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Spyder27
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13. August 2004 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hope you guys can help me.
I've just bought a Pioneer 108, tempted by the dual layer capabilities. Installed it and detected fine in XP Pro SP1, however.....
The drive shows up in Nero (latest version 6.3.1.20) and I've even updated to the latest firmware (1.06) but no disks are detected in the drive. I have tried CD, DVD-Rom, original DVD movies, DVD movie copies, etc.
The current setup is ABit IS7 borad running 2 SATA drives (not Raid) Pioneer set as Master on IDE 1 and my Sony CDRW as Master on IDE 2. I have tried the drives in all combinations but all to no avail. I have left the Pioneer as Master on IDE 1 because it utilises ATA66 and shows up fine in Device manager which says it is using UDMA Mode 4. I have set the region to region 2. I have disabled AnyDVD and enabled it. Now I'm not a novice to DVD Writers this is now my 3rd and I've had no problems (apart from the usual) until now.
Is it something to do with the drive using ATA66? Have I missed something obvious? It's a real pain not to be able to try the drive out and see what it's like.
Any ideas?
Cheers

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13. August 2004 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I received my 108 today, it came with no firmware, so which firmware are you using? Mine will play dvds, but will not burn. This is no doubt as the firmware is not installed. I've been to the Pioneer website- no firmware, only for 107s etc. I've put my Sony DRU510a back in for now, until I locate the firmware for my Pioneer. I suspect you do not have the correct firmware installed, but I am probably wrong!

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Spyder27
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13. August 2004 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is what makes it even stranger, it came with 1.04 on it and I updated the firmware fine to 1.06 so how come everything sees it but it can't see disks.
Just tried it in my Win2k3 Server PC and same there so looks like a faulty drive. Back it goes
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14. August 2004 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think the firmware you are using is correct, I have looked on the Pioneer website & there are no firmware downloads for the 108. It also says that the burner is not properly available until September. There are a few outlets where you can get them though. I guess this is for the people who can write their own progs for it. I'm only hazarding a guess but I think you would be premature to send it back. I would wait until Pioneer release some firmware for it. Even then the 1st firmware will probably updated quickly as issues are sorted out, conflicts etc! I do think that this burner is the way to go though, Pioneer have a very good track record for quality products & more importantly support. Everyone I know rates the 107, I guess the 108 will follow in its footsteps. This is probably because the 108 is an improved 107!

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14. August 2004 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The dvr107 was made available last week and is an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) version which is intended for manufacturers to install in their machines. The retail version the DVR-A08XL won?t be made available till September which includes a honeycomb chassis to reduce vibration from the drive mechanism, a funky front bezel and software.
Below is a link to download the firmware update (rev.1.06) for the dvr108.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/drive/568

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14. August 2004 @ 15:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I stand corrected! I have just got my drivers for my 108 as per SparkyNis'instructions. MARVELLOUS! SparkyNi you are a star!

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14. August 2004 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will Alcohol 120% work with Dual layer?

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15. August 2004 @ 03:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fitted my drivers, works a treat, a lot quicker to read than my DRU510a. MARVELLOUS!!

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SparkeyNi
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15. August 2004 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Pulsar

Checked out alcohol's forum as regards to dual layer burning, according to an admin it won't be supported until the next version release.
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15. August 2004 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for that, My name in Alcohols' forum is Max-Burn! I prefer it to Nero on some burns, but Nero does have its' advantages. It's always nice to have lots of options available to one!

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15. August 2004 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem, although you obviously knew that already as it was your post (max-burn) that I got the info off. I only use Nero for audio wheni want to back up my movies i use clone dvd and any dvd, hasn't failed me yet.
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15. August 2004 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I love my AnyDvd & DVD43 too! I haven't had a failure in ages. I use Nero for music & some DVDs. It really depends on my mood!

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18. August 2004 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Pulsar,

I just bought a pioneer 108 a few days ago and I'm having the same problem you described earlier. It plays DVDs but it doesn't recognise DVD-Rs. Everytime I try to burn a dvd, Nero says 'this is not a writable dvd, please insert a writable dvd'.

I've upgraded the firmware as SparkyNi instructed but it's still the same. I'm quite new to dvd burning and I'm not sure if I've missed anything. I've tried it with Datasafe, Datawrite grey and Infinity DVD-Rs.

I fitted the drive to an external casing to use with my laptop and I'm very disappointed because I spent 80 pounds for it.

Please help. I would really appreciate it if anyone can tell me what's wrong.

A great thank you for any help.

Please help.
SparkeyNi
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18. August 2004 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try setting up your drive internally in another system and see if it does the same thing, it may be a faulty drive or the external casing. Also you never specified what version of Nero you are using as upgrading to the newest version (ver 6.3.1.20) may help.
http://www.ahead.de/en/nero-up.php

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Spyder27
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19. August 2004 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well replacement drive arrived today, fitted and working like a dream. So quiet you wouldn't know it was running.
Now just got to wait for the price of D/L disks to come down in price
CCEncoder
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20. August 2004 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I heard a lot about DL recorder and DL media? who are they? what is their diference between SL I think? what are its uses?
regs4
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24. August 2004 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you know there is another firmware upgrade at the Pioneer website? V1.10
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24. August 2004 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dl = duel layer = ~8.5 gig dvd+r disc
sl = single layer = 4.37 gig dvd+-r disc




V9 PS2, flip top, SMD, DVDLoader
Pioneer 107, ritek g05
DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter, Nero
joxodoxo
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26. August 2004 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just installed DVR 108 and my puter does not even see it. I run Win XP Pro. Any ideas? ??
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26. August 2004 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
 Wow ... the DVR-108 is only $98 delivered from NewEgg.com  no excuses, I've gotta get one!

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regs4
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26. August 2004 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The DVR-108 burns great with Nero but I'm having issues with the sound on the CD
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27. August 2004 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Just got the pioneer 108, installed drive + firmware and works perfectly. Latest firmware is 1.10 from the pioneer website.
http://pioneer.co.uk/uk/support_software.jsp?category=support/software#fdvdwriter

If you have trouble detecting drive make sure you have set the master/slave switch correctly dufus's! Its located at the back of the drive and has letter MA-master + SL-slave. 2 pins should be covered vertically on wanted selection.

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regs4
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27. August 2004 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got cd sound when I changed DMA to PIO but then DVD sound was screwed up. Firmware Problem I bet.
CMaire
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5. September 2004 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have many problems with my 108 ... I ve been able to install the Firmware 1.06 but when I try to install 1.1 it keeps saying "available target is not found" ...
When I try to watch a DVD I can see the movie, I can hear the sounds of the menus but when the sound disappear when it is the movie itself. I tried with 2 different DVD and I have the same problem on both.
I m really frustrated !
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5. September 2004 @ 09:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm getting a replacement this week and I'll be running Win DVD 6 Platinum. We'll see.
 
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