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Nick2
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5. March 2005 @ 09:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SpudNuts

Yes I applied the latest patch, which took care of a problem I was having with trying to split files. They would get to 60% and suddenly lock up. I would then have to unplug the machine and would lose the video file. The patch took care of that. The other problems started right after. Also, a new problem arose yesterday. When looking at my video thumbnails of all the video clips I had saved to the HDD, I saw that all of the thumbnails were black, there was no image in them. The only one that had an image was the video I had recorded just before. I had about 6 pages of videos, and the goddamn recorder lost all of them. They were all blank. Luckily almost all of them had already been burned to DVD so I only lost a few, but I liked to keep some of my favorite shows on the HDD for quick viewing. Now I know to burn them to DVD as soon as possible before the machine "loses" them again.

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5. March 2005 @ 10:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got the iLO today and I have to say that I am very happy with it. I have not had a chance to record a TV show or DVD to the HDD or vice versa yet, but so far so good. I upgraded the firmware as soon as I got it all hooked up and it is running great.

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SpudNuts
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5. March 2005 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nick2,

I havn't lost anything but the thumbnail issue was fixed with the latest patch. All you have to do is FF (While in "Edit") to a scene you like for a thumbnail and change it before you burn. I did hear that you should burn all your images prior to applying a firmware patch, i've read a few post that complained about loosing saved files after it's upgraded (That's pretty poor engineering).

I havn't run into any of the problems that you mentioned, I suggest having it replaced. I'm sure, as pissed as you sound, you probably will go for something else. Like I said, I looked into almost every DVD recorder before I bought my ILO and the problems with the others out weighed the ILO's problems (After a firmware upgrade of course) and so does their price.

As of right now, I only have 2 complaints.

Audio from the front inputs is attenuated quite a bit and playback needs to be played at a very high volume.
Color tint problem when viewing a scene in low lighting, most scenes with low light look black and white and light green and orange blotches show up on objects that are hit with alittle light. Both of these problems have been emailed to ILO's Customer Support and I did get a reply that their R&D is working the issues.

I don't work for Walmart or anything like that, I was really hesitant to buy anything electronic from Walmart. You gotta do what you feel is best for you, that's all I can say.
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5. March 2005 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
RAPR & ydkjman Buzz using front conections on HR04

ON an other site, guitarman, felt that the Buzz was coming from the ribbon cable that leads from the main board to the output jacks. The cable goes right throuh the front panel by the display which is not LCD. His opinion was that that the buzz was being picked up by the front input jacks from the display. Again not LCD. After looking at my HR04 I would agree with his assessment. The ribbon pass through on the front panel could be a problem but I think a light metal grounded shield could fix the buzz problem.

Herb
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5. March 2005 @ 23:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
edge67 Sony disk problem

The new sony copy protection is a problem for many players ( and TV's ) not only ilo. An example is that many TV's would have a bent or folded over settion at the top of the screen. My Sony did, my Sanyo didn't. this was caused by the copy potection on many of the copy protected VHS tapes. DVD does not (seem) to have this problem. The new Sony copy protection is causing a lot of problems not only with ilo. Seems that Sony is attempting to copy protect to the point that a disk will not play PROPERLY on most units and than blame everyone else.You can do the same to a PC with all the protection software and blame problems on a virus.
Nick2
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6. March 2005 @ 17:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SpudNuts wrote:"Nick2,

I havn't lost anything but the thumbnail issue was fixed with the latest patch. All you have to do is FF (While in "Edit") to a scene you like for a thumbnail and change it before you burn."

Yes, I understand about FF while in Edit mode, that's how I've been setting my thumbnails. Usually I wait and stop the video when the main title appears. Problem I was trying to explain was that after going through all my videos that I had elected to keep on the hard drive and setting the thumbnails to where I wanted them, I turned on the machine one day and found that all the thumbnails had turned solid black. Then when I tried to play the videos I found that the files were empty. The ILO had lost them all. Luckily for me my usual procrastination hadn't yet taken hold and most of the videos had already been burned to DVD so I didn't actually lose much. It just pissed me the hell off. I fired off an abusive email to ILO and have yet to get a response. Maybe denegrating their products and questioning the marital status of the parents of their engineers at the time of their birth didn't endear me to customer service. Go figure.

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7. March 2005 @ 07:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a new one for anybody. The manual for a dvdrh04 states you can save your mp3's and jpeg's to the HDD and play them back from the browser just like you can from the DVD disk drive. How do you get the mp3's or jpegs to the hard drive. The copy function only works for video titles. I've tried the help line but they don't have a clue how to do this.
Nick2
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7. March 2005 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
are trying to copy your mp3s and jpegs from a dvd or from a cdr?

