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mystiske
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28. June 2005 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think the upnp setting worked... now i have to power cycle my modem occasionally... but it's better than it was... still a bit frustrated...
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MJSS
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1. July 2005 @ 02:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BigMac, I have a question.
I set up my BitTornado like you said, 80% of max upload speed and everything. I set my setting on Cable/fast. Port forward and everything is just fine (6881-6899 if i'm not mistake.) My problem is, I got the downloading speed around 130-140 kB/s but just for a short amount of time then it decreases to 25-30 kB/s. Later, it increases back to 130 and down to 30 again; and it happens repeatedly. I know this is not a major problem, but I would like to know what caused it to happen and how to fix it. Thanks alot.

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kizaking
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5. July 2005 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its not your download speed thats gonig slow its the other peoples upload speeds are slow. The more seeds and peers it has the faster it will go because your downlaodin of lots of people.
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5. July 2005 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
> I set up my BitTornado like you said, 80% of max upload speed and
> everything. I set my setting on Cable/fast. Port forward and
> everything is just fine (6881-6899 if i'm not mistake.) My problem
> is, I got the downloading speed around 130-140 kB/s but just for a
> short amount of time then it decreases to 25-30 kB/s. Later, it
> increases back to 130 and down to 30 again; and it happens
> repeatedly. I know this is not a major problem, but I would like
> to know what caused it to happen and how to fix it. Thanks alot.

MJSS, sounds to me like you've done your homework.

130 KB/s = 1 Mbps or 1000 Kbps which is 130 Bytes x 8 = 1040 bits, or 1040 Kbps (bits uses the small letter b, Bytes the large letter B). You can't complain about 1 Mbps.

However your swing down to 30 is not too hot. Let me tell you I have noticed swings down and then back up on my downloads too occasionally. I can't explain the drastic downturn, a little bit would be natural. But as someone explained, you upload speed you see is really not true speed, it is combining other's uploads and their speeds. Whatever their up speed is giving out and that is divided too. Not being an expert, perhaps (???) a couple of your core of uploaders leaves the circle, a seed or two leaves, or maybe you caught up to some peers.. Also I beleive the default setting wil discard anyone uploading to you that gives you a bad packet.

Setting to cable fast or cable slow doesn't matter - it is what setting you change the two numbers there to as to how you will be affected. Those are just "suggestions". So me, I tick cable/dsl/fast, and it says 40 KB/s upload speed and 6 connections. Even though I now have a 400 Kbps upload speed told me by Comcast, I tick the number 40 (upload speed) down to tmumber 35 (35 KB/s), which is less than 80% (you might want to try 75% too). This works best for me, and as you know cable speeds can vary depending on how many cable customers in your area there are. The max uploads at the 6 setting works OK for me. I've tried 7 and 8, seems 6 is good or even 5. If you chose DSL/cable/slow you would notice max uploads as 4 by default.

I also have a Usenet connection through astraweb ($25 for 65 gigs) and using News Rover, the best high speed news reader there is (RAR built in, plus geeat filters), I use 8 or 9 connections here - don't know what all it really means, but downloads in Usenet are over 4000 Kbps, my max (but of course I am paying for my Usenet access, not my torrents access).

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org

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Tcrownz
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30. July 2005 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, can anyone help me setting up my BitTornado, or any other Bittorrent Client?
I have a cable connection of 300 kb/s with no firewall or router, and I´m using windows xp SP2 with the firewall turned off and Norton 2005. The max speed I get is 12 kb/s, and the average is on 5kb/s!!! I´ve tryed BitLord, BitComet, Azureus and now Bit Tornado, but all of them seems to download in the same speed.
When I download directly from websites, the average speed goes to 35kb/s.
Tkx
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30. July 2005 @ 13:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tcrownz,

You said 300 kb/s. A small letter b indicates bits. As in 300 Kbps. Torrent programd talk in Bytes. As in 50 KB/s = 400 Kbps (8 bits to one byte).

If you indeed have a 300 kbps download speed, you are pretty slow there. If you have 300 KB/s not 300 Kb/s (Kb/s usually written 300 kbps), 300 KB/s = x 8 = 2400 kbps (2.4 Mbps). So if you have 2400 kbps you have fast DSL speed, which is OK.

Important - Torrent programs depend on your uploads as you are file-sharing. You MUST upload well to be able to download well, and you must tweak the settings to get maximum speed, and I'll tell you what to try once you tell me your speeds...

So, again, tell me your real upload speed and your real download speed, using the proper kbps (bits) or in KB/s (Bytes), reported to you by your ISP. Also go to dslreports.com and run a few tests too. Tell me thoose results too (up and down speeds in kbps). Your speed is not always what the ISP says you have.

