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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, I have a Tagar AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 1.53 GHz, 224 MB of RAM. My questions are, first, I want to upgrade my memory(RAM) and Im looking at purchasing a 512MB stick from tigerdirect.ca but Im not sure if this kind of memory will be compatible with my system.
The one im looking at is 512MB DDR but how do i tell if I have DDR or SD Ram without opening the CPU?
Also, I want a new video card. And im looking at this
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1020528&sku=V261-3032
how will i tell if i have a PCI slot or the other? (or just how will I see if this video card is compatible with my computer) thanks for your response in advance and im sorry for the length of this document its just im a newbie at upgrading and need a few questions straightened out. Thanks alot.
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ddp
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19. December 2004 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think you'll want to open computer to confirm visually what ram & pci slots you have. if sdram there would be 2 notches on ram & socket, if ddr ram will be 1 notch off center. in the pci slots you should see 1 notch but your new video card has 2 which if i am right is pci/e which won't work with pci so look at an agp slot version instead
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 07:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok so for the video card...this would be the proper one then?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1009368&Sku=E145-5704
matty8887
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19. December 2004 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes if your motherboard supports agp.

Do you know what motherboard you have got?



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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OMG...so nvm about that link i sent you. I didnt realise that there were so many differnt video cards out. lol like i said i am a newbie. so could you please suggest the best agp video card that is out? preferably a ATI or GeForce and 256MB for no more than $150 Canadian? I see ALOT of AGP's 256MB through www.tigerdirect.ca but cant seem to tell which is best
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 07:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol sorry no i dont...do u know how i can tell?
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
O and BTW...the reason I want a 256MB video card is mainly for gaming purposes. So I want a video card that will play any game
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19. December 2004 @ 07:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your board isn't going to have PCI/e so don't worry about that slot.

AGP is smaller and usually the very first bus slot (from the top) on your motherboard. PCI are always white buses and agp are most of the time brown on most motherboards. Albeit I've seen green, red, etc...

It would look like this...

AGP

PCI

PCi

PCI

PCI

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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 07:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok so ur sayin i should go with an AGP?
ddp
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19. December 2004 @ 07:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what is model number on motherboard, either check in manual or on motherboard itself. also check in manual which should tell you what speed your agp(if have) is like 4x or 8x
ddp
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19. December 2004 @ 08:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes
matty8887
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19. December 2004 @ 08:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Having a 128/256 mb memory video card doesnt really effect the games. There is hardly any difference.

I would go for a radeon 9600xt as this will run most games out.



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19. December 2004 @ 08:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, AGP is a faster bus than PCi and it's made for video cards (AGP= Accelerated Graphics Port).

The only thing is eventually you're going to want to upgrade that processor. I have a Radeon 9700 Pro (128MB) and when I had my old Thoroughbred 1800+, it really held back the 9700. For now though, changing your video card and upgrading ram will help you tremendously.

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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok but what is the difference between these?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4500&CatId=880
and
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=699286&CatId=880
and also...im kind of on a budget and dont think i could afford $250 Canadian for just the video card(im 15 years old)
but what I could do would be to forfet getting the 512MB RAM and just get the ATI RADEON u suggested...do u think that is worthwhile? and then just get the 512MB Ram some other time? (my budget is $300 Canadian after taxes)
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19. December 2004 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pci is 33mhz, agp 1x is 66mhz, 2x 2x66, 4x 4x66 & 8x is 8x66mhz. i think you have onboard video as you are missing 32meg in your desription of your computer with 224meg as ram is 256meg

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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 08:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok im probably just gunna go with the ATI RADEON 9600XT Lite ($215 Canadian)
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so i think im clear on the video card part... just now the RAM...
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, now I want to find out if these will work on my computer
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586829&Sku=ULT30215
As long as my motherboard supports DDR i should be fine with those? or is there more I should know?
ddp
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19. December 2004 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
check to see what type of ram you using than start looking, not vice versa as can be disappointing
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, I have a 256MB DDR stick of RAM pre-installed so im assuming that the link I posted will do just fine in my CPU...
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what do u guyz think is better...
AMD Athlon 64's OR Intel Pentium 4's?
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
becuase, yes i will need a new processor
bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol u no what just forget those last two posts i made.
what is the BEST processor out on the market?
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bmxer4lyf
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19. December 2004 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im looking for a 3.2 or higher
 
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