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25. November 2011 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi all, i remember when i had my ps2 there was a problem where if you watched movie discs in the ps2 it seemed to mess up the laser/motor when it came to playing the ps2 game discs..i'm not sure if it is a difference in speeds that the ps2 laser or motor had to adjust for when alternating between a movie disc or a game disc... so this made me wonder if the PS3 has the same challenge or do PS3 games AND BluRay movies use the same speed of the PS3 laser/motor.. i was contemplating getting a cheap blu ray player just for watching movies in case watching movies in the ps3 would eventually mess up the way the laser would read or spin game discs.. any PS3 users have this experience or is it a non-issue with this next-gen console?
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25. November 2011 @ 12:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PS3s are notorious for bad laser issues, but that is due to Sony's relatively crappy components. As far as I know it has got nothing to do with whether you watch movies on your PS3 or not.

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26. November 2011 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The more you use the laser, the more likely it is to burn out.

A bluray movie uses the laser to read anywhere from 15-50GB in 90-180 minutes.

A game uses the laser to read anywhere from 1GB-10GB once, and then a cutscene-heavy game might read something like 2GB every hour.

What do you think puts more load on the laser?


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30. November 2011 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the feedback guys! I'll be sure not to overdose on BD movies in the ps3, based on what you are saying i think i'll pick up a dedicated BD player strictly for movies because between the movie addicts and the ps3 game addicts in the household it might get a bit hairy with the ps3 as the primary go to device...

PS- Eisherz i'm not so sure its 100% true about Sony crappy components, i have heard the "crappy" comes in to play for all top brands of electronics when the facility running the particular production order is one of the low cost quality dodgers out of china that take short cuts...i know of one person a couple years back who spoke of seeing a production run of dvd players where the same parts were being put in but the faceplates and housing were being slapped on to suggest they were different brands
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1. December 2011 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dcangel:
Thanks for the feedback guys! I'll be sure not to overdose on BD movies in the ps3, based on what you are saying i think i'll pick up a dedicated BD player strictly for movies because between the movie addicts and the ps3 game addicts in the household it might get a bit hairy with the ps3 as the primary go to device...

PS- Eisherz i'm not so sure its 100% true about Sony crappy components, i have heard the "crappy" comes in to play for all top brands of electronics when the facility running the particular production order is one of the low cost quality dodgers out of china that take short cuts...i know of one person a couple years back who spoke of seeing a production run of dvd players where the same parts were being put in but the faceplates and housing were being slapped on to suggest they were different brands
It depends on the brand. I know Plextor drives were once really good, and they got a great reputation because of it...then they started buying cheap drives from other companies, installing their own faceplates, changing the firmwares, and charging twice as much...now they are a joke.

Obviously large production can lead to lower quality parts since a $1 savings per unit is a lot when you are making 10,000,000 units...but not everyone does this, or at least, not everyone does it in a way that causes problems. Sometimes it really doesn't matter if you use the cheaper parts in a certain area because the cheap parts are still overkill; other times the good parts really are needed and anything else will lead to early failure or even a fire.

A good example can be found in the Dell economy desktops. They decided to save money by using parts that just barely met specs. They started using cheaper capacitors, cheaper resistors, and cheaper connectors. The connectors held up OK so long as people were not plugging and unplugging things very often, so only the front USB ports suffered from this change. The resistors held up just fine, and the capacitors led to countless dead systems because they were using 18V capacitors on 12V circuits (you always have to use at least 150% capacitors...and since capacitors vary by a good 25% on cheap parts, some of these 18V capacitors were only 13.5V capacitors). The ultimate result was that they spent more on replacements and recalls than they saved, and lost a ton of customers in the process.


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1. December 2011 @ 23:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It depends on the brand. I know Plextor drives were once really good, and they got a great reputation because of it...

yep youre right, i remember i was a fan of plextor quality now most brands the names dont really matter- i remember when i used to buy DVD+r's i think it was this forum that provided some good info i never knew about reading the serial number on the inner circle of the disc to know if you have a batch that was produced by a quality manufacturer (less coasters longer reliability storage blanks) instead of just relying on the label names (e.g verbatim).. well i just hope sony remains honorable and keeps using the quality components where they matter for performance and reliability and substitute in the cheap parts for the strictly cosmetic stuff

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2. December 2011 @ 02:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dcangel:
It depends on the brand. I know Plextor drives were once really good, and they got a great reputation because of it...

yep youre right, i remember i was a fan of plextor quality now most brands the names dont really matter- i remember when i used to buy DVD+r's i think it was this forum that provided some good info i never knew about reading the serial number on the inner circle of the disc to know if you have a batch that was produced by a quality manufacturer (less coasters longer reliability storage blanks) instead of just relying on the label names (e.g verbatim).. well i just hope sony remains honorable and keeps using the quality components where they matter for performance and reliability and substitute in the cheap parts for the strictly cosmetic stuff
Keeps using quality components? You really haven't been paying attention, have you?


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