the other "Official PC Gaming Thread" http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/328/677037#5761484
Jeff, you're gonna laugh. Remember that one time that Sam was testing some stuff, and left his side intake disconnected - his most important fan of all? Things were still okay, but ....
I just opened my side door to connect power to the 750 MB drive that I once-in-a-while clone my 1 TB to, and I discovered the fan splitter disconnected - in other words the last time I put the door on, I forgot to connect the twin phantek 140 intake fans, ie I have been running on 4 intakes, not the normal 6 ever since I finalized crossfire, with HIS #2 on top, which would have been two weeks ago.
Remember last week when the first card was 85 degrees, but still stable? And I said, "My cards always ran cooler than this."
I wonder how my temps will be now. Duhhhhhhh!! I am stooooopid.
Rich
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18. September 2012 @ 11:38 |
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not kidding & what junkyard dog?
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18. September 2012 @ 11:42 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
not kidding & what junkyard dog?
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18. September 2012 @ 11:58 |
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don't have 1 except maybe his wife as she does all the work around the house & he does not work.
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18. September 2012 @ 14:05 |
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So probably buying another second-hand Antec NeoPower Blue 650W. Second generation with Seasonic internals and modular cabling. Kept clean and wasn't loaded much. 95W Phenom II Tri-Core, 5850, 2 HDDs. Still intend on a Seasonic X Series come the holidays, but Antec has been good to me.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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18. September 2012 @ 14:29 |
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I'm not a Antec fan, actually I don't like them, but hey if it works well for you Jeff stay with it as there would be no need to pay the extra for the Seasonic's when you are running perfectly fine with the status quo.
Just my opinion,
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18. September 2012 @ 15:49 |
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Well it has Seasonic internals and is essentially another 620HX so I guess I don't have much issue with it.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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