Also, are you getting a green light in BitTornado or is it yellow, and do you let it go for 15 minutes to see if the speed increases?

---------- you wrote:

Hi, can anyone help me setting up my BitTornado, or any other Bittorrent Client?
I have a cable connection of 300 kb/s with no firewall or router, and I´m using windows xp SP2 with the firewall turned off and Norton 2005. The max speed I get is 12 kb/s, and the average is on 5kb/s!!! I´ve tryed BitLord, BitComet, Azureus and now Bit Tornado, but all of them seems to download in the same speed.
When I download directly from websites, the average speed goes to 35kb/s.
Tkx

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org

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doodlleus
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8. August 2005 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey im sure ure all getting sick and tired of helpin poor shmo's like me but a little help here would be greatly appreciated cos im at my wits end.
i have bit tornado and am connected to 2mb ntl internet via a belkin gateway router. i have forwarded ports 6881-6889 on my router AND on my win xp firewall. i have tried port triggering on my router. i have power cycled my router and modem ive turned bit tornado off and on, changed the port range changed the max peer setting everything that i can think of but for the love of jimmy that bloody light stays yellow and i get 20kbps if im lucky. now any budding genious' out there who happen to be sitting under an apple tree thing anout e=mc2 and wish to help me i would be very greatful and a big turkey will be coming your way
doodlleus
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8. August 2005 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey im sure ure all getting sick and tired of helpin poor shmo's like me but a little help here would be greatly appreciated cos im at my wits end.
i have bit tornado and am connected to 2mb ntl internet via a belkin gateway router. i have forwarded ports 6881-6889 on my router AND on my win xp firewall. i have tried port triggering on my router. i have power cycled my router and modem ive turned bit tornado off and on, changed the port range changed the max peer setting everything that i can think of but for the love of jimmy that bloody light stays yellow and i get 20kbps if im lucky. now any budding genious' out there who happen to be sitting under an apple tree thing anout e=mc2 and wish to help me i would be very greatful and a big turkey will be coming your way
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8. August 2005 @ 14:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First of all, you mean 20 Kb (capital K), and you have to explain what is your cable/dsl speed before people can help you.

Do not use ports 6881, etc because most trackers and isps block those ports or do not allow traffic through, try ports over 40000.

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doodlleus
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8. August 2005 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have an ntl 2mb connection with 240 downstream approx and 22 upstream approx. i tried what you said and used 40000 but to no avail :/
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8. August 2005 @ 17:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, thanks for the info dood, well, then i really dont know how to help w/ bit tornado then. I use bitcomet .59 now, and with a 1150 Kb down and 115 up, i was having problems with large downloads (500mb+), they would only go to like 30-50 max. I was so frustrated becuase i couldnt even access my router to use portfowarding that i took out the router and my downloads are as i type, 220Kb down, 55Kb up on a 1.36 gb file. With this new information i can tell you that portforwarding should work, and remember to upload at least 75% of your upload (about 16 in your case) and if using bit comet (i would recommend it) to listen to a port within the range of your portforwarding.

narutoXD
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14. August 2005 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all right i have read all of the comments from all of u guys but i still can't figure out a way to increase my dl rate

i have done the following
>i have tryed useing differnt settings
>i have changed my port range like a billion times nothing works
>i have changed my max upload bull shit
>i have configured my other setting like max seed or peers can't remember

i have no router can SOMEBODY HELP ME???????? i would deeply apreciate it thanks ^_^

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14. August 2005 @ 21:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NarutoXD,

Please go to http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and post your upload and download spped and we will continue from there.

Remember also that if their is only one seed on the torrent you are downlaoding and he is uploading on 5KB/s then you can only upload 5 k per second.


narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,

all right i have used the speed test and my results were the following
>Download speed 29 kbps (3.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
>Upload speed 16 kbps (2 KB/sec transfer rate)

i really hope u can fix this problem

narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well...There is no problem to fix, you obviously have dial up, and your download speed will not be more than 6 KB/s, ever.

In comparison my
Download speed is 9100 kbps (1110 KB/s)
Upload Speed is 912 kbp/s (115 KB/s)

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narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,

my internet is not a dial up it is ROGERS Yahoo Hi- Speed Internet
i naver have to connect like a dial up like 3 web i might have a virus that might be slowing down my dl rate

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15. August 2005 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,

right now my dl rate is in the 12s i forgot to mension that in my 1st post, my dl sometimes goes 44 dl rate ,in the 30s

narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well do you have rogers yahoo hi-speed extreme, express, lite or ultra lite, because ultra lite is just a little better than dial up (about 12 KB/s).

