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28. September 2010 @ 17:11 |
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I tested loads of programs on Win7 here ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/769480/4661854
However i see both sides of Russ's point, just because Win7 is the successor to XP, and that XP is old doesn't mean XP is foul and evil, if stuff works as good as it did when it was new, there's no real reason to ditch it (unless somebody wants to). Hell we have some Windows 2000 servers at work, they've worked perfectly for many years, no need to upgrade just because there's new stuff out there. Of course if a server blows up then we'd probably use something more modern as it's successor, but not necessarily. For instance we toasted a Windows 2000 server at one of the branches the other week, we rebuilt it exactly as it was before, yes we could have used something newer but there was nothing to be gained. In fact it would probably just cause more problems.
I haven't bothered with that Win7/XP virtual mode thingy myself, and i won't be, for me it's easier to just have an XP machine around. But i do see the arguments for using such products too.
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28. September 2010 @ 17:28 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
What video program? I use several on "7" without hitch :/
Oman7,
Avi Muxer, TS Muxer, and Avi Demuxer won't work. Tuneup utilities 2009 is another one. I imagine 2010 would work, but I don't want to have to buy yet another program just because Bill gates dictates that I have to! There is no technical reason that these programs shouldn't run!
Russ
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28. September 2010 @ 17:30 |
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Why would you use TuneUp Utilities in Win7, its whole purpose is to make up for problems in XP that mostly don't exist in 7...
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28. September 2010 @ 17:35 |
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Hmm, I'm afraid in all my tasks, those progies aren't employed by me. And the only muxing and demuxing I do is on my BD machine(also windows 7). Muxing avi's I generally don't do.
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28. September 2010 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Why would you use TuneUp Utilities in Win7, its whole purpose is to make up for problems in XP that mostly don't exist in 7...
Sam,
That's a valid point. All TuneUp Utilities really does is run a fancy version of Disk cleanup! It doesn't remove Trojans or stuff like that. I do need the Muxers and DeMuxers though!
Thanks,
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28. September 2010 @ 17:54 |
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I take it no dice with compatibility mode?
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28. September 2010 @ 17:57 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Hmm, I'm afraid in all my tasks, those progies aren't employed by me. And the only muxing and demuxing I do is on my BD machine(also windows 7). Muxing avi's I generally don't do.
Oman7,
You will sooner or later find that all Avi's aren't created equal, probably the main reason for Gom Player or VLC Player. The far eastern versions will not play on WMP Same thing goes for R5 and MKV, which TS Muxer will handle. Otherwise more often than not you have issues with the surround sound. R5's used to only be in Stereo, but I've been seeing a lot of them with 5.1 sound lately. Well that, and I'm a bit of a perfectionist! ROFLMSOAO!!
Russ
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28. September 2010 @ 17:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I take it no dice with compatibility mode?
Sam,
There is no Compatibility Mode with Win 7 Home Basic.
Russ
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28. September 2010 @ 18:02 |
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You sure? I don't see that mentioned anywhere. Is the program for XP64?
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28. September 2010 @ 18:15 |
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I heard that compatibility mode was for Professional and ultimate...
My mom has Basic, maybe I should confirm this ;)
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28. September 2010 @ 18:34 |
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Well, I could swear I got her home basic. But I typed "winver" and it says its Windows Home Premium. Maybe an update? In any case, her version allows for compatibility trouble shoot...
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28. September 2010 @ 19:37 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by sammorris:
I take it no dice with compatibility mode?
Sam,
There is no Compatibility Mode with Win 7 Home Basic.
Russ
For what it's worth compatibility mode has never helped in getting a program to run on win7 for me.
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28. September 2010 @ 20:19 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
You sure? I don't see that mentioned anywhere. Is the program for XP64?
Sam,
It's Home Basic 32 bit. the Ultimate and Premium have it, not the Home basic.
Russ
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28. September 2010 @ 21:45 |
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No, what I mean is, is the program you're trying to use designed for XP 64?
64-bit programs can't be run in compatibility mode.
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28. September 2010 @ 22:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No, what I mean is, is the program you're trying to use designed for XP 64?
64-bit programs can't be run in compatibility mode.
Sam,
No it's all for 32 bit. I loved the XP 64 bit, but too much stuff I need had no drivers for 64 bit. There were a lot more drivers for it the last time I used it. I'm sure that will continue as time goes by. Plus I've added a lot of new 64 bit drivers since then. There's a lot of Freeware and Shareware for doing particular things with video, that will probably never have 64 bit drivers. I still check from time to time though.
Russ
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28. September 2010 @ 22:08 |
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There's far more drivers for Win7 64-bit though.