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7. March 2005 @ 10:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've tried both. DVD disks with mp3's and CDr with mp3's. I can play them but I can't transfer them to the hard drive. The only way I know of to try to transfer is by using the copy command and everytime I try that the unit says to change disk.
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7. March 2005 @ 13:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LCSHG Have you come up with any thing that is best to use to get this sheilding to work ?
ande1352
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7. March 2005 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sony copy protection problem is now fixed by firmware. Download the new firmware here:

http://www.ss3f.com/ilo/
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7. March 2005 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The new ILO firmware WMJA1193.DS3 is up on the ILO website and also the MV/LP version
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7. March 2005 @ 13:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just curious, will this version overwrite the hack already installed by loading the non-hack rev 2 version?
Gtrman
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7. March 2005 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ray_Ray,

New firmware will always overwrite the old. If you want the hacks, you will need to download the hacked version. It is posted on my ILO Download page. Look for 1193 RevB MV/LP Hacked.

Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo

ILO DVDRHD04
Pioneer DVR-420H-S
Magnavox Moxi 80gig DVR
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7. March 2005 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the response gtrman!
taslomk
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7. March 2005 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now after downloading the update file for my DVDRHD04 and upgrading the systgem, audio cd's that were working before the upgrade no longer work. This same thing happened on my first unit that I took back to Walmart and exchanged for this unit. I'm starting to think these units are the biggest hunks of crap on the face of the earth!
Gtrman
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7. March 2005 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
taslomk,

What firmware version was the recorder before doing the update??

Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo

ILO DVDRHD04
Pioneer DVR-420H-S
Magnavox Moxi 80gig DVR
taslomk
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7. March 2005 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know. I didn't know how to tell. The factory support said to try it and now I have this. I just bought it a few days ago from Walmart
taslomk
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8. March 2005 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting thing here...The factory has instructed me to go back to Walmart and exchange this unit for a third one. Then I am suppose to try copying MP3 disk files to the hard drive. If this doesn't work they said not to do the firmware upgrade. (is there another firmware out there loading in factory machines that is not available to download?) How do you tell what the current firmware version is?
Gtrman
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8. March 2005 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you go to the setup page, you will see the serial number. It will look like this:
xxxx-xxxx-0185-xxxx

The third set of numbers is the firmware version.
0185=1185
0191=1191
0193=1193

One of the issues, I think between 1191 and 1193, is that audio CD's quit working. If you are using the ILO to play your CD's, you might wat to use 1185 or 1191.

Be warned that 1185 and 1191 have a nasty bug. If you are trying to split the recordings, it could freeze during the split and you wil lose the recording in the process.

I would suggest updating to 1193 RevB and playing your CD's on something else.

Note that if you use a firmware update that breaks something that was working before, you can always reflash it with an older firmware version.

Also, as far as I know, the ability to copy MP3's, jpg's or any other supported file from CD to the HDD has never worked right, even though it says you can in the manual. Another discrepency in the manual is that the HD04 is suppose to have a 3-hour LP mode, which has not been available on any version of the HD04 until the firmware was hacked for it.

If you get a new one, try what the ILO support sid. Try copying MP3 or JPG's to the HDD and also try and play a CD on it. If they work, do the upgrade and test again. If they quit working, just flash the recorder back to the firmware that did work. Chances are your recorder is going to have 1185 or newer out of the box and everything from 1193 RevB to 1185 is available on my site for downloading, both official and hacked versions.

I hope it works for you.

Guitarman
ILO DVDR04/HD04 Firmware Download Page
http://www.ss3f.com/ilo

ILO DVDRHD04
Pioneer DVR-420H-S
Magnavox Moxi 80gig DVR

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taslomk
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8. March 2005 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Guitarman.. going back to 1191 brought back the audio cd playback. You a way smarter than the morons at liteon (ilo). Now they tell me that the manual is wrong and that the unit cannot save mp3's or jpeg's to the hard drive, even though one guy (Will) told me he did it before. So be aware everyone, the unit is new and still under development with us being their beta testers. At least that's the way it appears. I still like the box it just pisses me off that it won't do what was advertised. If this function would never had been printed I would have accepted the unit just as is but I like to test every feature they say is available. Thanks again. Hopefully ILO will fix 1193 to keep the audio cds playing. They at least know about it now with all the bitching I did with them.

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dayturner
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8. March 2005 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, obviously, the problems with the ILO are in the software not the mechanicals. It appears to me that the software is very fragile and easily corrupted by tweaking here or revising there. Some people seem to have differnt problems following some firmware updates. It is too bad we can't just have a refresh disc so that when stuff gets screwed up enough, we could at least reformat and go back to square one to start all over. Sounds like these things are somewhat difficult to get unscrewed up. Also seems a lot easier and cheaper than taking it back to Walmart to get another one.

The Old One

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philli
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8. March 2005 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello. I am blind, and have an ilo dvd recorder with hd. Is there a way to somehow hack the firmware to use pre-recorded voice prompts for the menus such as the setup, timer and edit menus? Will someone please look in to this? Perhaps I will suggest this to Ilo if it can be done. I'm not sure it would get done from how I've heard people talk on here. I might be waiting until coconuts mygrate. lol
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8. March 2005 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Remote control just sends signal to the unit for what it needs to do. So a hack would not be needed for this. Check into a voice activated remote control. A good one should do what you need but may be expensive.

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8. March 2005 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't want to have to buy another remote. I'm just wondering if this is even possible.
 
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