PS. What do you mean by 44 dl? is that in kbps or KBPS?

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narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,

well i really don't know if u can tell how to find out if i have extreme for example i would really apreciate it

all right i deleted my internet cookies and some other junk and took a re-test and my dl is 170 kbps (21.3 KB/sec
4 kbps (0.5KB/sec

my dl increased well but my upload is not high

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DVDBack23,

well i really don't know if u can tell how to find out if i have extreme for example i would really apreciate it

all right i deleted my internet cookies and some other junk and took a re-test and my dl is 170 kbps (21.3 KB/sec
4 kbps (0.5KB/sec

my dl increased well but my upload is not high

narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,

well i really don't know if u can tell how to find out if i have extreme for example i would really apreciate it

all right i deleted my internet cookies and some other junk and took a re-test and my dl is 170 kbps (21.3 KB/sec
4 kbps (0.5KB/sec

my dl increased well but my upload is not high
and my 44 dl thing is kbps

narutoXD
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15. August 2005 @ 13:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Naruto, I have found your problem. AS you may have read, downloading speed using bit comet, tornado, azareus, etc is based a lot on how much you upload. Unforrtunately you cannot upload a lot so therefore your download speed will be low, no matter what else you do.

Im sorry I dont know how to fix upload speed, im guessing that is a firewall problem though.

biggermac
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15. August 2005 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVDBack23,
> well i really don't know if u can tell how to find out if i have
> extreme for example i would really apreciate it
> all right i deleted my internet cookies and some other junk and
> took a re-test and my dl is 170 kbps (21.3 KB/sec 4 kbps (0.5KB/sec
> my dl increased well but my upload is not high
> and my 44 dl thing is kbps

1st, make sure you understand the difference between what your ISP tells you your speed is in Kbps (bits) and what torrent programs say KB/s (bytes). it takes in 8 Kbps to = 1 KB/s. It isn't the slash things - it is a capital B for Bytes vs a small b for bits. So make sure you know what it what when reporting speeds. It can be confusing, but you must be accurate so people understand..
( from here click the link 'modem speeds unconfused for you' ) http://www.kicknet.net/news&views.html

You know, when you watch on TV their commercial for getting DirecWay Internet via satellite, the lady keeps saying "super fast". Then you go to their website and actually try and read a page of theirs that says what their speed actually is.. Can't find it. Because there is no law governing words, they think because it is 5 times faster download and about the same upload speed as friggin dial-up, they get to call it "super fast".

Here is the deal - the whole torrent thing, no matter what program you use (I use BitTornado), they follow the same guideline - you must upload well to be able to download well. If your upload speed is a lousy 56 kbps like dial-up speed (7.1 KB/s) I don't care what you download speed is, you ain't going to get much download speed. You should probably have 250 Kbps upload speed or more to get good speed going.. Maybe 125 Kbps will do something, but you'll probably be downloading all day for one good sized torrent.

If you are downloading 170 kbps, this is almost an insult to the words 'broadband', 'ultra', hi-speed' or 'extreme'. This sounds like Australia... Maybe you should forget it if you are, I don't think the continent has the capability to go faster.. With Comcast cable I get 400 kbps up and 4000 down though actual tests are a little off, you get the idea. I also pay a relative's DSL with SBC/Yahoo and it is their higher speed account at the same speed I just mentioned for my cable (I think)..

But if you are mis-interpreting KB/s for kbps, then 170 x 8 = something like 1200 kbps (1.2 Mbps), and it is tolerable as broadband (most torrent downloads download less or at this even with good upload and download numbers, a few are over 2000 kbps (2 Mbps) if you have the capability. But I repeat - upload speed important too - it has to be set just right to get the optimal speed you are capable of and the torrent and network allows for.

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
narutoXD
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DVDBack23,

what are ur settings for your firewall is it on or low security or is it off,i have windows firewall and my setting is on what is yours

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15. August 2005 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Biggermac,
please read my posts and youll see i know exactly the difference between bits and bytes, you quoted one of Naruto's posts. Regardless i have explained to him that he has a very low upload speed (.5 KB/s) and therefore cannot download at a high rate as you have expalined. Iam gueesing that he has Rogers Hi-Speed Ultra Light which is only 128kbps, twice the speed of dial up but still very slow.

Naruto,
I do not use windows firewall, i have mcafee, but my mcafee is on tight security but i allow full acess to the bit comet program when downloading. To see if the firewall is your problem, turn it off, and do the speedtest. remember to use the city closest to yours when using the speed test for the most accurate results.

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