It's been my experience that anything that doesn't run on Win7 is either so outdated it could do with being replaced with an up to date version anyway, or if there's no such option, there are plenty of viable alternatives. Only problems I ever encounter are specific games I want to play, in which case, VirtualBox.
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28. September 2010 @ 22:51 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
There's far more drivers for Win7 64-bit though.
It's been my experience that anything that doesn't run on Win7 is either so outdated it could do with being replaced with an up to date version anyway, or if there's no such option, there are plenty of viable alternatives. Only problems I ever encounter are specific games I want to play, in which case, VirtualBox.
Sam,
I'm going to completely wipe the boot drive and reinstall XP and Win 7 in dual boot, when I get the new MB. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with that combo, but first I want to find out how Win 7 repaired itself without being accessed. If I find that it can turn itself on without my knowledge or permission, Win 7 will be history It's already registered to my computer, so when the time does come where I have to use it, I will!
Russ
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29. September 2010 @ 05:01 |
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Been working on a little project. Replacing LED lights in my secondary's case. I didn't realize it was gonna get so involved LOL! I know damn little about soldering. But the following video just helped me a great deal! If you wanna learn basic soldering, this guy knows his stuff. He lays it out for you completely logically, and simplified. Laugh all you like. I haven't done much soldering myself :p
Basic soldering
And this totally blew my mind!
Solder Past
I didn't realize that such technology existed. Never really thought about it :S Sorta makes you wonder though. Are a high percentage of motherboard issues due to Solder paste screw ups. Its certainly a new factor in my mind. I guess I had other ideas on how components were joined with the mobo's ;)
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29. September 2010 @ 12:09 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Been working on a little project. Replacing LED lights in my secondary's case. I didn't realize it was gonna get so involved LOL! I know damn little about soldering. But the following video just helped me a great deal! If you wanna learn basic soldering, this guy knows his stuff. He lays it out for you completely logically, and simplified. Laugh all you like. I haven't done much soldering myself :p
Basic soldering
And this totally blew my mind!
Solder Past
I didn't realize that such technology existed. Never really thought about it :S Sorta makes you wonder though. Are a high percentage of motherboard issues due to Solder paste screw ups. Its certainly a new factor in my mind. I guess I had other ideas on how components were joined with the mobo's ;)
Oman7,
Here's a video of how printed circuit boards are soldered. It's called "Wave Soldering"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXLv7MNjGL0
Russ
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29. September 2010 @ 12:34 |
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29. September 2010 @ 14:18 |
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Just discovered that the LED's are sensitive in a certain way. There are apparently positive and negative terminals on the lights. And it's critical that they are connected accordingly. Not usually so with 12V bulbs. Not sure if the voltage has something to do with this. Wouldn't think so. At least I discovered this BEFORE I hot glued everything back in place. I would have been screaming and yelling LOL!
This is what I've done. Sorry its blurry. When I zoom with my camera, clarity goes out the window LOL! It'll be different in the future. Probably solder, than hot glue. I got lazy.
I was testing them, and they were not lighting up. I thought somehow the use of the solder gun blew them. Much like welding without proper grounding? In any case, I reversed the wiring and all was well. Apparently positive and negative connections are critical. So I'll be wiring them, while the computer is running...
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29. September 2010 @ 14:19 |
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Diode = Current only flows one way. Basic electronics :P
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29. September 2010 @ 14:36 |
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LOL! Whoops! Showing my true colors again :p Nah, there's still much I don't know...
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29. September 2010 @ 15:45 |
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Wow, I feel like I'm back in school today. L-E-D. Light Emitting Diode. I understand the function of a diode. I never thought to look up LED. Just passed it off as a new form of light, I guess. Silly silly LOL!
I just may begin modifying my HAF in the near future. Not sure. Looks like Radioshack.com sells the L-E-D's in bulk too. In the non hot glued fashion :p If newegg does, that would be new to me. I searched around for a while, before purchasing what I did. They certainly should sell them in their basic unused form factor!
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29. September 2010 @ 15:51 |
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Basic LED Principles:
-> LEDs conduct in one direction only. IIRC, the negative pin is the shorter leg.
-> LEDs are non-ohmic, they will drop a fixed voltage unless forced.
-> Typically LEDs drop 2-2.5V and have a typical If of about 20mA. Thus, you need to use a resistance in series with them that causes the appropriate amount of current.
for example:
12V supply
2.5V voltage drop
30mA forward current
12V-2.5V = 9.5V
9.5/30x10^-3 = 316.66Ohms minimum resistance, nearest value would be 330.
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