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ddp
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9. December 2004 @ 14:01 |
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possiblity agp is not enabled in bios, so check in bios. also to confirm if you have agp slot by looking at motherboard & find a brown slot connector near the cpu about same length as the white pci slots but set back further from back of case
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uponthis
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25. December 2004 @ 15:50 |
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On Sims 2, i have also the same problem with it being slow and choppy and freezing on movements while playing the game. I downloaded the PC Wizard but it closes on me. Intergrated 64Mb 3D Video Accelerator is what i have in my machine. Does this need to be replace with a more up to date video card that is better suited to handle this game?
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ddp
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25. December 2004 @ 17:28 |
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you only have 192meg left once you take out 64meg from 256meg. do you have an agp slot on motherboard. what version of directx are you using
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uponthis
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25. December 2004 @ 20:38 |
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The recent version of DirectX, i'm not sure of. How would i be able to find out on my pc what i have?
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uponthis
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25. December 2004 @ 20:41 |
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The apg slot your talking about, i opened up my pc case and i seen a brown colored slot (blowing out the dust). Nothing was in the slot though.
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uponthis
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25. December 2004 @ 21:24 |
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i went ahead and went to msn page for the lastest DirectX update. Still the game runs slow at times and freezes. Any recommendations on what kinda video card i should get to make this run smoother?
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indienemo
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26. December 2004 @ 00:37 |
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get a 9800SE for £75, then use w1zzards soft mod to make it a 9800 Pr0o.
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ddp
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26. December 2004 @ 06:26 |
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the agp slot was it close to cpu, about same length as pci but set back from back of case further than pci
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Divinus
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26. December 2004 @ 07:23 |
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The brown slot is definitely your AGP slot. I've never seen a brown PCI slot in my life and I've worked on some pretty old junkers.
The Sims 2 requires more RAM than anything. I run the game on my PC and I notice that it must have a memory leak as over time it runs slower and slower and slower. Uses my page file more and more. To play the Sims 2 lag free I would recommend at least a 512MB stick and a 128MB or 256MB, even another 512MB if applicable. This game is one killer hog on resources, reminds me of Star Wars Galaxies. Your video card will make an impact on the Sims 2 but not as much as more ram will.
Edit: I wanted to clarify on this that fixing one problem won't solve your problem entirely. What I mean by that is, if you get a lot more RAM the game is still going to lag bad because of the lack of video power, and if you get the video card it's still going to lag because of the lack of RAM. You're really kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place here since you need both to have a descent gaming experience.
Doom 3 should run great on 512MB ram but it'll eat a 5200FX up and spit it out. I'd do what most said and get the 9800SE and soft mod it to the Pro version.
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uponthis
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26. December 2004 @ 07:41 |
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Let me get this clean, i should get the ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card, not the ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card correct?
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uponthis
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26. December 2004 @ 07:42 |
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i ment "clear".
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ddp
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26. December 2004 @ 08:25 |
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yes as pci not pci/e runs at 32mhz whereas agp 1x is 66mhz, 2x i128 mhz & so on so get agp but also more ram
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Divinus
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26. December 2004 @ 12:23 |
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Honestly I'd get something a bit more powerful than the 9200. Most people here were recommending you get the 9800SE version and you can download a program that will soft mod or overclock it of a sorts to a 9800 Pro version, which is obviously faster.
I'm not sure if they even make the 9800 cards in PCI so you shouldn't have to worry about buying the wrong one. Basically, get an AGP card definitely and that 9800SE is probably your best bet. I'd grab a 512MB stick that runs the same speed as your 256MB stick and then you'll have 768MB which is enough for 95% of games out there. You'll have 768MB RAM and a 9800 Pro video card... You should be set for a while. That combo should play Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 pretty well.
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indienemo
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26. December 2004 @ 13:45 |
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I'd grab a 512MB stick that runs the same speed as your 256MB stick and then you'll have 768MB which is enough for 95% of games out there. You'll have 768MB RAM and a 9800 Pro video card... You should be set for a while. That combo should play Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 pretty well.
yeah thats exactly what ive jsut upgraded from...ran games fine, just needed to do some server stuff which needed more muscle behind it...what i would say is that make sure the 9800SE you buy has 16 pipelines, this is needed to softmod it to the 9800PRO... most have 16 on board, and only 12 active... which the softmod unlocks for you... but some 9800SE's only have 12 on board and 12 active...so you will achieve nothing modding this card.. if you are unsure check the techno babble on the tech spex on the back of the 9800SE you buy. I recommed buying from overclockers.co.uk or ebuyer.com....all theirs have 16 pipelines
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uponthis
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28. December 2004 @ 13:22 |
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ok, will the MSI ATI Radeon 9200se 128 MB AGP 8x Video Card do just fine? Not for sure how many pipelines it has. Just checking with the techno's here.
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uponthis
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29. December 2004 @ 14:50 |
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Ok, i need someone to answer this for me. I'm getting the 9200se(APG) and when i do get this, do i plig it into one of the PCI slots when i go to install it? The brown slot i have, my manual says its a CNR slot. Does this mean i will need a PCI graphics card instead of the APG?
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ddp
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29. December 2004 @ 16:45 |
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if motherboard doesn't have an agp slot than you have to get a pci not pci/e or /x for your board
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uponthis
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29. December 2004 @ 16:49 |
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ddp,
Will you pm me? This kinda confuses me. I want to show you the slots inside my pc. I'm just triing to get this straight because i may have gotten the wrong kind of card that my pc needs.
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indienemo
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30. December 2004 @ 02:06 |
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ffs just tkae a picture of your motherboard with a webcam and post it here , well tell you the rest....
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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ddp
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30. December 2004 @ 05:38 |
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he's got 2 pci slots & a cnr/amr slot, no agp. looks like micro integrated atx board
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uponthis
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30. December 2004 @ 07:54 |
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I got "lucky" and ended up with PCI slots.
Thanks ddp for your help!
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ddp
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30. December 2004 @ 07:57 |
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no problem, teach & learn
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indienemo
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30. December 2004 @ 08:07 |
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over and out.
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
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30. December 2004 @ 08:42 |
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first of all i am into this upgrading stuff
dish out a geforce fx 5500 agp 8x for about $100
and dont get the pentium 4's get the AMD 64 bit 3000+ processor with a NSI motherboard with a nforce 3 or 4 chipset and a 450 watt power supply thats all you need to get a almost state of the art system that you wont have to replace for about 3 or 4 years
how do i know this because fuc**** Intel doesnt or cant make a working version of the 64 bit processor except maybe the server ones
there u go intel officially sucks
go and check out the benchmarks of the pentium 4 3.8 or the 4.0 GHZ EE processors vesrus the amd 64 bit processors youll know what i mean
l8r folks
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indienemo
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2. January 2005 @ 03:03 |
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geforce fx 5500 agp 8x for about $100
Or for about $120 you could effectively get an 9800 PRO...
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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